Relationships with Massage Providers

**TwistedBrother** · 10-23-07 20:54

Originally Posted by Wando21

Don't you all think after several years in the biz amp girls are incapable of a normal, typical relationship for obvious reasons.....?

"Incapable," no ... "with great difficulty," probably ... lol

**Toshiosamma** · 10-23-07 20:46

Hey, SH. Good to see you here, bro. We need to get together in Flushing sometime.

I was going to stay out of this, but.

I've been with an AMP woman for 2 and a half years, and I do not regret a minute of it. She is a tough, awesome, inspiring human being. Unlike most girls I have known in this business, she is totally reliable, and gives unselfishly of herself to help the few people who she considers her true friends.

Most girls in this business will grab you by the cock and the wallet and take you for a ride until you are no longer useful. I had that happen to me a once or twice, and I've had many other girls try unsuccessfully to use me that way, so when I met this woman I had my guard up and my eyes wide open. Her behavior toward me has always been completely different. She acts the act with customers to make a buck, but with me she is scrupulously and sometimes brutally honest. She is my best friend, and has taught me more about myself and life and the world than I ever thought I could learn in such a short time. She never takes unfair advantage of the fact that I love her. She also happens to be dynamite in the sack.

This did not happen overnight. This woman had suffered badly at the hands of two abusive liars who she loved dearly, and was not in a hurry to get involved with anyone again. It took me a long time and a lot of patience, but it has been well worth it.

I really don't give a shit whether the skeptics among you believe me or not, because my woman and I will be quietly enjoying each other's company for a long, long time after I've forgotten the "hobby" and this website and the gentlemen and sleazeballs alike who contribute to it.

Have a nice day, and keep your mind as open as you keep your eyes.

**Member #3925** · 10-23-07 20:15

Originally Posted by Wando21

Interesting subject. With "eyes wide shut" I started a crazed relationship with an amp provider in about 2005, and we have now evolved to an occasional but fairly regular weekend of fun( one could say, f--kbuddies, but it's a little more than that). Started out with high hopes of a real relationship to no avail, but I suspect most of that potential has been beaten out of most amp ladies. Frankly, I think they lose their interest in sex after a while, like almost all other women too. I appreciate her now for what she can give, which is fabulous sex and a crazy, Korean sense of humor. And, I love Korean barbacue. Don't you all think after several years in the biz amp girls are incapable of a normal, typical relationship for obvious reasons.....?

Beaten out of AMP ladies?I see your point and understand why you might think that but you are out and about with this girl.But after this much time(2005) your more than likely right.If it hasn't gone any further.

Do they lose interest in sex?(Or just having it with you or me) Sure, just like any other woman.I have been with mine in the past as a customer and now as her man.It is 2 different worlds.It is a much differant experience than meeting for the first time and going through the assembly line.And you know that also from your girl.Please don't even tell me it's the same routine.

They are with someone who they at least give a half a shit about.

What is a normal,typical relationship?

By being a member of this site and posting you know you have proven yourself to see things from a differant perspective.Not exactly normal.You wouldn't want your friends and family to know?

Not a judgement of you. Just look at my other posts.

Take your time with her for what it is.If it doesn't go any further just enjoy your f~~k buddy for who she is and have a good time.And of course eat as much of that BBQ as you can hold.As long as she is paying.

**Member #3925** · 10-23-07 18:44

Originally Posted by Sarang Haeyo

That's how much I paid in house fees and tips before I started getting it for free outside the AMP. Mine won't let me visit her at work any more and hasn't for a long time.

Three years later and I must say my initial investment; plus consequent deposits (ie. Attorney fee); has paid ENORMOUS dividends.

Much less expensive than my first wife.

Ah, the memories. Saw mine 4 times as a paying customer over a period of 5 weeks. CT. Stores and she had just got here from Korea. Nice girl. Nothing special but we hit it off on a personal level. She was sweet but I had been around the block as far as AMP girls go for a couple of years. I knew the talk and all the bullshit.

During our last session in CT. She asked for my number. She said she was going somewhere else and wanted to stay in touch.

Little did I know she was going to D. C. She called 1 week later and said she wanted to see her 'Namjachingu'. Told her I'm not driving all the way there and spending a bunch of money. So she worked out a deal with Mamasan. Nothing to her just an inflated fee to the house. See my posts in the D. C. Massage Parlor Reports. The things we do for poon.

During our first visit she made me wait for like 2 hours while she took care of business. I was fairly pissed and way tired. Told her if she wanted me to come back she would have to meet me as soon as I called. First time was still pretty much a feeling out process. Does this girl really like me or does she just have something up her sleeve? I felt like we had some fucked up connection but I was very hesitant. Also told her if I ever came back I didn't want to see her in her work outfit. And no make up. Just her.

2 more road trips over the next 3 months and as soon as Mama saw me she would call her name. She came right out both times in a pair of jeans and a t-shirt. No make up with her hair pulled back.

During this time we would talk on the phone on a regular basis and learn all the stuff you do during an otherwise normal relationship. Whatever that is.

On our last visit I told her if she really wanted to see me and really felt something for me we would have to see each other outside. She says she is going on vacation in 1 week. Gives me her address. Had a great week with an awesome lady that just happens to have a shitty job. Depending on how you look at it.

I told her I refused to see her in the work environment after that. She took off for the entire next month and we spent alot of time together. Just getting to know one another and hanging out.

It turned into 1 week out of the month or the occasional 1 month vacation that she usually came here or sometimes we spent it in the city.

That went on for about 2 years. Followed by 2+ years of nuptial bliss.

Except for when Jack gets a hold of her.

**Member #3925** · 10-23-07 17:02

You know Jack, I actually thank you for putting in a good word with your friends about my wife. Thanks for paying my rent, phone (s), cable bills, etc.

The cigarette I'm smoking and the lunch I just ate. The clothes I'm wearing. And the funniest thing. The computer I'm using right now.

You paid for all of it. Not me.

I wasn't looking for a relationship (at the time-married 15 years) it just happened. I was just paying for an anonymous piece of ass and how it turned into what it did might seem confusing to somebody who hasn't been there.

But it happened and it will again with other dudes.

Some will get completely burned and taken for the ride of their lives. Others will live long happy lives and grow old together.

Just like with any other couple.

The reason we get so 'defensive' in our posts is because we worry about them having to deal with guys like you.

Yes. We know what they do for work. Where did we meet them?

You very well may have been with mine and that doesn't bother me other than the fact that you appear to have some issues.

Yes. You might have PAID her the night before for her body. But if you happened to see us the next day walking down the street you wouldn't even know it was her. Make up, hair, clothes. Etc. And that is just how she wants it in public. And if she recognized you she wouldn't say so or acknowledge your presence. And we would more than likely be on the way to the market to spend your money.

Thanks again.

Although this might appear to be all about the money for me it is much more than that. It is what you have turned the thread into. So I reply accordingly. With the truth.

No. Don't go to an AMP looking for love. Bad idea. You go there to get off. I still occasionally do. I'm a man with a habit that's hard to break. But people have started relationships under stranger circimstances. Shit happens. Also when I do go it's when the S. O. Is away for a period of time and I need that fix.

The best part is a pay with other mongers money.

In the case of Sarang (I'm not outing him. He has posted he is married to an AMP girl) and myself these women are not our 'Make believe girlfriends'. They are our wives. They are beautiful and intelligent women with great personalities and big hearts.

You might get her body. I get that plus everything else. Including your hard earned dollars.

**Sarang Haeyo** · 10-23-07 15:41

I had 30 years of "normal, typical relationships" with civilians.

I'll take this over that any day. The K-sense of humor and the BBQ plus other things make up for whatever "normalcy" might be missing.

When we're together we're like any other couple. We do "couple things" like everyone else. Very normal.

**Wando21** · 10-23-07 15:32

Interesting subject. With "eyes wide shut" I started a crazed relationship with an amp provider in about 2005, and we have now evolved to an occasional but fairly regular weekend of fun( one could say, f--kbuddies, but it's a little more than that). Started out with high hopes of a real relationship to no avail, but I suspect most of that potential has been beaten out of most amp ladies. Frankly, I think they lose their interest in sex after a while, like almost all other women too. I appreciate her now for what she can give, which is fabulous sex and a crazy, Korean sense of humor. And, I love Korean barbacue. Don't you all think after several years in the biz amp girls are incapable of a normal, typical relationship for obvious reasons.....?

**Spinnerluvr** · 10-23-07 14:55

Originally Posted by Sarang Haeyo

Much less expensive than my first wife.

Yet all is not said and done and YO pimp daddy, your married to a working HO

WTF

**Sarang Haeyo** · 10-23-07 14:50

That's how much I paid in house fees and tips before I started getting it for free outside the AMP. Mine won't let me visit her at work any more and hasn't for a long time.

Three years later and I must say my initial investment; plus consequent deposits ( ie. attorney fee); has paid ENORMOUS dividends.

Much less expensive than my first wife.

**TwistedBrother** · 10-23-07 14:28

Original thread starter back here ... Goodness, you guys are getting feisty without me!

Well, if I'm going to be honest, I'm going to have to say mixed results lately.

First, want to thank Sarang and others who've been helpful. I've also gotten some help from a few guys in Mich. who know the particular girl I was most interested in. They weren't completely discouraging, but realistic, too. And, at least with this particular girl, hasn't quite worked out as I'd hoped. There's been a point where I've had to look at the $ I was spending and the progress I was making (not enough) and had to back off a bit. But who knows what will happen from here. My penchant for variety kicked in the other week, and after a 2-3 week break from the hobby, I went to another place and got a girl who had been mediocre when I saw her 3-4 months ago. She remembered me this time and was much better ... but not necessarily LT material or anything.

Anyway, despite my relative lack of success, I remain a glass half-full person. That's who I am and that ain't changin. Personally, I'm also someone who has wavered between hobbying and trying more conventional ways of having female companionship and relationships and right now, I have at least one possibility with someone I work with. So putting more energy into that right now.

But again, I thank all who have responded, especially positively, and, for now, continue to stay at least partly in the game.

**Sarang Haeyo** · 10-23-07 14:01

Yup, I got my usual "favorite customer" discount from my favorite waitress who looks a lot like Sandy from Nirvana and Avalon in CT, minus the fake boobs of course.

Sorry bro', can't have you mingling with my wife. You know the situation.

You and me and the other guys though anytime.

**PW Junior** · 10-23-07 13:45

Originally Posted by Sarang Haeyo

It's a lovely sentiment you're espousing but as the title of my last post suggests: we're dealing with an in-bred, backwoods, 19th century hillbilly here.

Speaking of JJG, had a delicious bowl last week in Flushing with the missus and dozens of her countrymen/women. As per usual, I was the only Caucasian in the place. Unless of course you count the busboys.

We'll have to all get together some time. That is if we can pull HJ from his new position.

Thanks Sarang, but you're still not off the hook for getting JJM without me. I'll be really pissed if you went to Sam Won Gahk to have it.

Anyway, I think this is like the third time that I've seen this topic discussed in these forums. It annoys me to no end when people just overgeneralize and make these girls out to be these money hungry bitches that will ruin your life if you get involved with them. They are people too and deserve some respect. I guess I just feel the need to defend some of my sisters or something. Too much damn negativity.

To HowRich, you really seem to know your way around Flushing. Impressive. I think In Spa sucks though. King Spa is a lot better in my opinion, but definitely less convenient since it's in Jersey.

**Sarang Haeyo** · 10-23-07 13:13

It's a lovely sentiment you're espousing but as the title of my last post suggests: we're dealing with an in-bred, backwoods, 19th century hillbilly here.

Speaking of JJG, had a delicious bowl last week in Flushing with the missus and dozens of her countrymen/women. As per usual, I was the only Caucasian in the place. Unless of course you count the busboys.

We'll have to all get together some time. That is if we can pull HJ from his new position.

**PW Junior** · 10-23-07 13:02

Sarang, if you go and have Jjajangmyun with HowRich without me, then damn! I'm going to have to lay a smackdown on somebody! Some Kyo Chon Chicken doesn't sound too bad either.

I guess I'll 'chime in on this thread' since it seems to be getting interesting.

Jack, if two people get together and they are happy, then who are you to judge them? No matter what the situation may be, this country was built on 'the pursuit of happiness' so let people be. You are making overgeneralizations and just assuming things are a certain way. Of course you'll have some girls that just try and use guys to get what they need, but on the other hand, you'll have some girls that genuine and are with someone because they want to be.

Too much cynicism man. I see the glass as half full, not half empty. Think about that.

**Sarang Haeyo** · 10-23-07 10:09

Originally Posted by Jack Meoff2

You guys are so funny and get so defensive over your make believe Korean AMP girlfriends.

To the guy who paid for the girls immigration paper fee's, how much does/did she make SELLING her services?

And to the the guy implying i cant get an AMP girl. SURE I CAN!

Even YOUR AMP girl, for the house fee plus tip.

I think i am indeed fighting a loosing argument. Its why there are so few who chime in on this thread.

Stupid is as stupid does-Forrest Gump

Happy Hunting

Jack

Arguing with a guy who quotes Forrest Gump? I knew I was wasting my time.