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  1. #9719
    Quote Originally Posted by CduBonusG  [View Original Post]
    I'm in the same boat. 2 bits of advice. 1) KY Duration Spray- it helps. 2) YES, ask for 2 pops! It doesn't even have to be with 2 girls. I have not had a 2 girl massage so I have no advise on that end but definitely don't be afraid to ask for 2 pops and in my opinion 60 is a fair tip for that (w/ 1 girl). I've had some that suggest mentioning this at the beginning of the massage so they can do 1 pop before massage and 1 pop after which would obviously give a better chance to reset.
    Thanks for the suggestions! I can normally hold out pretty well when I'm with a familiar person. But part of the excitement of MPs for me is seeing where things go in a new situation with a new person, and that added excitement sometimes brings things too close to the edge.

  2. #9718
    Quote Originally Posted by JakolMuna  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for a great review of the providers from Z's massage. I too love therapeutic massage with happy ending.

    I've never tried 2 girl's before because it would just be to hard for me to relax for some reason. You mentioned that Coco is you ger amd prettier then Yoyo but what does she look like? The only girls I've tried from Z's this year are Eva and Anna. Eva is veey famous for going the extra mile.
    Coco is shorter than Yoyo, nice round face, B-cup boobs with nice soft nipples. Not sure of much more than that, it was dark most of the time.

    I share your hesitation with 2 girls. Outside of cost, it seems like it might require more focus to truly enjoy which itself might be less enjoyable. I'm keeping an open mind, will see if the mood strikes me next time I'm there.

  3. #9717
    Senior Member


    Posts: 194
    The article is good (but long). The workaround to Fosta / Sesta is to host the website in a country that doesn't have any laws against it. Rubmaps is. Ch (Switzerland). This forum is. Nl (Netherlands). I don't know why someone hasn't been able to replicate backpage's success yet using this solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBater  [View Original Post]
    Here is a comprehensive, albeit, long article about the how and why we're in the sad state of affairs we're in, a la Backpage, et al. And that includes this forum. While the article remains neutral as to outcome, I predict at least parts of Fosta-Sesta will be found unconstitutional, but that may take years to unfold. Until then, prosecutors and attorneys general have a tool to take down suspected sites. Perhaps this is what be felled Rubmaps? It's not going to get any easier and may even get rougher before this gets settled.

    https://www.wired.com/story/inside-b...s-battle-feds/

  4. #9716
    Quote Originally Posted by InFocus28  [View Original Post]
    Also, as you can tell from my stories above, I tend to be pretty quick on the trigger. However, I can also reset reasonably quickly. Is there any expectation that I'd get 2 pops with 2 girls - 1 each? If so then I'm totally on board.
    I'm in the same boat. 2 bits of advice. 1) KY Duration Spray- it helps. 2) YES, ask for 2 pops! It doesn't even have to be with 2 girls. I have not had a 2 girl massage so I have no advise on that end but definitely don't be afraid to ask for 2 pops and in my opinion 60 is a fair tip for that (w/ 1 girl). I've had some that suggest mentioning this at the beginning of the massage so they can do 1 pop before massage and 1 pop after which would obviously give a better chance to reset.

  5. #9715
    Quote Originally Posted by InFocus28  [View Original Post]
    I've been visiting the area somewhat regularly, and have made it a point to drop in at Z's in Mission Valley as often as I can. I don't request a particular masseuse, just walk in and take what I get. Thought I'd share a little summary of my year so far:

    January: Honey.

    This visit is a little fuzzy, but in general Honey gave a very good massage and pulled her tits out for me during the HJ. Only downside is that she's a smoker, which is a little bit of a turnoff for me. .4 house, .4 tip.

    February: Yoyo.

    Yoyo wore a tight short dress and gave me plenty of opportunity to roam underneath while she was standing at the head of the table massaging my shoulders. Lacy panties underneath, but I didn't try to go past them. Massage was generally pretty good, as was the teasing, and she let me continue UTC access during the HJ but the clothes otherwise stayed on. Best part was probably the relaxing head massage she gave me after the main fun was over. .4 house, .4 tip.

    March: Yoyo.

    Yoyo again, and she recognized me from the previous visit. Similar tight and short dress as before. This time around, I assume due to familiarity, her teasing started much earlier and was way more intimate. While I was still laying face down, she started with light teasing but quickly went deeper in and started directly teasing my taint and balls. This continued to escalate and I responded positively, tipping my hips up to give her better access. She took good advantage and got more aggressive with pressure up and down my whole area, basically to the point where I thought we were headed to a prostate massage. We didn't get there. She kept her fingers outside, but holy crap it felt close. (I know some people don't like this, but I'm a fan and it really worked for me.) She finally had me flip, I was so worked up I came within mere moments, and again she filled the rest of the hour with a great head massage. Despite the extra intimacy, she stayed clothed again. . 4 house, .5 tip because of the bonus assplay.

    April: No Z's, Flanders instead.

    Sadly the only time I had available to stop by at Z's, all the ladies were busy and couldn't fit me in. I was a little worked up and staying in a hotel near Flanders, so I went over there as an alternative. I'm normally a RT guy, not generally looking for FS. I didn't really process how FS-centric Flanders was when I went there, but was quickly reminded when I walked in and asked for an hour and they firmly suggested I just do 30 minutes. The girl (whose name I don't recall, but she was one of the many beauties walking around in LBDs) unsurprisingly didn't bother with much of a massage (no oil, no pressure), and had me flip. When I asked for just HJ, she haggled me into topless BJ. She was beautiful, smelled good, handled junior well, and I blew my load pretty darn fast. Mission accomplished, but I'm not sure I feel like I got my money's worth. But that's more my fault than hers. .4 house, .8 tip (meh).

    May: Coco.

    Back to Z's, pulled Coco for the first time. Very pretty, younger than Yoyo, and quite friendly. Mamsan asked if I was interested in 4-hands, I declined and just stuck with Coco. She came into the room wearing a short skirt (pretty sure it was less than what she was wearing when I walked in). I asked for medium strength massage, but in retrospect I think the massage would've been better if I had asked for hard. She was readily open to roaming, and actually actively encouraged it by grabbing my hand and grinding into it. I still stayed over the panties, but enjoyed her engagement quite a bit. She did some teasing, and then on the flip pulled her tits out and put my hands on them. Then she bent over and placed them near my mouth, and I went ahead and took good advantage. After a while of that, she slid down and started gently rubbing them over my dick. After she teased a bit, she looked at me and said "good tip?" and made a motion with her hand clearly indicating that Russian would be my reward. I nodded enthusiastically, and she really went for it. It didn't take long until I blew my load on her tits. She cleaned everything up and finished with a relaxing arm / leg / head massage. Well done Coco! . 4 house, . 8 tip (totally earned it in my book).

    June: Yoyo.

    Walked in and Yoyo greeted me. Asked for massage, Mamasan again suggested I try 2 girls, but I declined. Yoyo showed me to my room and left me to get undressed. A few moments later, mamasan knocked and came in to try to upsell me on 2 girls again. "We'll make it worth your while!" I was semi-tempted, but also carrying limited cash and really only looking for relaxing massage instead of a new adventure. I stood strong on "just 1" and Yoyo came back, again wearing a tight and short dress. Same as before. Asked for hard massage, she did a very good and thorough job on my back (I'd say her massage skills significantly improved from a few months ago), and I roamed around her ass for a bit while she giggled and indicated amusement. She moved on to teasing, and did a very nice job with massaging my taint and balls (basically the beginning of a HJ from behind), though unlike last time she largely stayed away from the rest. I flipped and she pulled the top of her dress down and offered me her tits while she took care of HJ business. That worked plenty well for me. I blew my load, she cleaned up, and then finished off the rest of the time with great head / arm / leg massage.

    And that brings my story current! I may try to head over to Z's again tomorrow before I depart and see what transpires. I'm considering the 2 girl adventure. Not sure why they're suddenly selling it so hard. Perhaps just because they recognized me as a more regular visitor?

    Anyone have guidance here? I'm open to the idea, but also not sure how it works out financially. Last time, Mamasan seemed to indicate that instead of 1 girl for 1 hour, I should have 2 girls for half hour. Would I expect that to still be the normal. 4 house fee? And for tipping I assume it's. 4 per girl, right? 1. 2 out the door might be worth it once just for fun. Also, as you can tell from my stories above, I tend to be pretty quick on the trigger. However, I can also reset reasonably quickly. Is there any expectation that I'd get 2 pops with 2 girls - 1 each? If so then I'm totally on board.
    Thank you for a great review of the providers from Z's massage. I too love therapeutic massage with happy ending.

    I've never tried 2 girl's before because it would just be to hard for me to relax for some reason. You mentioned that Coco is you ger amd prettier then Yoyo but what does she look like? The only girls I've tried from Z's this year are Eva and Anna. Eva is veey famous for going the extra mile.

  6. #9714

    Rubmaps

    Rubmaps is still up. Delete whatever bookmark or favorite you saved and search rubmaps. Save the new URL and you're good to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBater  [View Original Post]
    Here is a comprehensive, albeit, long article about the how and why we're in the sad state of affairs we're in, a la Backpage, et al. And that includes this forum. While the article remains neutral as to outcome, I predict at least parts of Fosta-Sesta will be found unconstitutional, but that may take years to unfold. Until then, prosecutors and attorneys general have a tool to take down suspected sites. Perhaps this is what be felled Rubmaps? It's not going to get any easier and may even get rougher before this gets settled.

    https://www.wired.com/story/inside-b...s-battle-feds/

  7. #9713

    Summary of recent-ish visits to Z's.

    I've been visiting the area somewhat regularly, and have made it a point to drop in at Z's in Mission Valley as often as I can. I don't request a particular masseuse, just walk in and take what I get. Thought I'd share a little summary of my year so far:

    January: Honey.

    This visit is a little fuzzy, but in general Honey gave a very good massage and pulled her tits out for me during the HJ. Only downside is that she's a smoker, which is a little bit of a turnoff for me. .4 house, .4 tip.

    February: Yoyo.

    Yoyo wore a tight short dress and gave me plenty of opportunity to roam underneath while she was standing at the head of the table massaging my shoulders. Lacy panties underneath, but I didn't try to go past them. Massage was generally pretty good, as was the teasing, and she let me continue UTC access during the HJ but the clothes otherwise stayed on. Best part was probably the relaxing head massage she gave me after the main fun was over. .4 house, .4 tip.

    March: Yoyo.

    Yoyo again, and she recognized me from the previous visit. Similar tight and short dress as before. This time around, I assume due to familiarity, her teasing started much earlier and was way more intimate. While I was still laying face down, she started with light teasing but quickly went deeper in and started directly teasing my taint and balls. This continued to escalate and I responded positively, tipping my hips up to give her better access. She took good advantage and got more aggressive with pressure up and down my whole area, basically to the point where I thought we were headed to a prostate massage. We didn't get there. She kept her fingers outside, but holy crap it felt close. (I know some people don't like this, but I'm a fan and it really worked for me.) She finally had me flip, I was so worked up I came within mere moments, and again she filled the rest of the hour with a great head massage. Despite the extra intimacy, she stayed clothed again. . 4 house, .5 tip because of the bonus assplay.

    April: No Z's, Flanders instead.

    Sadly the only time I had available to stop by at Z's, all the ladies were busy and couldn't fit me in. I was a little worked up and staying in a hotel near Flanders, so I went over there as an alternative. I'm normally a RT guy, not generally looking for FS. I didn't really process how FS-centric Flanders was when I went there, but was quickly reminded when I walked in and asked for an hour and they firmly suggested I just do 30 minutes. The girl (whose name I don't recall, but she was one of the many beauties walking around in LBDs) unsurprisingly didn't bother with much of a massage (no oil, no pressure), and had me flip. When I asked for just HJ, she haggled me into topless BJ. She was beautiful, smelled good, handled junior well, and I blew my load pretty darn fast. Mission accomplished, but I'm not sure I feel like I got my money's worth. But that's more my fault than hers. .4 house, .8 tip (meh).

    May: Coco.

    Back to Z's, pulled Coco for the first time. Very pretty, younger than Yoyo, and quite friendly. Mamsan asked if I was interested in 4-hands, I declined and just stuck with Coco. She came into the room wearing a short skirt (pretty sure it was less than what she was wearing when I walked in). I asked for medium strength massage, but in retrospect I think the massage would've been better if I had asked for hard. She was readily open to roaming, and actually actively encouraged it by grabbing my hand and grinding into it. I still stayed over the panties, but enjoyed her engagement quite a bit. She did some teasing, and then on the flip pulled her tits out and put my hands on them. Then she bent over and placed them near my mouth, and I went ahead and took good advantage. After a while of that, she slid down and started gently rubbing them over my dick. After she teased a bit, she looked at me and said "good tip?" and made a motion with her hand clearly indicating that Russian would be my reward. I nodded enthusiastically, and she really went for it. It didn't take long until I blew my load on her tits. She cleaned everything up and finished with a relaxing arm / leg / head massage. Well done Coco! . 4 house, . 8 tip (totally earned it in my book).

    June: Yoyo.

    Walked in and Yoyo greeted me. Asked for massage, Mamasan again suggested I try 2 girls, but I declined. Yoyo showed me to my room and left me to get undressed. A few moments later, mamasan knocked and came in to try to upsell me on 2 girls again. "We'll make it worth your while!" I was semi-tempted, but also carrying limited cash and really only looking for relaxing massage instead of a new adventure. I stood strong on "just 1" and Yoyo came back, again wearing a tight and short dress. Same as before. Asked for hard massage, she did a very good and thorough job on my back (I'd say her massage skills significantly improved from a few months ago), and I roamed around her ass for a bit while she giggled and indicated amusement. She moved on to teasing, and did a very nice job with massaging my taint and balls (basically the beginning of a HJ from behind), though unlike last time she largely stayed away from the rest. I flipped and she pulled the top of her dress down and offered me her tits while she took care of HJ business. That worked plenty well for me. I blew my load, she cleaned up, and then finished off the rest of the time with great head / arm / leg massage.

    And that brings my story current! I may try to head over to Z's again tomorrow before I depart and see what transpires. I'm considering the 2 girl adventure. Not sure why they're suddenly selling it so hard. Perhaps just because they recognized me as a more regular visitor?

    Anyone have guidance here? I'm open to the idea, but also not sure how it works out financially. Last time, Mamasan seemed to indicate that instead of 1 girl for 1 hour, I should have 2 girls for half hour. Would I expect that to still be the normal. 4 house fee? And for tipping I assume it's. 4 per girl, right? 1. 2 out the door might be worth it once just for fun. Also, as you can tell from my stories above, I tend to be pretty quick on the trigger. However, I can also reset reasonably quickly. Is there any expectation that I'd get 2 pops with 2 girls - 1 each? If so then I'm totally on board.

  8. #9712

    Well, Now We Know. Maybe Rubmaps, Too?

    Here is a comprehensive, albeit, long article about the how and why we're in the sad state of affairs we're in, a la Backpage, et al. And that includes this forum. While the article remains neutral as to outcome, I predict at least parts of Fosta-Sesta will be found unconstitutional, but that may take years to unfold. Until then, prosecutors and attorneys general have a tool to take down suspected sites. Perhaps this is what be felled Rubmaps? It's not going to get any easier and may even get rougher before this gets settled.

    https://www.wired.com/story/inside-b...s-battle-feds/

  9. #9711

    Bangkok Day Spa. Gaslamp

    Anyone have any feedback on Bangkok Day Spa on 4th in the Gaslamp Quarter? Hoping they offer table shower and he. Any word?

  10. #9710
    Quote Originally Posted by Deeto1  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    I haven't been able to logon to rubmaps. I keep getting redirected. Is it just me?
    I think their dot com domain must've ran out / been seized or something. Use the dot ch domain (rubmaps dot ch).

  11. #9709
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSkyBlue  [View Original Post]
    A few days ago it was not loading from a old bookmark so I ended up searching and deleted the old bookmark.

    On the forum several members commented that it was acting funny / couldn't load the page, don't know if it's a software glitch or something but it's up and running for me after I stopped using the old bookmark.
    I'm guessing that they had an old URL that had stopped redirecting to their current URL.

  12. #9708

    It's still there

    A few days ago it was not loading from a old bookmark so I ended up searching and deleted the old bookmark.

    On the forum several members commented that it was acting funny / couldn't load the page, don't know if it's a software glitch or something but it's up and running for me after I stopped using the old bookmark.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deeto1  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    I haven't been able to logon to rubmaps. I keep getting redirected. Is it just me?

  13. #9707
    Quote Originally Posted by Deeto1  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    I haven't been able to logon to rubmaps. I keep getting redirected. Is it just me?
    Rubmaps. Ch.

  14. #9706

    Rubmaps gone?

    Hey guys,

    I haven't been able to logon to rubmaps. I keep getting redirected. Is it just me?

  15. #9705

    Beauty Salon / Rosecrans 305

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie619  [View Original Post]
    Just stopped by the Rosecrans place and it's closed. I still saw the open sign late last night coming home from work. Had some good time there.
    You're kidding me. Aw man it's getting harder to monger down here in San Diego now. Barely any new reviews during the week and with No Name and Beauty gone that's two important places here in SD gone.

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