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  1. #73
    Speck,

    That's MTV. MTV has to always pick absolute garbage. I've seen that show and it's quite pathetic. Here are people that have never worked a day in their life and have no clue what hard work is. They are just a bunch of 16 year olds who should be shipped off to an island to make products for the United States.

  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wastrel
    Oh phooey, it's starting to stink of bullshit in here. People who "generate three million a year" do not spend like idiots, contrary to the fantasies of many trailer park residents. They do not appreciate being taken for fools, and know what things cost. Low life pimps and dope dealers enjoy "livin' large" by setting fire to money like that. Successful people do not. Most of the very wealthy people who spend time in town, of which I have known more than a few both residents and regular visitors, are notorious low rollers. A lot of what is on the most recent page of this thread is is a pile of crap which is not remotely close to accurate in any aspect whatsoever. A couple of guys from LA who make occasional visits, one of which has posted some accurate observations in the past, have gotten completely carried away with what they imagine they "know," and what they "know" in these most recent posts is mostly not true. Not close. Visitors reading this junk need to search through the dozens of archived reports on Strip casino girls, most of them in "General Reports," which contradict this nonsense. They're scattered around over several years at the rate of about one or two a month, and not easy to get at since there's no easy search term to separate them out, but it is wise to take the time and get an accurate picture.

    They ask for all kinds of wild stuff, just in case they've hooked a drunk moron. Happens for them once in a blue moon, and not necessarily to the best lookers either. It does happen, but they could starve to death waiting to hook one of those, though they tend to remember it for months afterward, embellish the tale, and fantasize that they should get that again. Reality is they spend many hours night after night hunting for dates, and they are most often doing it because their boyfriend/uncle/manager/dope dealer said "if you don't bring back at least eight hundred dollars tonight I will kill you" and she's not getting any five day holidays from her video poker addiction and her pimp's coke habit, and she's also not getting anything close to a grand very often. They lie a lot, and most of what they lie about is not sex, it's money. If you want to give her a couple of thousand go ahead, it's no skin off my ass, but you are giving it to the very same hooker who did someone else for about fifteen percent of that, and will again shortly. And guys who do that are just not the kind who are ever likely to accumulate substantial assets and have significant incomes for very long.
    Never watched "My Super Sweet 16" eh wastrel?

  3. #71

    A wise man once said

    Quote Originally Posted by Fission06
    If you're "generating" 3 million a year, you shouldn't have to be paying a woman for pussy. Dinner and wine and all that crap, sure. But to straight up pay for it? To each their own. Doesn't bother me one bit. I certainly wouldn't pay it. Although to not have to deal with their bitching the next day might be an incentive.
    I think it was Charlie Sheen who said I dont pay for the sex I pay them to leave after the sex. He was a big customer of Heidi Fleiss.

  4. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speck
    That was my only damm point. ....but the only market for the high end girls IS very wealthy guys.
    I do know one guy who drives a sorry car earns very little, doesn't say much, lives very humble, but once a year he heads up to Vegas and goes ape shit, I asked him why he does it, his answer it gives him something to look forward to every year.

    I myself have not yet seen Very Hot White Or Latina CG's working in the 200 range, all the decent girls were firm at 350 and up.

    I am sure girls come and go and if you catch a newbie, you could get lucky, hell I get lucky in LA quite often catching newbies, I honestly think they are the best.

  5. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webcams
    1K-2500+ is definitely out of most peoples league, that doesn't make it less worthwhile because of that.

    For the average tourist, 2-400 should get them anything they need.
    That was my only damm point. The average joe making $40-100K a year..and really going by stats, thats actually quite on the high end of average.....ain't dropping $1000...or even $500 on a high end girl. The guys dropping the big bucks on the girls at Bellagio...and I've been turned down there plenty at $300....are guys with a TON of money to spend. Sure lots of wealthy people aren't gonna spend that...hell Greg Maddux and Bill Gates are notorious for playing very low limit poker...but the only market for the high end girls IS very wealthy guys.

  6. #68
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    There is a fine middle ground which spends a substantial amount in Vegas,
    Most Casino Girls are good for us average visitor 200-500, but you know Wastrel that there is an escort business that runs high end, not your everyday CG, that runs a pretty penny.

    All I am saying is that there is significant action for 2-500 in the casino's, but the high end market is Very well worth it every now and again.

    1K-2500+ is definitely out of most peoples league, that doesn't make it less worthwhile because of that.

    I agree with Most of your post though, most cg girls are in that position, Paying a regular CG that amount is stupid, I use to scream about pussy not being worth more then 200, got to say I tried it and liked it and got in good so now I drop change on certain girls which meet that high level of quality.

    Most nights 400 will get you nearly every working girl in the casino, and that works just fine for me, but there is a luxury market, in high-end cars, clothes, everything, and pussy is no different.

    Wastrel come on you know for a fact certain clubs cater to the people who blow $ like it is going out of style Pure comes to mind, Certain people have a lot of money certain people are well off certain people just get by, Those same people who live like money is falling off trees in twenty years might not be off so well, it is not a good way to live unless you can get the $ consistently.

    I know I can speak for myself, I see a lot of money roll through my bank account it comes in in very large checks and goes out the same way, I think I need to have those large expenses to keep me motivated and fighting the good fight, I think people in my income range, who are in the same types of business, are three good or bad months away from a nice vacation or bankruptcy. Tax time is the worst when you ask yourself how you made so much money and there is so little in the bank.

    But I see it like this, Live life and enjoy it because life is way to short, I have seen people die at very young ages from cancer to car wrecks, If I don't live now, I certainly don't want to try and get pussy when I am seventy.

    But to set something straight I am not found Partying in Vegas every weekend, I am not the guy sitting VIP when I go to the club getting bottle service every time, have I done it yes is it fun yes is it a big waste? For me it is, but sometimes you just have to do it.

    Got to love Vegas though there is pussy a plenty.

    For the average tourist, 2-400 should get them anything they need.


    But we all know High Quality Pussy is just that High Quality.

  7. #67
    Wastrel,

    Yup, happened last year, too, when the Cowboys came to town and I was here...and they ain't broke back mountain cowboys. The combination of that and the weekday was bad. The girls are back, or rather they are here (Thursday). Lots of them at the middle bar, but they are surrounded by cowboys. Two girls had "I love cowboys!" shirts. One black girl, and three others at the bar. Three very good looking, two average, and the BCG (Is that even a term?) was bah, not so great.

    I came here in the spring, and it was whoa! All over the place, all types.

    I'm holding onto my money tonight, though. Hit on the roulette wheel and am keeping my money! I want to keep something in my pocket going home this time.

    Thanks for all the info.

    I can only say read the posts, Wastrel's "overview" hit it right on the head.

    Good mongering to all and to all a good night.

  8. #66
    Oh phooey, it's starting to stink of bullshit in here. People who "generate three million a year" do not spend like idiots, contrary to the fantasies of many trailer park residents. They do not appreciate being taken for fools, and know what things cost. Low life pimps and dope dealers enjoy "livin' large" by setting fire to money like that. Successful people do not. Most of the very wealthy people who spend time in town, of which I have known more than a few both residents and regular visitors, are notorious low rollers. A lot of what is on the most recent page of this thread is is a pile of crap which is not remotely close to accurate in any aspect whatsoever. A couple of guys from LA who make occasional visits, one of which has posted some accurate observations in the past, have gotten completely carried away with what they imagine they "know," and what they "know" in these most recent posts is mostly not true. Not close. Visitors reading this junk need to search through the dozens of archived reports on Strip casino girls, most of them in "General Reports," which contradict this nonsense. They're scattered around over several years at the rate of about one or two a month, and not easy to get at since there's no easy search term to separate them out, but it is wise to take the time and get an accurate picture.

    They ask for all kinds of wild stuff, just in case they've hooked a drunk moron. Happens for them once in a blue moon, and not necessarily to the best lookers either. It does happen, but they could starve to death waiting to hook one of those, though they tend to remember it for months afterward, embellish the tale, and fantasize that they should get that again. Reality is they spend many hours night after night hunting for dates, and they are most often doing it because their boyfriend/uncle/manager/dope dealer said "if you don't bring back at least eight hundred dollars tonight I will kill you" and she's not getting any five day holidays from her video poker addiction and her pimp's coke habit, and she's also not getting anything close to a grand very often. They lie a lot, and most of what they lie about is not sex, it's money. If you want to give her a couple of thousand go ahead, it's no skin off my ass, but you are giving it to the very same hooker who did someone else for about fifteen percent of that, and will again shortly. And guys who do that are just not the kind who are ever likely to accumulate substantial assets and have significant incomes for very long.

    P.S. Flamingo, the cowboys are in town. Thousands and thousands of them for a big rodeo thing every year in early December, and the casino working girls get hard ridden and make their nightly quota quick during this week every year. Sorry, but it doesn't change until they ride out of town, and that won't be happening until after this weekend. After the guys in pointy toed boots and big hats leave town, there will be a two week slow patch leading up to Xmas when the working girls will be getting hungry.

  9. #65
    If you're "generating" 3 million a year, you shouldn't have to be paying a woman for pussy. Dinner and wine and all that crap, sure. But to straight up pay for it? To each their own. Doesn't bother me one bit. I certainly wouldn't pay it. Although to not have to deal with their bitching the next day might be an incentive.

  10. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fission06
    No pussy is worth $1000. I don't care if the seas roar or I unload inside her. It is not worth $1000.
    If I've got a net worth of 50 million, generate 3 million a year, and drop $50-100k in Vegas each year, WTF do I care if I spend $300 or $1k for some fine ass pussy.

  11. #63
    No pussy is worth $1000. I don't care if the seas roar or I unload inside her. It is not worth $1000.

  12. #62
    Pretty dead in Flamingo, New York New York, Wynns', etc. I probably drove 50 miles tonight and walked two (but I needed the exercise).

    Dismal, just dismal. There might have been some CG in Flamingo at the back bar, but they weren't all that great if they were, and I"m sure they weren't pros.

    Maybe it'll get better tomorrow since its closer to the weekend. I can only hope.

  13. #61
    On the high prices, if you only come into town once or twice a year and you're an old guy with money, why not drop 600 to a 1k on a really hot young beautiful girl? If you think of the ratio of guys that come in at any one time, and the money they have, it makes sense that the girls can ask for that much--well some of them anyways. And if they get paid $600 versus $200 or $300, do the math. Sleep with three guys and get $1800 or sleep with six to eight guys and get the same amount. And if you spend an hour with each, three hours work versus six to nine hours. So it pays to wait it out.

  14. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Speck
    Oh the money will take care of what you need at Wynn. Its simply not the meat market of prostitution that Bellagio is though. I can make a case that there are actually hotter women on a typical weekend at Wynn, but relatively few are p4p. Compared to Bellagio anyway.

    Ceasers.....thats a wierd thing I think. I don't really understand the allure of the place either. But it attracts lots of really rich middle aged dudes. And those guys attract hookers like mad. So there are lots of hookers at Ceasars. Frankly, Harrahs does a pretty good job of taking care of customers that drop a huge wad of cash. So maybe elsewhere on the strip, $100 a hand at BJ 4 hours a day doesn't get you much...maybe a room, if that. But Harrahs will find a way to keep you coming back and dropping $5K or so a trip. They give you a room and a dinner comp. So these guys always come back to Ceasers. Lots of high rollers have been comped there for years.

    And if anyone ever wonders how there are so many people out there who can drop so much cash so often......

    I consider the $15-30 and $30-60 limit hold em tables at Bellagio to kinda be the crossroads of Vegas....you get all types...novices, pros, those that can't afford, and those that could afford much more. The games are tough enough to provide a challenge, yet easy enough that some wealthy gambler can get lucky, and beat the "pros". Based on the location of the Bellagio poker room(right next to the sports bar & buffet line, and just down from the entrance to Light), lots of people see the place and want to try out a few hands of poker. Literally in one night you will sit with broke novices slipping through their last few hundred, to a steamed rich dude who is po'ed he dropped $50k at craps. So this is what happened on my last trip. Some wealthy rancher guy sat down at a $15-30 LHE table at the Bellagio. He was upset he lost $25K at other gambling. He got to talking to another guy at the table. After a while of talking it became apparent the rancher was being truthfull, and worth a whole lot of millions. I'm thinking....now heres this guy with more money than I could ever hope to have. And he is playing the same game I am. And this SOB is probably gonna pick up the finest hooker in the place, and not care about price!

    So anyway, some dude doing some job you probably never even thought about....these guys get invited to come back to Vegas for free all the time. And they're supporting a whole segment of the city's population in more ways than one.

    Sucks to be us. If you were playing on his table, I hope you helped relieve him of some chips. Just so he didn't have to cash out as much later...

  15. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speck
    After a while of talking it became apparent the rancher was being truthfull, and worth a whole lot of millions. I'm thinking....now heres this guy with more money than I could ever hope to have. And he is playing the same game I am. And this SOB is probably gonna pick up the finest hooker in the place, and not care about price! So anyway, some dude doing some job you probably never even thought about....these guys get invited to come back to Vegas for free all the time. And they're supporting a whole segment of the city's population in more ways than one.
    That is exactly why the High End industry is so successful in Vegas, They don't care about how Much, that is never an issue. To them they want the nicest prettiest girl or girls that he can get his hands on. If I had millions I would just live there banging all the hot chicks, probably till I was broke.

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