2006 Massage Parlor Reports

**The Nub** · 12-29-06 20:08

Hello,

I'm looking for a nice spa in Alexandria or near by. If you'd be so kind to point me in the right direction.

Shoot me a PM.

Thanks

**Dlrzboy** · 12-29-06 19:06

My spine needed a non-chiropractic realignment to reduce stress, and I noticed that Sakura and Kinja were both open. I tried Sakura, and was provided a session by Maya. If you are offered the same option, suggest you ask if other therapists are available. She was thorough, but overall it was a disappointing experience. IMHO not worth the investment in either time or money. No explicit complaint was made, for either this site or Mamasan. Mamasan was happy to promise better next time. She is nice.

**Sleazebum** · 12-29-06 14:46

Since getting the HJ at a place is just as illegal as getting full service, why should anyone risk geting busted over just a HJ?

Check out the law of the land and see that even allowing Mr Happy to see the light of day in front of a provider is enough to be destroyed over.

IF I am to get busted, it will be during or after getting everything there is to get - and MUCH more than just the HJ!!

Not worth it, not at all!

Just one old, fat, white man's opinion...

JJ

Originally Posted by zoomster

Both Sakura and Kinja were closed the other day, so I decided to check out A-Plus Therapy. It is literally just around the corner from the former home of HWC (RIP). There is a small waiting room with a plush couch to sit on. The place wasn't busy, I think I was the only monger visiting - this was around 11 a.m. An older provider, definitely in her forties, gave a good massage. I don't remember her name, it was something Korean I couldn't pronounce. They charge 50 for a half hour, 70 for an hour (I took the hour). The session ended with the standard firm grip found in any run-of-the-mill NOVA AMP, nothing more. There is no real reason for anyone to go out of the way to visit this place, unless you are in the neighborhood and every other joint is closed.

**Zoomster** · 12-29-06 13:52

Both Sakura and Kinja were closed the other day, so I decided to check out A-Plus Therapy. It is literally just around the corner from the former home of HWC (RIP). There is a small waiting room with a plush couch to sit on. The place wasn't busy, I think I was the only monger visiting - this was around 11 a.m. An older provider, definitely in her forties, gave a good massage. I don't remember her name, it was something Korean I couldn't pronounce. They charge 50 for a half hour, 70 for an hour (I took the hour). The session ended with the standard firm grip found in any run-of-the-mill NOVA AMP, nothing more. There is no real reason for anyone to go out of the way to visit this place, unless you are in the neighborhood and every other joint is closed.

**Zhuxi** · 12-29-06 10:07

Originally Posted by Big Daddy Don

If any of you mongers remember Tiffany from HWC, do you know where she went?

No, but if you find out, please; let me know.

She was wonderful, had her on my birthday, actually.

Zhuxi

**Seva Lurker** · 12-29-06 10:06

The Nub,

Yes, the police could plant cameras in the AMPS, but only with a warrant. Otherwise the evidence could be thrown out. Then the cops would have to find some way to enter the premises, install the cameras and other things.

As to the use of cameras in MPs and other similar places, that is really nothing new. When I lived in Tucson many years ago and the local MPs were raided, one of them had a camera hidden behind a two way mirror in the next room. In another case, I read a story in the paper about a couple visiting a notel motel that played sex videos while you did your thing. They were apparently frequent customers and during a break in their activities watched the film on TV. They thought the premise and couple looked familar and they were right. Seems the motel was filming couples in the rooms and then playing the films back to other customers.

This was before the really small cameras we have today. So just keep in mind that someone is probably watching you on a monitor somewhere.

**Jet Ranger** · 12-29-06 06:26

This is not intended to alarm or discourage anyone from visiting any particular AMP, but in addition to the Commonwealth laws prohibiting bawdy houses and so forth, each county has its own codes regulating massage establishments as well. Below you'll find the Prince William County ordinance in its entirety so you can read and interpret it for yourself.

Note in particular their definition of "sexual parts/erogenous area" in Section 12-3 and see Section 12-17 in particular.

Also note that violations of this code are a Class I misdemeanor.

You'll also note the BS establishments (and therapists) need to go through to get licensed and who can enter a place to search it.

I would assume that if an AMP does not meet these requirements or is unlicensed, it is much easier to make the presumption that it is a "bawdy house."

Finally, even if LE can't prove explicit sexual activity in violation of Section 12-17, the regulators could certainly hassle AMPs that are found not in compliance with these regulations.

If anyone is interested, I also found a copy of the Fairfax County massage code, which I did find prominently on display in an AMP I visited recently. Trusted senior and regular members can PM me for details.

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ARTICLE I. IN GENERAL

Sec. 12-1. Short title.

This chapter may be referred to as the "Massage Establishment Ordinance" of the county. (Code 1965, § 10A-1)

Sec. 12-2. Declaration of findings and policy.

It is hereby declared that the board of county supervisors has found it necessary and proper to exercise its police power for the protection of the health, safety and general welfare of its citizens by providing for the licensing and regulation of massage therapists, massage establishments, and out-call massage services. (Code 1965, § 10A-2; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-3. Definitions.

For the purposes of this chapter, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings respectively ascribed to them by this section:

Approved program shall mean the course of training at an approved school offered to and required to be successfully completed by any person who is permitted to be a massage therapist in the county. The program must consist of at least the following:

(1) Courses pertaining to anatomy, physiology, hygiene, first aid, exercise therapy, massage techniques and related aspects of the art and science.

(2) Five hundred hours of study, which shall be accredited instructional hours pertaining to:

a. Classroom and clinical training in therapeutic massage and reflexology techniques.

b. Classroom or clinical instruction or contraindications for massage.

c. Classroom or clinical or laboratory instruction to develop a knowledge of the anatomy and physiology of the systems of the body, with emphasis on the muscular and skeletal systems.

Approved school shall mean an approved school is a school or institution of learning which requires, as a condition of graduation or certification, the successful completion of an approved program, and which is licensed to do business as a school or educational institution in the state in which it is located. Any school recognized or approved by, or affiliated with, the American Massage Therapy Association, Inc., shall constitute an approved school.

Director shall mean the director of the Prince William County Health District, or his designee.

Massage shall mean a method of treating, for pay, the external parts of the human body for comfort or the general well-being of the body, by rubbing, stroking, kneading, tapping, or vibrating with the hand or any instrument.

Massage establishment shall mean any establishment having a fixed place of business where massages are administered. The term "massage establishment" shall include but shall not be limited to massage parlors, health clubs, sauna baths and, steam baths, and similar type businesses, whether such business is a public or private facility. This definition shall not be construed to include:

(1) A hospital, nursing home, medical clinic or the office of a physician, surgeon, chiropractor, osteopath or physical therapist duly licensed by the state.

(2) Barbershops or beauty salons in which massages are administered only to the scalp, the face, the neck or the shoulders.

(3) A volunteer fire department, a volunteer rescue squad or a nonprofit organization operating a community center, swimming pool, tennis court or other educational, cultural, recreational or athletic facilities and facilities for the welfare of residents in the area.

Massage therapist shall mean any individual who administers a massage to another individual at a massage establishment or as part of an out-call massage service for pay and who has successfully completed an approved program at, or has been certified by, an approved school of massage. This definition shall not be construed to include a physician, surgeon, chiropractor, osteopath, physical therapist or nurse duly licensed by the state.

Out-call massage service shall mean any business which provides, engages in or carries on massages at a location designated by the customer, client, massage therapist, or other person, which location is other than at a massage establishment as defined herein.

Sexual or genital parts shall include the pubic area, penis, scrotum, vulva, perineum, anus, or female breasts.

(Code 1965, § 10A-5; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89; Ord. No. 93-24, 6-1-93)

Sec. 12-4. Violations of chapter.

Any person violating any provision of this chapter shall be guilty of a Class 1
misdemeanor. (Code 1965, § 10A-3)

Sec. 12-5. Right of entry to enforce chapter.

The director of health, the director of the fire and rescue service, the chief of police, the zoning administrator and the building official, or their duly authorized agents, are hereby authorized to enter, examine and survey, during business hours, any premises in the county for which a massage establishment permit has been issued pursuant to this chapter, for the purpose of enforcing the provisions of this chapter and for no other
official purposes. This section shall not restrict or limit the right of entry vested in any law enforcement agency. (Code 1965, § 10A-16.1)

Sec. 12-6. Revocation or suspension of permits issued under chapter.

(a) Any massage establishment permit or massage therapist's permit granted under this chapter shall be revoked by the director, after notice and hearing, if the permittee (if the permittee is a partnership or association, any partner or member thereof, or if the permittee is a corporation, any officer, director or shareholder owning ten percent or more of its capital stock):

(1) Has been convicted, pleaded nolo contendere or suffered a forfeiture on a charge of violating any provision of Code of Virginia, §§ 18.2-346--18.2-349, 18.2-355--18.2-361, 18.2-368 or 18.2-370, which laws relate to sexual offenses, or any provision of a similar ordinance of the county or law or ordinance of another jurisdiction.

(2) Has been convicted, pleaded nolo contendere or suffered a forfeiture on a charge of violating any provision of this chapter relating to massage establishments, or on a charge of violating a similar law in any other jurisdiction.

(3) Has made a false statement on the application for the permit.

(4) Has failed to make the report required by section 12-10.

Notice of the hearing before the director for revocation of the permit shall be given in writing, setting forth the grounds of the complaint and the time and place of hearing. Such notice shall be mailed, by certified mail, to the permittee's last known address, at least ten days prior to the date set for the hearing.

(b) If the director finds that a massage establishment for which a massage establishment permit has been issued under this chapter does not conform to the standards set forth in this chapter, or that the permittee has refused the director or other authorized person the right to enter the premises to enforce the provisions of this chapter, the director may enter an order for the immediate suspension of the massage establishment permit until such time as he finds that the reason for such suspension no longer exists. The order shall set forth the reasons for the suspension. A copy of the order shall be sent to the permittee at his place of business by certified mail. The permittee shall be afforded an opportunity to be heard by the director within 12 days after the suspension. Notice of the hearing shall be mailed, by certified mail to the permittee's business address, at least ten days prior to the date set for the hearing. No person shall operate a massage establishment when subject to an order of suspension. (Code 1965, § 10a-5; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-7. Compliance with zoning ordinance and building code.

Massage establishments shall be located in a proper zoning district, as specified in Chapter 32 of this Code. Each such establishment and its facilities shall be in conformity with all applicable requirements of the building code adopted by section 5-16 of this Code. (Code 1965, § 10A-14)

Sec. 12-8. Entrance sign.

A recognizable and legible sign shall be posted at the main entrance of each massage establishment identifying the premises as a massage establishment. Any sign comply with the requirements of Chapter 32 of this Code. (Code 1965, § 10A-14)

Sec. 12-9. Display of copy of chapter.

A copy of this chapter shall be displayed in a conspicuous place in every massage establishment, so that it may be readily seen and read by persons entering the premises and employees of the establishment. (Code 1965, § 10A-16)

Sec. 12-10. Information to be reported to director.

(a) Each person to whom a massage establishment permit is issued under article II of this chapter shall report to the director any change in any of the information required by section 12-32, such report to be made within 14 days of learning of the change.

(b) Each holder of a massage therapist's permit issued under Article III of this chapter shall report to the director any change in any of the information required in section 12-52, such report to be made within 14 days of learning of the change. (Code 1965, §§ 10A-8, 10A-11; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)
Sec. 12-11. Requirements for massage establishments.

(a) Minimum lighting shall be provided in accordance with the Uniform Building Code.

(b) Minimum ventilation shall be provided in accordance with the Uniform Building Code.

(c) Adequate equipment for disinfecting and sterilizing any instruments used for massage shall be provided.

(d) Hot and cold running water shall be provided.

(e) Adequate separate dressing, bathing, and toilet facilities shall be provided for patrons. The facilities for one gender shall be segregated from those for the other.

(f) Walls, ceilings, floors, steam rooms, and all other physical facilities for the
establishment shall be kept in good repair and maintained in a sanitary condition.

(g) Clean towels and linens shall be provided for patrons receiving massage services. No common use of towels or linens shall be permitted. (Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Editor's note: Former §§ 12-11--12-14 were repealed by Ord. No. 89-64, enacted May 2, 1989, which ordinance also enacted a new § 12-11 as hereinabove set forth. The repealed provisions pertained to sanitation, maintenance and massage technicians working only at licensed establishments and derived from §§ 10A-14, 10A-15 and 10A-17 of the 1965 Code.

Secs. 12-12--12-14. Reserved.

Note: See the editor's note following § 12-11.

Sec. 12-15. Cleanliness of therapists.

Every massage therapist shall cleanse his or her hands thoroughly with soap and hot running water immediately before serving each patron. (Code 1965, § 10A-15; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-16. Serving persons with skin inflammation or eruptions.

No massage establishment shall serve any patron when the skin of the patron is inflamed or erupted, unless the patron submits a certificate, from a duly licensed physician, to the director of health stating that such inflammation or eruption is not communicable. (Code 1965, § 10A-15)

Sec. 12-17. Massaging, exposing, etc. erogenous areas.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person in a massage establishment to place his or her hands upon, to touch with any part of his or her body, to fondle in any manner, or to massage an erogenous area of any other person.

(b) It shall be unlawful for any person in a massage establishment to expose his or her erogenous area, or any portion thereof, to any other person. It shall also be unlawful for any person in a massage establishment to expose the erogenous area, or any portion thereof, of any other person.

(c) It shall be unlawful for any person, while in the presence of any other person in a massage establishment, to fail to conceal, with a fully opaque covering, the erogenous area of his or her body.

(d) It shall be unlawful for any person owning, operating or managing a massage establishment to knowingly cause, allow or permit, in or about such massage establishment, any agent, employee or any other person under his control or supervision to perform any act prohibited by this section. (Code 1965, § 10A-17)

Secs. 12-18--12-30. Reserved.

Editor's note: Former § 12-18, which pertained to massage services to persons of the opposite sex, was repealed by Ord. No. 89-64, enacted May 2, 1989. The repealed provisions derived from § 10A-17 of the 1965 Code.

ARTICLE II. ESTABLISHMENT PERMIT

Sec. 12-31. Required.

It shall be unlawful for any person to own, operate or conduct a massage establishment without a valid, nonsuspended permit issued pursuant to this article for such establishment. (Code 1965, §§ 10A-6, 10A-17)

Sec. 12-32. Application.

(a) Each application for a massage establishment permit required by this article shall be upon a form provided by the director and shall be submitted to the director. Each such application shall contain the following information:

(1) A description of the facilities and services to be available on the premises of the proposed establishment.

(2) The location and mailing address of the establishment.

(3) The name and residential address of the applicant. If the applicant is an association or a partnership, the names and residence addresses of each of the associates or partners. If the applicant is a corporation, the names and residence addresses of each of the officers and directors of such corporation, and of each stockholder owning more than ten percent of the stock of the corporation. If one or more of the stockholders owning more than ten
percent of the applicant corporation is itself a corporation, thenames and residence addresses of each of the officers and directors of such corporation and of each stockholder owning more than ten percent of the stock of the corporation.

(4) If the applicant is an individual, all other addresses of the applicant for the three-year period immediately prior to the application. If the applicant is an association or a partnership, the names and addresses of each associate partner for the three-year period immediately prior to the application. If the applicant is a corporation, all of the addresses for a three-year period of each of the officers and directors of such corporation and of each stockholder owning more than ten percent of the stock of the corporation.

(5) If the applicant is an individual, the birthdate of the applicant. If the applicant is a partnership, the birthdate of each partner. If the applicant is a corporation, the birthdate of each of the officers and directors of such corporation and of each stockholder owning more than ten percent of the stock of the corporation.

(6) If the applicant is an individual, a complete set of the applicant's fingerprints. If the applicant is an association or partnership, a complete set of each associate's or partner's fingerprints. If the applicant is a corporation, a complete set of fingerprints of each of the officers and directors of the corporation and each stockholder owning more than ten percent of the stock of the corporation. The fingerprints shall be taken by the chief of police or his agent.

(7) If the applicant is an individual, the business, occupation or employment of the applicant for the three-year period immediately preceding the date of the application. If the applicant is an association or partnership, the business, occupation or employment of each associate or partner for the three-year period immediately prior to the date of the application. If the applicant is a corporation, the business occupation or employment of each officer or director and each of the stockholders owning more than ten percent of the
stock of the applicant corporation.

(8) The history of the applicant in the operation of massage establishments or a similar business or occupation, including, but not limited to, whether or not such person, in previously operating in this county or another county, city or state under a permit or license, has had such permit or license revoked or suspended and the reason therefor, and the business activity or occupation subsequent to such action of suspension or revocation.

(9) The criminal record, if any, other than misdemeanor traffic violations or traffic infractions, of the applicant. If the applicant is an association or partnership, the criminal record of each associate or partner. If the applicant is a corporation, the criminal record of each officer or director of the corporation and each of the stockholders owning more than ten percent of the stock of the applicant corporation

(10) The name of the operator or manager of the massage establishment. If the operator or manager of the massage establishment is not an applicant, then the operator or manager must provide the information required in this section relative to the applicant.

(b) Each application for a massage establishment permit shall be accompanied by an investigation fee of $65.00, no part of which shall be refundable. Such fee shall be in addition to any permit fee required by this article and any business license tax imposed by the county. (Code 1965, §§ 10A-6, 10A-8; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-33. Inspection of applicant's premises, etc.

Upon receipt of an application for a permit under this article, the director shall refer the application to the building official, the director of the fire and rescue service, the chief of police and the zoning administrator, each of whom, within a period of 21 days from the date of the application, shall review records and make an inspection of the premises proposed to be used as a massage establishment and shall make a written report to the director concerning compliance with the law. (Code 1965, § 10A-6; No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-34. Fee.

The annual fee for a massage establishment permit shall be $10.00, which fee shall be paid prior to the issuance or renewal of the permit. Such fee shall be in addition to any business license tax imposed by the county. (Code 1965, § 10A-7; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-35. Issuance or denial.

A massage establishment permit shall be issued by the director when all provisions of this article have been complied with, if he determines, from the inspections and reports provided for in section 12-33 and from the information contained in the permit application, that the establishment meets the requirements of this chapter and that the applicant is qualified under the requirements of this chapter to engage in such business in the county. Such permit shall be denied, if the director finds any condition to exist that would be grounds for the revocation of a permit under section 12-6. (Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89; Ord. No. 90-140, 11-13-90)

Sec. 12-36. Term.

A permit issued under this article shall be valid for one year from the date of issuance, unless sooner suspended or revoked pursuant to section 12-6. (Code 1965, § 10A-7)

Sec. 12-37. Display.

Every person to whom a massage establishment permit is issued shall display such permit in a conspicuous place in the massage establishment, so that it may be readily seen by persons entering the premises. (Code 1965, § 10A-16)

Sec. 12-38. Transfer.

(a) No permit issued under this article shall be transferable from one person to another.

(b) A change of location of a massage establishment may be approved by the director and the establishment's permit transferred to the new location, provided all applicable provisions of this Code, including this chapter, are complied with. (Code 1965, §§ 10A-12, 10A-13; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Secs. 12-39--12-50. Reserved.

ARTICLE III. MASSAGE THERAPIST'S PERMIT

Sec. 12-51. Required.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to administer a massage in a massage
establishment or as part of an out-call massage service, unless he or she has a valid unsuspended massage therapist's permit issued pursuant to this article or has been specifically exempted from the definition of "massage therapist" in section 12-3 of this chapter.

(b) It shall be unlawful for the owner, operator or manager of any massage
establishment to permit any person who does not have the permit required by this section to administer any massage in such establishment. (Code 1965, §§ 10A-9, 10A-17; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-52. Application.

Each application for a massage therapist permit shall be upon a form provided by the director and shall be submitted to the director. Each such application shall contain the following information:

(1) The applicant's full name, residential address, and telephone number.

(2) The name and address of the massage establishment where the applicant is to be employed and the name of the owner of same.

(3) The names and addresses of any and all previous massage establishments where the applicant has been employed as a massage therapist.

(4) The criminal record, if any, other than a misdemeanor traffic violation or traffic infraction, of the applicant.

(5) Whether any permit to perform as a massage therapist has previously been denied or the application revoked and, if so, the circumstances of such denial or revocation.

(6) A complete set of the applicant's fingerprints which shall be taken by the chief of police or his agent.

(7) Written proof that the applicant is 18 years of age or older. (Code 1965, § 10A-11; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-53. Applicant's qualifications, generally.

Each applicant for a massage therapist's permit must be at least 18 years of age and must have satisfactorily completed a course or courses of study in body massage in an approved school of instruction or training. (Code 1965, §§ 10A-9.1, 10A-11.1; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-54. Applicant's health certificate.

Each applicant for a permit under this article must obtain from the director a health certificate within the 12 months preceding the application for a massage therapist's permit. Such certificate shall be issued upon such conditions as the director may deem reasonable and proper to accomplish the purposes of this chapter and to protect the health of patrons and other persons in massage establishments. (Code 1965, § 10A-10; Ord. No.
89-64, 5-2-89)

Cross references: Health certificates generally, Ch. 10
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Sec. 12-55. Investigation of applicant's criminal record.

Upon receipt of an application for a permit under this article, the director shall request that the chief of police make, or cause to be made, a thorough investigation of the criminal record of the applicant. (Code 1965, § 10A-11.1; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-56. Fee.

The annual fee for a massage therapist's permit shall be $15.00, which fee shall be paid prior to the issuance or renewal of the permit. Such fee shall be in addition to any business or occupation license tax imposed by the county, and any other fees which may be required to engage in the business. (Code 1965, § 10A-10; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-57. Issuance or denial.

(a) A massage therapist's permit shall be issued by the director, if the applicant has paid the fee and meets the qualifications prescribed by this article; provided, however, that the director shall deny any application for a massage therapist's permit, after notice and hearing, if the director finds that any condition exists that would constitute grounds for revocation of such a permit under section 12-6.

(b) The director shall act upon the application for a massage therapist's permit within 60 days from the date of the application. Notice of the hearing before the director for denial of the application shall be given in writing, setting forth the grounds for the denial and the time and place of the hearing. Such notice shall be mailed, by certified mail, to the applicant's last known address, at least ten days prior to the date set for such hearing. (Code 1965, § 10A-11.1; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-58. Not transferable.

No massage therapist's permit shall be transferable from one person to another. (Code 1965, § 10A-12; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-59. Display.

Every person to whom a massage therapist's permit has been granted shall, while in a massage establishment, display such permit in a conspicuous place in the massage establishment. (Code 1965, § 10A-16; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

Sec. 12-60. Term.

A massage therapist's permit shall be valid for one year from the date of issuance, unless sooner suspended or revoked. Within one month before the expiration date, the holder of a massage therapist's permit may make application for a new permit as provided in this chapter; provided, however, that applicants whose fingerprints are currently on file with the director shall not be required to provide fingerprints when applying for a new permit. (Code 1965, § 10A-10; Ord. No. 89-64, 5-2-89)

**The Nub** · 12-28-06 23:08

Originally Posted by Superman06

Check out the Chicago Massage Forum. It seems web cameras were discovered at a popular AMP there. Heres a link to the news story.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...ohns27.article

I guess I'm going to have to start wearing a ski mask to sessions so that I won't be reconized.

Is it possible that LE would plant cameras in Massage parlors to keep tabs on them? Would LE even consider doing this? If so, isn't this imvasion of privacy or unconstitutional?

**Fatpig** · 12-28-06 20:28

Originally Posted by Sushi Boy

I had my second visit to AO with Susan. Standard rub and tug. She went topless, but would not take her pants off. Nothing else special about it to report.

Same here. no top off just enough to show some goods. she is very good at massage though. Sheriffs frequent there alot. So they are very scared/careful. Either way try to get Jenny to give acupuncture. She is the real deal and is qualified. She actually belongs in a high rate place.

**Big Daddy Don** · 12-28-06 16:50

If any of you mongers remember Tiffany from HWC, do you know where she went?

**The Nub** · 12-28-06 16:40

Originally Posted by Saiyen

I believe as long as it is not money for sex. Hence all the disclosures in escort posting like "Money/donation is provided for time only..blah..blah..blah.." Like you said if you pay for time and then she jumps you well lucky you.

But if they try to get you stay what you want for money like BJ, FS etc I would be cautious cause it sounds like LE. The girls know to use more discretion than that for there safety & yours. Use TER for reviews before you go with a provider. I'm weary of only 1 or 2 reviews. Try to go with someone who is well reviewed for a while.

This is the best piece of advise on this page. And yes, definetely check TER for reviews, it can save you a lot of trouble and prevent you from being scammed!

**Sushi Boy** · 12-28-06 09:54

I had my second visit to AO with Susan. Standard rub and tug. She went topless, but would not take her pants off. Nothing else special about it to report.

**Superman06** · 12-27-06 21:08

Check out the Chicago Massage Forum. It seems web cameras were discovered at a popular AMP there. Heres a link to the news story.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...ohns27.article

I guess I'm going to have to start wearing a ski mask to sessions so that I won't be reconized.

**Fatpig** · 12-27-06 20:37

Originally Posted by A John

Give me my driving citation, or read me my rights and let me make a phone call.

Happy Hunting

AJ

Say nothing and they will do nothing. Worse case they bring you in and still you say NOTHING. Get a lawyer. Sure you will have some explaining at home but there will be no legal action as long as you do not talk.