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  1. #16423

    Citation

    Quote Originally Posted by ZReelman  [View Original Post]
    It was a sheriff's dept. raid. They broken into the rooms of another monger and me. Later a officer from SDPC identified himself to me and said they were investigating. The other monger and I were both given tickets for a 647 (B) (2) offense (look it up). While their is no evidence of that violation we got the tickets nonetheless.
    That ticket is just to appear, it alleges violation of PC 647 (b) (2).

    It's the burden of proof on the state / county to see that you committed said misdemeanor.

    Hopefully either party did not confess to anything nor said anything that alluded to payment or being paid for sex. And it was a mutual / consenting. It just happened to have more than the rub.

    I'm not an attorney, you guys should consult one.

    On a lighter note, once can say, hey I'm the victim here, I was taken by surprise and thinks just went. "what am I suppose to do?

  2. #16422

    Fruit of the Poisonous Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Malencho  [View Original Post]
    Sorry guys for this but just saying what I read. I did some research on cops doing license check for AMP and they use this excuse to get in and setup hidden cameras. Because everything is behind close doors, they can setup cameras to find probable cause just to get a warrant to raid the place during a busy streak! If you guys know the owners or the MMS might want to give them a head up to check each room for cameras or just try not to go for a while. They only do these operation for a couple of weeks. If they can't find anything, they move on.
    Press the 'Pause Button' on that speculation, and continue your research.

    Please research about a Citizen's 4th-Amendment Rights (and more specifically, the 'Fruit-of-the-Poisonous-Tree' rule).
    Which prevents evidence obtained in violation of the Fourth Amendment from being admitted in a criminal trial.
    And Yes there are some exceptions to the Rule (Specifically there are 6 known exceptions).
    But none of those exceptions would allow Law Enforcement to secretly obtain video evidence to be use in connection with a criminal complaint if obtained in the 'Private Area's' of a Business).

    In the Robert Kraft case;.
    Charges against New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft were ultimately dropped in September 2020, after the office of Florida Attorney General (Ashley Moody) said the state solicitor general would not seek another appeal in the case.
    And "Although there was probable cause to make an arrest, the evidence cannot prove all legally-required elements of the crime alleged, and is insufficient to support a criminal prosecution," said State Attorney (David Aronberg). (Eventhoughthe video clearly shows Lulu masturbating Kraft to climax).
    And, Palm Beach County Judge, (Leonard Hanser), ordered the destruction of video evidence previously suppressed in the case against New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft.
    As so ordered "The state shall destroy the suppressed evidence forthwith and submit documentation to this Court outlining the steps it took to comply".
    *Source; https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/02/us/fl...yed/index.html.

    The Robert Kraft case thus became a nationwide test of "The legality of wrongfully obtained evidence" VS "a Citizen's Fourth Amendment Rights" . And the Test Failed (Miserably).
    As a result All Law Enforcement Agency's now realize that secretly installing Video (or Audio) Survalience inside a Business or on Private Property (with or without a Warrant) will result in the evidence being challenge under the 'Fruit-of-the-Poisonous-Tree rule' and be sequentially thrown out.
    So, the Bottom Line is; Law Enforcement still has to bust AMP Prostitution (Providers or Mongers) the 'Old Fashioned' way, -by posing as a regular undercover customer, and obtain evidence in person.

  3. #16421

    Vip update: Regarding new policy changes

    I'm not trying to come off here as being all kind of self important. But I received a text message from 1 of the girls at VIP about an hour and a half ago.

    She asked me if I could post here the following 411: That for the time being, VIP will Not be allowing any "Walk in's" that the only way they will be seeing clients, is Via appointments only, made in advance and that the front door will be kept locked at all times. The only way they will allow you inside. Is for you to contact them via call / text once you arrive. And for the time being: "We will only take people we know, or referred by people we've seen before. ".

    Quote Originally Posted by ZReelman  [View Original Post]
    It was a sheriff's dept. raid. They broken into the rooms of another monger and me. Later a officer from SDPC identified himself to me and said they were investigating. The other monger and I were both given tickets for a 647 (B) (2) offense (look it up). While their is no evidence of that violation we got the tickets nonetheless.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZReelman  [View Original Post]
    So after receiving numerous text messages in regards to my well being from VIP I replied that I would like to come back and talk to the therapists. When I returned tonight the girls all knew what happened to me in connection with the police invasion. Apparently, LE was only able to make sure that all of them were licensed to work there. After a deep discussion, they saw the blood on my hand and forehead where the authorities put me against the wall
    I would really like to know the legalities, regarding how LE can issue citations to 2 customer's, with any of the provider's also being charged? One would think, that if these (the above) allegations were in fact true, that VIP would not presently be back in Operation later that very same day, and the next? Am I missing something here? Thank you.

  4. #16420

    Erma

    Quote Originally Posted by TempleAvenue  [View Original Post]
    I stopped by Erma to try a girl named Angel since last time the door was closed when I got there.

    I entered and rang the bell. A girl quite chubby with large breast came out (I don't know if that's MMS). I immediately asked her if Angel is available (since I know she does not match Angel's characteristic mentioned in this forum). She asked me like what do you want? I wanted a massage and she asked me to follow and set me in a room and asked me if I wanted 30 min or 60 minutes. I continued to ask that I wanted Angel and she was a little bit annoyed or something. She said she is here and asked me to pay. I asked her if I could use the rest room and would pay to Angel (as I wanted to confirm that Angel is here). When I came back, a girl entered the room and greeted me. Petite and a little bit young. I thought it was Angel and didn't ask her name. Pay $6 for 30 minutes and she came back. She massage me and I was touching her thigh and we talked about it. $. 6 and she got her supplies. She undressed and she has nice natural B+, quite firm and natural Bush. She didn't allow kiss on her mouth. She gave me a covered BJ. Since I paid $.6 for 30 minutes, I thought it would include BBBJ. We continued and I asked her to lie down. She didn't let me DATY. I was a bit turn off. She asked me to f* her and I entered her. I wanted to suck those nips and she didn't allow me. No kissing on mouth. Literally, other my d* inside and nothing was offered. I asked her to do doggy and she was complaining to cum. It was like 10 minutes since the sessions started. I asked her to ride me and I decided to came. I asked her to message me and she said "I am not good with message" there is like 10 minutes left. After I came, I wanted to write a review and asked her name. She said it was Yoon Yoon. I told her that I came to see Angel and she said she left. Always changed. Very bad service for me. I kind of gave her a hint that there was a review forum and her review would be up.
    Names almost sound the same.

    Why are we paying for this shit service Guys, I hope VIP doesn't get jaded like this.

  5. #16419

    Yoon Yoon at Erma

    I stopped by Erma to try a girl named Angel since last time the door was closed when I got there.

    I entered and rang the bell. A girl quite chubby with large breast came out (I don't know if that's MMS). I immediately asked her if Angel is available (since I know she does not match Angel's characteristic mentioned in this forum). She asked me like what do you want? I wanted a massage and she asked me to follow and set me in a room and asked me if I wanted 30 min or 60 minutes. I continued to ask that I wanted Angel and she was a little bit annoyed or something. She said she is here and asked me to pay. I asked her if I could use the rest room and would pay to Angel (as I wanted to confirm that Angel is here). When I came back, a girl entered the room and greeted me. Petite and a little bit young. I thought it was Angel and didn't ask her name. Pay $6 for 30 minutes and she came back. She massage me and I was touching her thigh and we talked about it. $. 6 and she got her supplies. She undressed and she has nice natural B+, quite firm and natural Bush. She didn't allow kiss on her mouth. She gave me a covered BJ. Since I paid $.6 for 30 minutes, I thought it would include BBBJ. We continued and I asked her to lie down. She didn't let me DATY. I was a bit turn off. She asked me to f* her and I entered her. I wanted to suck those nips and she didn't allow me. No kissing on mouth. Literally, other my d* inside and nothing was offered. I asked her to do doggy and she was complaining to cum. It was like 10 minutes since the sessions started. I asked her to ride me and I decided to came. I asked her to message me and she said "I am not good with message" there is like 10 minutes left. After I came, I wanted to write a review and asked her name. She said it was Yoon Yoon. I told her that I came to see Angel and she said she left. Always changed. Very bad service for me. I kind of gave her a hint that there was a review forum and her review would be up.

  6. #16418

    Erma Spa Yoyo Terrible experience

    https://sandiego.rubratings.com/257474

    So I had this place on my list to try. I had seen a review on rub maps and stated BBFS and then ran across their advertisement on Rubratings clearly stating the same thing. This morning I drive over there and walk in and I am greeted by yo-yo who is wearing a mask. Has a nice body can't really tell what her face looks like yet. Paid $60 for the 30 minutes. I handed her a $100 bill and she left when she came back she did not have my change. I laid face down and we had some casual chat about the weather and China and whatever. She did not even attempt to give me a massage just ran her fingers over my butt for about 3 minutes and then I turned over because I didn't want to feel rushed. She asked what I wanted I told her full service, she asked how much I was going to pay. I assumed BBFS would be close to 200 so I handed her another $150 and stated that she still has my 40 so that equals on total of $190. She said okay and then she came back and dropped down to her knees and try to put a condom on me to give me a CBJ. I requested that she give me a BBBJ and she smiled at me and said that she does not do that. She then attempted to put the condom back on me and I said okay then I will just leave because I do not want to CBJ. She then offered a handjob I was not really looking for that today although some days I am. She then said that she will do a BBBJ for me. I said okay sounds good, she then states that it will be the same price as the full service. I said do you mean you want me to pay $190 for a BBBJ and she said yes that's the normal price. I started laughing I said no thank you I'll just take money back and I'll be on my way. I had only been there about 8 minutes and she said I'll go back and get your tip money back but the boss has to keep the $60 for the house fee. I didn't want to argue I said okay just get my $190 back and I'll be on my way. She comes back and she has $150. I asked her where is the other $40 and she said I thought that would be my tip. I said tip for what, you didn't do anything and I've been here for exactly 8 minutes. She then scoffed and went back down the hall and got my $40 and handed it to me and I walked out the door. Also I mentioned that her advertisement which I showed her on my phone clearly stated that they offer BBFS. She said that none of the girls do that and I don't know why that is on the advertisement. I said okay no problem, no big deal. I just walked out the door. To me this place is a total pass on my list. I very seldom will write negative reviews because I don't like to harm the providers because I know they work hard for their money. But this was absolutely ridiculous.

    Avoid!

  7. #16417

    North County has no good spots

    Quote Originally Posted by FlavaSava  [View Original Post]
    In other news.

    Lusk / MRC group opened up a new spot in North County. Mia is there now. You can find the info on rubratings, or hit them up on their text number if you want the info. I think their trying to keep the spot somewhat UTR..
    So I checked with Flava where this place was and had a TOFTT visit. .5 HF hhr.

    1. There is no signage as it used to be another type of office so you just need to walk in.

    2. Very cold as no heater going and looks like it was set up yesterday.

    3. I have not been to MRC but many have done comparisons of MRC and 108 (and I've been lucky to see Eva). Even if MRC was 1/2 as good as 108, thus place is is 1/100th of that.

    4. Only girl working was Ashley, 40's MEH body, and no personality.

    5. Massage was just her rubbing lightly the same spot for 5 minutes WTH, I had to grunt and moan to get her to move around.

    6. On to the fun stuff, told her wanted it all $. 4 was agreed to, she said it was her first time (how the hell can you be a virgin in this business).

    6 a. She chewed on junior like it was beef jerky, I had to tell her to stop. She again said she did not know what he was doing.

    6 b. Told her to flip to 69 so I could try and DATY, big mistake, once we got into position I knew the catch of the day was not fresh and told her to get off.

    7. Told her just do a HJ, mechanical, slow, did not know what she was doing again.

    Moral of the story is someone always has to TOFTT, she said there is 1 other girl that works there but I would tell everyone to stay clear unless they can get some talent there. Also, the location is not in a great area and to me it seems like any strange traffic would get the neighbors attention.

    I won't provide location but PM me if you want to waste your money.

  8. #16416

    You Spa

    Quote Originally Posted by Maiko  [View Original Post]
    Guys does U Spa out in Spring Valley have a shower for use? I can't seem to find info on their limited ad's.
    I believe so.

  9. #16415

    You spa spring valley

    They have a shower to use at spring valley and lemon grove locations.

  10. #16414

    In Spring Valley used to

    I haven't been for a while but they used to have a shower available.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maiko  [View Original Post]
    Guys does U Spa out in Spring Valley have a shower for use? I can't seem to find info on their limited ad's.

  11. #16413
    Senior Member


    Posts: 455
    Guys does U Spa out in Spring Valley have a shower for use? I can't seem to find info on their limited ad's.

  12. #16412

    108 Not Safe as well

    Went to 108 this afternoon and noticed the same thing happened there as well. A guy sitting inside his car monitoring people in and out. I left without hesitation. 108 and VIP too hot and easily to be watched by police.

  13. #16411
    Quote Originally Posted by RChangDatyKing  [View Original Post]
    I agree, being next to a bakery business is probably not the best place to be.
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthSDasian  [View Original Post]
    Had a feeling VIP would get burned soon, hence I refrained. I wouldn't want to be caught with my pants down, literally LOL.

    It's just too naive to think it would last long when the walls are paper thin and right next to a bakery. The smoke shop probably doesn't care but the bakery? That's a wholesome family business LOL. I'm sure they were the ones who complained / reported.

    Good luck and look out for yourselves everyone.
    This plus just the sheer amount of mongers constantly coming in and out of this place surely has drawn a lot of attention. I've been there several times, and every time there's been at least 4 other mongers coming and going within 30 minutes. Plus you can hear everything! You walk down the hall and literally hear people banging and moaning. It's crazy! They're extremely lucky if the cops didn't hear that when they stopped by (especially if there were 2 mongers "in session" as ZReelam is reporting).

    Manny Muffins.

  14. #16410

    Healthy Spa El Cajon

    I stopped by this place based on another mongers report stating he's had good times there with "Stephanie". I walked in and was greeted by a 40 ish Chinese woman in a bathrobe (MMS? Wasn't sure if she'd be the masseuse or not. In hindsight, I should of asked for Stephanie. Anyway, she took me to the room and told me to get undressed. Nice large clean room with soft music playing and nice mood lighting. Big difference from the small loud rooms with no ceiling, walls that don't go all the way up, and small heat fan on the floor of our favorite wh**re house that I've been frequenting recently LOL.

    So I get naked and lay face down on the table. After a few minutes my masseuse comes in (different gal from who greeted me). Says her name is Suki or Saki? She's from Vegas and has been there 2 weeks she states. I'd say she's mid to late 30's with a killer body. She's about 5'2", flat stomach, nice large C's or small D's, a great ass, nice legs and a pretty trimmed muff. She asks if I want soft or firm. I tell her firm and she starts her massage. The massage was just ok. I'll give her credit, she made an effort, but she clearly has no formal training. During the massage we barley spoke to each other and I was definitely not feeling a connection. When I flipped she asked what I wanted. I said BBBJ. She said $200. I told her no, I can do $120 that's it. She said CBJ for $120. I told her no too much for a CBJ, how much for boom boom? She said $160. At this point, after all the haggling, and feeling no connection, I told her I'm going to pass (figured I'd save my $ for VIP or 108). She then says she'll do a HE for $60. I told her if she gets totally naked I'll do $60, so we agreed on that. The HE was nothing to write home about. She finally got me to the finish line, cleaned me up and out the door I went. Pretty much a waste of $120. I would have been better off staying home and beating off. Will I repeat? Definitely not. I probably should have asked for Stephanie. Or just went to 7-Spa, VIP or 108 (or one of my BBBJ escorts I frequent).

    Mr MuffMan.

  15. #16409

    Exactly what I warned about

    I already warned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malencho  [View Original Post]
    Sorry guys for this but just saying what I read. I did some research on cops doing license check for AMP and they use this excuse to get in and setup hidden cameras. Because everything is behind close doors, they can setup cameras to find probable cause just to get a warrant to raid the place during a busy streak! If you guys know the owners or the MMS might want to give them a head up to check each room for cameras or just try not to go for a while. They only do these operation for a couple of weeks. If they can't find anything, they move on.

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