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**PilotCary** · 03-19-18 18:24

And the frog legs I was talking about are appetizers at this place called the Bullpen Steakhouse in Oakman. If you've ever been to Angelo's in Panama City, I'd put their steak right up there with them.

I will second the opinion of the steak at the Bullpen. I have been eating there for many years and its always been excellent food and service. They need to bring back the Old York USA festivities on the property again. Used to be a great outing to go enjoy every year. They still have some events and concerts that are enjoyable I like to attend when possible but mostly I just go for the food at the restaurant.

**Clark Kent** · 03-19-18 05:12

Honestly, both those situations sound like things that have happened to me in the past. They both have something similar, in that it was girls trying to find a way out of a situation, and make it your fault, instead of owning up to what they felt. The first one was trying to find some reason to get out of going back to the room with you, so she makes it look like your not knowing the road made her uncomfortable. The second girl, she used the fact that you didn't call her the whole day afterward as a way to get her feelings hurt and turn it on you, when it was her being stupid in the first place when you were just trying to appear concerned for her. There's times you just can't win, and I definitely have been in very similar situations.

Those type situations are what ends up happening in a lot of the meetups and girls I've met thru dating sites. It's why I've always said that the girls I encounter those ways end up being flaky or something stupid comes up which ends things with them. More often than not, girls I've found on dating sites end up having just gotten out of a relationship and aren't actually over them yet, or they have other guys or a husband they're separated from or something.

And the frog legs I was talking about are appetizers at this place called the Bullpen Steakhouse in Oakman. If you've ever been to Angelo's in Panama City, I'd put their steak right up there with them.

**JoeDeertay** · 03-18-18 15:59

I want to know where the frog legs can be had, LOL. That's good eating. Way better than chicken. Anyway, I had a girl I met in a bar a few years ago in Nashville. She was a professional, in her late 20's and employed by University of Kentiucky. Very cute, smart the whole deal. And she had her friends with her who were talking to guys as well. After sitting and having a drink she mentions something about her sister is her best friend, greatest person ever, yada yada. And I just say in passing when she asks if I had any siblings, I say yes, a brother but he's kind of a dick most days. And you would've thought I insulted her grandmother. And for a minute I'm thinking she's just busting my balls, because she's kinda sarcastic anyway. Well, no she's serious. And she's giving me all this shit about the importance of family relationships and that I should cherish them. So finally I just tell her, ok that's enough, calm the fuck down. Lighten up Francis. So, I just change the subject. I'm thinking she can just get passed and head off, and it was still early enough for me to go find another one. She gets back to her old self and after an hour or so her friends say they are going back to the room because. One of them had a headache. So the girl I'm with says she's going to stay with me if I didn't have a problem taking her back to her hotel. She asked if I knew where it was and I did because I had lived up there. In all honestly I'm just trying to get in this girls pants. And she's doing her best teasing and all that shit. So we walk around downtown for an hour or so and she says that she's ready to go to the room. So we start driving towards her hotel which is about 2 miles from downtown, but where you turn into it can be tricky. You turn off the main road and wind yourself through an office park area and it's tucked behind all that. So I'm driving down the road and listening to her and kinda talking out loud about where to turn and all of a sudden she says, I thought you knew where it was. Don't play games. I trusted you to know what you were doing. I was like, calm down I know where I'm going, the road kinda sneaks up on you. And since the last time I had been there they had built something on the corner, so that kinda through me off and I end up passing the road, but as soon as I did I knew it. So I find somewhere to turn around, and the whole time you would've thought I was trying to rape this poor girl. She's telling me she doesn't feel safe and all this shit because I was making her uncomfortable not being 100% sure of where I was going and that she'd probably be better off walking. So, finally when I got turned around in a business lot that was closed, I told her to get the hell out if she didn't feel comfortable and that I was tired of her crazy fucking shit. I pointed to where she needed to go and how far (which was about 3 blocks) and told her to get after it. And she asks if was serious, and I told her I've never more serious about anything. And then she calls me a dick and fifteen other things as she closes the door. And I went back to my hotel. The whole drive home I'm thinking, what the fuck is wrong with people? And I had a girl I met a few years ago on vacation and we kept up a long distance relationship for about 5-6 months seeing each other 2-3 times, which I paid for any lodging or flight she had to take. And she was another professional, college educated, good family, the whole deal. The only thing wrong with her was that she thought she was 15 years younger than what she was. And she was another one that her form of communication was texting. She knew I didn't and we would email or either why'all on the phone. So one day we're talking and she's saying something about her co worker and how she has it in for her and all this. And the girl I was dating worked at a lab at night. So I just told her to be careful l, pay attention to her surroundings and if God for bid something happened to fight like hell and you've the shit of them with whatever. And I had already told her to let me know when she would got home safely. All she had to do was email because it was going to be 1-2 in the morning. And from that she starts in on the "I can take care of myself, been doing it for years, blah blah and my parents don't even worry about me that much. And she's fucking angry. And I'm like, ok ill talk to you later and just hung up. Well, she calls the next evening and starts telling me how this isn't going to workout anymore. I was like what the fuck ever. Better you show your crazy now than when I can't get out of it without owing you money. People nowadays are either nuts, lazy or disrespectful. And I have no use for anyone like that.

Originally Posted by ClarkKent [View Original Post]

I think some women have to get up the nerve to do anything, and when they decide to, it just is what it is. I think that's what it was with the one from Tuscaloosa as well. She just was in the mood to do it, and take it or leave it when she wanted to. I've heard nothing back from her, either. Never mind we started talking several hours earlier and could have been talking more toward meeting if we actually knew where the other was. Halfway thru the conversation I found out she was smoking pot, so I figured that wasn't going to go anywhere, anyway. I had another one of my chats go weird last night, as well, over something totally stupid. First of all she said she wanted to talk on the phone, and I said sure. Then she said she'll call me when she gets home. So that never really came about, but we were still texting. We were talking about places to eat, and she was telling me how she liked fried pickles as an appetizer, and I was mentioning all the weird things I've seen as appetizers, including frog legs at this one restaurant I go to. She said she'd never eat frog legs, so I told her you shouldn't knock something until you tried it. She then said something to make it sound like she'd already tried them, so I just said in general that I've learned to never say I don't like something until I actually try it. Next thing I know she's like nobody tells me what and what not to eat blah blah, I used to be a vegetarian, blah blah. I said I wasn't telling her what to eat, just having conversation. Then she doesn't reply for the longest, so I ask if she's ok. Then she's like I just don't care to talk about frog legs, they're disgusting. Mind you, I'd already left that, but I still said I'm sorry. So then I get nothing again, so I say something back, and she says she's fine, just tired, and doesn't reply back and still hasn't. I'm thinking where the fuck did all this come from? She talked to me a couple nights earlier about her being single and regretting stuff, maybe I see why she's single. I mean who flies all off the handle about random conversations? I guess I was making her feel like someone forcing her to do something. I still wondered why she never actually called, when she said she was going to. All this to make someone comfortable into meeting up. But a lot of times, in the long run it's worth it, for finding someone to hookup with long term who's not drugged out or trying to rush, plus it's a whole lot cheaper LOL.

**Clark Kent** · 03-18-18 15:15

Originally Posted by JoeDeertay [View Original Post]

I had one I inquired about on craigslist 4-5 years ago ......

I think some women have to get up the nerve to do anything, and when they decide to, it just is what it is. I think that's what it was with the one from Tuscaloosa as well. She just was in the mood to do it, and take it or leave it when she wanted to. I've heard nothing back from her, either. Never mind we started talking several hours earlier and could have been talking more toward meeting if we actually knew where the other was. Halfway thru the conversation I found out she was smoking pot, so I figured that wasn't going to go anywhere, anyway. I had another one of my chats go weird last night, as well, over something totally stupid. First of all she said she wanted to talk on the phone, and I said sure. Then she said she'll call me when she gets home. So that never really came about, but we were still texting. We were talking about places to eat, and she was telling me how she liked fried pickles as an appetizer, and I was mentioning all the weird things I've seen as appetizers, including frog legs at this one restaurant I go to. She said she'd never eat frog legs, so I told her you shouldn't knock something until you tried it. She then said something to make it sound like she'd already tried them, so I just said in general that I've learned to never say I don't like something until I actually try it. Next thing I know she's like nobody tells me what and what not to eat blah blah, I used to be a vegetarian, blah blah. I said I wasn't telling her what to eat, just having conversation. Then she doesn't reply for the longest, so I ask if she's ok. Then she's like I just don't care to talk about frog legs, they're disgusting. Mind you, I'd already left that, but I still said I'm sorry. So then I get nothing again, so I say something back, and she says she's fine, just tired, and doesn't reply back and still hasn't. I'm thinking where the fuck did all this come from? She talked to me a couple nights earlier about her being single and regretting stuff, maybe I see why she's single. I mean who flies all off the handle about random conversations? I guess I was making her feel like someone forcing her to do something. I still wondered why she never actually called, when she said she was going to. All this to make someone comfortable into meeting up. But a lot of times, in the long run it's worth it, for finding someone to hookup with long term who's not drugged out or trying to rush, plus it's a whole lot cheaper LOL.

**JoeDeertay** · 03-18-18 10:05

I had one I inquired about on craigslist 4-5 years ago and she was a normal woman, not a paid lady. So we emailed back and forth and after a while I sent her my number after I realized she wasn't a weirdo, but I told her I didn't text. And this started about 4 in the afternoon on a Saturday and about 6 or so she went silent. I tried to email her several times in the span of about an hour, so I just the said the hell with it, and watched a ballgame. Well, at about 8:30 I get an email from her asking if I wanted to get together that evening. Now keep in mind I had already mentioned doing that exact thing a few times already with no answer whatsoever. And I've always been someone who, once I get settled in the evening, and depending on the time, I'm not going out. So, with this woman it was getting on 9 o clock. So I said what the hell, and said where are you? Now she advertised in the Birmingham section, but never would answer me when I asked her whereabouts she lives. She then tells me she's in Montgomery but only works in Birmingham 3-4 days a week. I thought, are you kidding me? She then asks me where I would like to meet and she suggests just meeting her at the Alabster exit on 31 at 10:30. I told her that wasn't going to happen and why the hell has she pissed around the whole day waiting that late to meet. She said she didn't think anything of it. I told her why not just meet up when she comes to Birmingham in a few days for work. And after that I heard nothing again. I guess she got her feelings hurt or something, who the fuck knows. But people nowadays are so disrespectful and borderline airheads when it comes to communication. And what really pissed me off was that all she had to do was call. I had given her my number 3 hours before she even got back and set up a time.

Originally Posted by ClarkKent [View Original Post]

I think it's this day and time, and the ghosting aspect of it, where people think it's fine to just get back to you when they want to. If they're engaged in a conversation, they can talk for hours. One of the girls I'm trying to get with talked to me for around three hours last night thru text, then sent me a text when she woke up this morning while I was still asleep. An hour and a half or so later I replied back when I woke up, and now it's going on two hours since I texted her. When they take forever to get back, I always think I've said something, and somewhat analyze how I worded my last text. Texting is more matter of factly, and doesn't necessarily come across like someone speaks in real life. Honestly, I've come to think they wait so long to reply, intentionally, to try to hook you. I was texting this other girl the other night, and we were talking about hooking up that same night, and it was getting on quite early in the morning. Finally she says something about meeting up, and asks where I am, then she informs me she's on the western side of Tuscaloosa. I'm thinking why didn't you tell me this in the first place. It's like 2:30 in the morning, and she's in Tuscaloosa. No time by then. It's just aggravating, sometimes.

**Clark Kent** · 03-17-18 12:57

Originally Posted by JoeDeertay [View Original Post]

That's why I don't text to anyone.....

I think it's this day and time, and the ghosting aspect of it, where people think it's fine to just get back to you when they want to. If they're engaged in a conversation, they can talk for hours. One of the girls I'm trying to get with talked to me for around three hours last night thru text, then sent me a text when she woke up this morning while I was still asleep. An hour and a half or so later I replied back when I woke up, and now it's going on two hours since I texted her. When they take forever to get back, I always think I've said something, and somewhat analyze how I worded my last text. Texting is more matter of factly, and doesn't necessarily come across like someone speaks in real life. Honestly, I've come to think they wait so long to reply, intentionally, to try to hook you. I was texting this other girl the other night, and we were talking about hooking up that same night, and it was getting on quite early in the morning. Finally she says something about meeting up, and asks where I am, then she informs me she's on the western side of Tuscaloosa. I'm thinking why didn't you tell me this in the first place. It's like 2:30 in the morning, and she's in Tuscaloosa. No time by then. It's just aggravating, sometimes.

**JoeDeertay** · 03-16-18 17:09

That's why I don't text to anyone. I did for awhile about ten years ago and it was the most aggravating thing to me. And this was with unjust normal girls you were dating and friends. I'd send something to someone and it may be 2-3 hours before they responded, and I knew they had their damn phones glued to them. And it would be just a simple question or statement and it would be silent. So after about about a year of doing it, I said the hell with it. If someone wants to contact me they can email me or call. And when you make someone call you, you find out who your friends are, LOL. And I'm not on Facebook, could care less about that shit but I made up a fake account so I could try and locate this girl I knew casually about 25 years ago. And I got in touch with her and she happened to be moving back here about a month after I started talking to her on fb messenger. And honestly I had no clue what that even was to begin with. She had come here to get away from her husband and move back in with her mother and daughter who lived here because she didn't want to live in Texas. Long story short she moved back because her other daughter was having some problems and her mom has apparently has gone bat shit crazy in the 25 years since I knew her. But talking on fb messenger, since I don't text, is a way for us to communicate. And like what you say, you know when they have been on there and when they read your message. We would communicate numerous times through the day but at times, and it's been that way of late where I would respond to her when I knew she wasn't doing anything and it may be days before she would get back. And she had been on there routinely throughout the days. And she would respond it would be "hey, good morning, have a good day. " And I would respond back and it may be 9 at night when she'd say" hey, whatcha up to?" And I would respond and again it maybe 3 the next day before she asked some other question. And she's in her late 30's. So, I just said the hell with this. I'm not going to worry about being Johnny on the spot when answering someone.

[QqUOTE=ClarkKent;3762071]We've talked about before different ways of meeting up with women. One thing I've noticed of late about the younger age groups, is their frequency of just randomly not replying to texts for hours upon end. I guess it's from the mindset of people ghosting, that even if you're still talking to them, it's fine to just stop replying in the middle of a conversation. It's one thing if it's in the middle of the night, but it's another in the middle of the day, when you're having an engaging conversation and they just stop replying. I'm currently talking to three different women thru text, and each of them to some degree does this. Another I'm talking to thru FB messenger, and that's a bit different, because there you can see when they're online, have seen your message and so forth. But it's just different with text because you never know if they've seen the text, if you've said something wrong, or what. And if you assume too much, and send a text trying to explain what you meant or whatever, then that can be an issue, too. And then, hours later, sometimes well into the next day, they'll just start back on the conversation, like nothing happened. There's one woman I started talking to the first of last month, and we had good conversation for like a couple days, then something happened with her child's health, and she now sends me these random texts every week or so saying she's sorry for appearing so flaky and whatnot. I don't know, it just gets frustrating trying to make sense of the younger crowds nowadays. I try to let it be up to them when they want to meet up, and sometimes I think it makes some lose interest because I'm not aggressive enough, but yet if you're aggressive toward some, then you're pushy and acting creepy or something. It's almost like you can't win. I used to never have trouble meeting up with women I'd find in this way. Many I'd meet up with the night I started talking to them. In the past, it was always them wanting me to come to them, in that respect, now it's them wanting to come to me. It's just weird. Sorry, needed to vent, and nowhere else to do so. LOL. [ / QUOTE].

**Clark Kent** · 03-16-18 13:27

We've talked about before different ways of meeting up with women. One thing I've noticed of late about the younger age groups, is their frequency of just randomly not replying to texts for hours upon end. I guess it's from the mindset of people ghosting, that even if you're still talking to them, it's fine to just stop replying in the middle of a conversation. It's one thing if it's in the middle of the night, but it's another in the middle of the day, when you're having an engaging conversation and they just stop replying. I'm currently talking to three different women thru text, and each of them to some degree does this. Another I'm talking to thru FB messenger, and that's a bit different, because there you can see when they're online, have seen your message and so forth. But it's just different with text because you never know if they've seen the text, if you've said something wrong, or what. And if you assume too much, and send a text trying to explain what you meant or whatever, then that can be an issue, too. And then, hours later, sometimes well into the next day, they'll just start back on the conversation, like nothing happened. There's one woman I started talking to the first of last month, and we had good conversation for like a couple days, then something happened with her child's health, and she now sends me these random texts every week or so saying she's sorry for appearing so flaky and whatnot. I don't know, it just gets frustrating trying to make sense of the younger crowds nowadays. I try to let it be up to them when they want to meet up, and sometimes I think it makes some lose interest because I'm not aggressive enough, but yet if you're aggressive toward some, then you're pushy and acting creepy or something. It's almost like you can't win. I used to never have trouble meeting up with women I'd find in this way. Many I'd meet up with the night I started talking to them. In the past, it was always them wanting me to come to them, in that respect, now it's them wanting to come to me. It's just weird. Sorry, needed to vent, and nowhere else to do so. LOL.

**JoeDeertay** · 03-12-18 23:00

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**JoeDeertay** · 03-12-18 17:00

She has to get routine customers because she still puts up ads. I mean she is a legitimate street walker. She's like that episode of Seinfeld where Jerrys date looked better in dim lighting. Not that she would look any better, but her walking on a dimly lit street and you pick her up you probably wouldn't notice much that she looks like hammered shit.

Originally Posted by ClarkKent [View Original Post]

I'll bet she did. She reminds me of a girl I went to elementary thru high school with who was the girl all the boys wanted back then. Every class had one. About 5 years or so ago, she reached out to me on social media, we reconnected, and actually had a very short relationship. But the girl was a total mess. She wasn't as bad as this one appears, but she called herself getting high by taking an entire box of Mucinex pills. Around 30 something pills. I didn't even know she was on anything at first, and she tried covering it up by drinking large amounts of wine. But Mucinex taken at that level makes someone almost completely comatose. She didn't start taking them around me at the level she was used to until she was where she thought I wouldn't care. I ignored things for the longest time just because of who she was, and basically living my teenage fantasy at the time. Turned out she was shopping herself around to find someone willing to take the mess she was in. After about a month, I'd had enough. But during that time, especially before finding out about her bad habits, I got to experience things my teenage self only fantasized would ever happen. And I'm sure there's some guys out there who was in Joker girl's class, who even in that mess of a state, would still feel like I did.

**Clark Kent** · 03-12-18 13:21

Originally Posted by OldGenxer [View Original Post]

Yeah she just had her 46th birthday this month. Back in high school she was a cutie. Couple of decades of hard living and IV rec issues have taken a toll.

I'll bet she did. She reminds me of a girl I went to elementary thru high school with who was the girl all the boys wanted back then. Every class had one. About 5 years or so ago, she reached out to me on social media, we reconnected, and actually had a very short relationship. But the girl was a total mess. She wasn't as bad as this one appears, but she called herself getting high by taking an entire box of Mucinex pills. Around 30 something pills. I didn't even know she was on anything at first, and she tried covering it up by drinking large amounts of wine. But Mucinex taken at that level makes someone almost completely comatose. She didn't start taking them around me at the level she was used to until she was where she thought I wouldn't care. I ignored things for the longest time just because of who she was, and basically living my teenage fantasy at the time. Turned out she was shopping herself around to find someone willing to take the mess she was in. After about a month, I'd had enough. But during that time, especially before finding out about her bad habits, I got to experience things my teenage self only fantasized would ever happen. And I'm sure there's some guys out there who was in Joker girl's class, who even in that mess of a state, would still feel like I did.

**OldGenxer** · 03-12-18 07:18

Originally Posted by JoeDeertay [View Original Post]

I saw this one today up close for the first time. I've read all the reviews about her over the years and there was no way in hell I would ever see her.

Yeah she just had her 46th birthday this month. Back in high school she was a cutie. Couple of decades of hard living and IV rec issues have taken a toll.

**JoeDeertay** · 03-11-18 22:56

Dude, if she smelled like mayonnaise, that would probably be an improvement over what she looked like she smelled. I'm guessing a mixture of gamey feet, sour pussy, shit and cigarette smoke.

Originally Posted by Manjushri [View Original Post]

Someone's comment that she smelled like mayonnaise was enough for me.