Legal Questions

[DonkeyKwan87]

They don't need to witness the act to get in trouble. Also, if you use a burner phone and not "you're" personal one should be fine.

Read up on the Bellevue shakedown in Wash state. Or google "The loeg seattle".

Oh than I am definitely screwed since I use my personal phone.

[Jedi69]

The League of Extraordinary Retards.

LOL.

[HapaBoy86]

Been an avid kgirl user for the last two years. Unfortunately I keep deleting my account in hopes I can get over my habit but I can't. I have a question.

If LE somehow gets the phone number from a provider which is linked to the agency. What ramifications will it be for us mongers? They will see I have texted requesting for a girl, a time, and questions like "msog?

I understand they need to witness the act in order to fully press charges but I am just curious due to the patriots owner who wasn't actually caught but they have video surveillance. Can they hastle me for the text between me and an agency? They want have pics of me entering and leaving. I know I can say "I just wanted to talk" but how would I explain "msog?

Thanks for the help fellas.

Google "The loeg seattle ".

[HapaBoy86]

Been an avid kgirl user for the last two years. Unfortunately I keep deleting my account in hopes I can get over my habit but I can't. I have a question.

If LE somehow gets the phone number from a provider which is linked to the agency. What ramifications will it be for us mongers? They will see I have texted requesting for a girl, a time, and questions like "msog?

I understand they need to witness the act in order to fully press charges but I am just curious due to the patriots owner who wasn't actually caught but they have video surveillance. Can they hastle me for the text between me and an agency? They want have pics of me entering and leaving. I know I can say "I just wanted to talk" but how would I explain "msog?

Thanks for the help fellas.

They don't need to witness the act to get in trouble. Also, if you use a burner phone and not "you're" personal one should be fine.

Read up on the Bellevue shakedown in Wash state. Or google "The loeg seattle".

[DonkeyKwan87]

Been an avid kgirl user for the last two years. Unfortunately I keep deleting my account in hopes I can get over my habit but I can't. I have a question.

If LE somehow gets the phone number from a provider which is linked to the agency. What ramifications will it be for us mongers? They will see I have texted requesting for a girl, a time, and questions like "msog?

I understand they need to witness the act in order to fully press charges but I am just curious due to the patriots owner who wasn't actually caught but they have video surveillance. Can they hastle me for the text between me and an agency? They want have pics of me entering and leaving. I know I can say "I just wanted to talk" but how would I explain "msog?

Thanks for the help fellas.

[Christophe1]

If I arrange a car date with a provider online or over text and drive to a quiet secluded area away from prying eyes. But somehow the cops DO happen upon us mid act. Will they ticket us for having sex in public or try to get us for prostitution? I'd have a hard time believing they'd have the evidence needed to get us for hooking, but not sure how that works.

Asking because I may starting doing car dates on the regular. And to be clear I never, ever, deal with streetwalkers. These are escort girls making an exception and meeting me at my car. Thanks.

Lewd acts. In LA everything is costing too much. If you get caught in coitus it will cost you slightly under $1000. If you get charged with a misdemeanor charge of sex with an escort (never mind). You got caught with your bare never seen by sun butt humping in the air. My guess is that it is going to be about the same. You got caught. Your primary concern should be if you have any position that will be compromised by acts of moral turpitude.

You can still get away with things but play it more careful to maintain your life and style.

[Member #5596]

That's what you say. The problem is that the cops will write in their report that they observed the female fellating your organ. They don't care about lying, because they assume that a judge and / or a jury is going to believe them because they are cops. A good lawyer can bargain it down to a solicitation charge that won't require you to register as a sex offender. The fine is expensive, the penalty assessment cost is even worse, and you might have to take an HIV class. You definitely need a lawyer.

If I arrange a car date with a provider online or over text and drive to a quiet secluded area away from prying eyes. But somehow the cops DO happen upon us mid act. Will they ticket us for having sex in public or try to get us for prostitution? I'd have a hard time believing they'd have the evidence needed to get us for hooking, but not sure how that works.

Asking because I may starting doing car dates on the regular. And to be clear I never, ever, deal with streetwalkers. These are escort girls making an exception and meeting me at my car. Thanks.

[Bronsonator]

Any information you provide can and will be used against you. They arent pulling you over because they want to be your friend.

If they plan on arresting you, talking will not get you out of it and talking will only make it worse.

This!!

I know cops aren't always the brightest, but generally they are not stupid either. They are pretty good at what they are doing. They have very good bullshit-detectors. They spend years reading and judging people. Agree with Akara. Be polite, be civil, and only answer questions by asking, "Am I being detained?" If the answer is "no," say, "Thank you" and leave. If the answer is "yes," then you do have to identify yourself if requested, but that is all you have to do. You do not have to say or admit to anything else.

[Akara]

Any information you provide can and will be used against you. They arent pulling you over because they want to be your friend.

If they plan on arresting you, talking will not get you out of it and talking will only make it worse.

[BuddhaHead]

If LE observes an individual leaving a suspected AMP, is there any legal concern for that individual? Would LE use that individual's license plate to try to identify the individual if the AMP is under investigation?

That is not a tactic that LE uses if they want to bust an AMP, as it really doesn't yield any usable "evidence", since they don't know and have no evidence of any illegal activities just from observing people going in and out of an AMP. They either have to setup a sting to catch johns for solicitation, or pose as customers, or break in to an AMP and catch them in the act. Another common tactic is to check if all workers have legitimate massage licenses, but that is just a business violation, not a criminal act. Usually, they don't investigate an AMP unless they get complaints (usually from neighboring businesses) about the alleged activity going on. I have never heard of anyone get arrested for being observed going in and out of an AMP, because that in itself, is not illegal. You can probably search news in the area where your AMPs are located and find out about any busts, since the news will usually publicize such events. You will see it's very rare that customers get busted due to the circumstances described above. Unless the masseuses or customers admit to performing an illegal activity, then there is insufficient evidence (unless they were caught or there is DNA remaining) to arrest anyone.

[Wirelessone]

If LE observes an individual leaving a suspected AMP, is there any legal concern for that individual? Would LE use that individual's license plate to try to identify the individual if the AMP is under investigation?

If after you leave the massage parlor you're pulled over by the police, ask them why are you being stopped, if they haven't told you upfront, and if it's related to your visit to the massage parlor, tell them you aren't comfortable answering those questions and you want to exercise your right to remain silent. If you are told that you're not under arrest,we just have some questions and we'll let you go, restate your right to remain silent cause the police just lied to you.

If you admit to criminal behavior, you will be arrested.

To answer your question, of course the police can make note of your license plate, doesn't matter if its in the parking lot of 7-11 or a massage parlor. When you travel within the public roadways, you don't have any right of privacy, it's what allows police to run DUI checkpoints, it's a public roadway.

Bottom line, if stopped shut up. Shutting up doesn't meant you won't be arrested but giving no information to the police about your illegal activity goes a long way towards keeping you from being convicted of a crime.

Wired.

[HapaBoy86]

If LE observes an individual leaving a suspected AMP, is there any legal concern for that individual? Would LE use that individual's license plate to try to identify the individual if the AMP is under investigation?

If they are under investigation or le is doing uc? Yes, they will log all people who come in and out of the establishment and could take pics of all plates and or take pics or video people.

Who leave. They're building they case for when they get the okay from the judge or the to raid the location.

[Nutzoid]

If LE observes an individual leaving a suspected AMP, is there any legal concern for that individual? Would LE use that individual's license plate to try to identify the individual if the AMP is under investigation?

AMP stands for Asian massage parlor. Massages are not illegal. Yes, you could be interviewed. But, don't every lie. Does say you don't want to discuss it. Most people lie or volunteer more information than they should. You don't need nor should discuss. Police go after low hanging fruit. Know your rights and you won't get picked.

[Nebresa]

If LE observes an individual leaving a suspected AMP, is there any legal concern for that individual? Would LE use that individual's license plate to try to identify the individual if the AMP is under investigation?

[BenderOver]

$600 is a way low ball figure. More like $500 for the actual fine, but around $4000 in what they call penalty assessments which is a de facto fine imposed by the court for being incovenienced to hear your case. This is on top of the legal costs for your defense.

Depends on the county that the courtroom is in. Some counties are more because there are bonds still out there to keep the courtrooms in good repair. But the penalties are about 3 x's the fine.

They pay for various state services, such as fish and games, restitution fund, peace officers training fund, driver training fund, corrections training fund, public prosecutor and defender fund, victim / witness assistet, traumatic brain injury, courtroom security officers, etc.

Then add extra penalties authorized by the penal code for traffic violations in construction zones.