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  1. #27124

    Basic Economics 101 - Capitalism Is The Current Market

    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvoc8  [View Original Post]
    Sure, there's some variation. And it would be expected, if for no other reason because things like hotel prices and car rental prices are different. But if a girl can get $800 in LA she isn't going to take $80 in Jax. She'll just move to LA. That's basic common sense. As a result, prices in places like LA, Atlanta, Orlando, NYC, all impact prices and availability here. Sure, it might mean a girl that is $260/ hr somewhere else is $200/ hr here. But I can't help but LOL when I read people demanding that there be a max of $80 for QV or whatever.
    General economics of capitalism look only at the local market. The yin and yang of market forces determines the final price.

    What corn is selling for in Ames, Iowa does not impact what I should pay for corn here in Jax or for what the price should be that you sell corn for in Jax.

    Price for puss in Jax is determined not by prices for puss in other cities or countries. It is cliché thinking, and making excuses, to say otherwise and then skip negotiating to pay silly prices. Local prices for puss are driven by forces here in the local market.

    Because of some imagined interconnections that seem so obvious but just do not exist.

    The only outside force to impact local puss prices is the supply and demand prices in our local market for candy. Again that is only the cost and supply of candy in our local market, not the price of candy in other market. Focus being totally on this market.

    Things may seem interconnected to a broad market but modern economic theories show that is just not the case and is making market connections that do not exist no matter how obvious and real they seem.

    If I drop a 2,000 pound ball and a 200 pound ball from 50 feet above the ground at the same time. Which ball will hit the ground first?

    The super heavy 2,000 ball many would pick because it seems so obvious that heavy things fall faster.

    Yes that is so obvious, but sadly it is not true. All objects fall at the same speed, regardless of weight, that was proven almost 500 years ago. So both balls would hit the ground at the same time is the correct answer. But, so many people argue otherwise because they are sure heavy things fall faster, they are sure of what is obvious to them. That is human nature, and it is not bad or good, it just is something we all do mentally. See connections and interconnections and obvious conclusions that just do not exist.

    We impact the price of puss locally if we negotiate or not, it is that simple. So those who do not negotiate impact local puss prices, just as those who negotiate also impact local puss prices. That was what B Lightening was pointing out many posts ago and what I agree with totally.

    Enough Econ 101, let's go out and enjoy some puss!

  2. #27123

    Kassidy

    Quote Originally Posted by Powerhouse100  [View Original Post]
    Time waster for sure! Apparently, doesn't look at her phone much after she tells you to head her way. I've went to see her twice and each time she just stops answering! Waste of STG space!
    She definitely ghosted me when it was time for me to go up to the room. She stopped answering, then after 10 minutes she said she was getting ready. Finally gave me the apt number and insisted I cashapp her first. It was someone else's cashapp but I didn't give a shit. Laid down for a super quick CBJ. Then off to the main course. She told me that she knew I wasn't going to bust so I might as well just let her use her hands to get me there. I declined and wanted to have my time with the fun bags, but those bags are big but have to be the hardest bags I've ever felt. Complete turnoff. Good luck tho. LOL.

  3. #27122

    Que Sera Sera

    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvoc8  [View Original Post]
    Funny you say that since a girl I saw off of P411 in Jax is currently (or at least was recently) in London. IIRC, she was $350 or $400/ hr. To be honest, I'm frustrated and it isn't because of the price. I've had two time wastes in the last 2 days. To echo what others have written, I'm willing to pay more for reliability and quality. It is just really hard to find. And if anything, based on what I've seen here, it is often at least as expensive as in big cities. In fact, back where I used to be I was often able to hobby for less than here despite it being in the area of the biggest city in the US.

    But personally, I'm not going to be negotiating.
    Enjoy the hobby.

  4. #27121

    I concur about Karmen

    I stay away from youngerman, might consider it for a last resort but even then I've cancelled with Karmen in the past because of her location. Yesterday I hit her up for a dream and boy am I glad I did. That ass is looking healthy these days, legs on point too. Seen her before and she's put on some good weight. That kitty was super tight and I would definitely recommend while she is on the good side of town.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigEnk61  [View Original Post]
    Head note; yes she is a regular of mine. I can say Unequivalently that my safety has never been compromised during visits, that said, I'm only sharing my personal experiences to provide personally verifiable information about the provider for the benefit of fellow mongers.

    Karman is now on the south side. Much nicer and safe environment then youngerman.

    I'm not going to get into details about the dream because I'd only be be repeating my self. (Read my many reviews).

    No Db, or handler, absolutely independent, except for her dog. LOL.

    Great personality and sexy as hell. I give her an 8 out of 10 for Great Great value and satisfaction.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ville/85997824

    Happy hunting, gentlemen.

    Over and out.

  5. #27120
    Quote Originally Posted by MicaMyka  [View Original Post]
    IMO:

    Prices seem to range different from each location based on the local economy of the region. In areas where corporate industry is dominant the hourly rates are high. In areas where blue collar industry is dominant the rates are lower. They also differ based if the place is rural, suburban or city. Industry says that compared to LA. Jacksonville would host cheaper rates. Also rates potentially becoming inflated with the way the city has been advancing economically the last few years so I guess what's happening is directly related to the growth of the city.
    Sure, there's some variation. And it would be expected, if for no other reason because things like hotel prices and car rental prices are different. But if a girl can get $800 in LA she isn't going to take $80 in Jax. She'll just move to LA. That's basic common sense. As a result, prices in places like LA, Atlanta, Orlando, NYC, all impact prices and availability here. Sure, it might mean a girl that is $260/ hr somewhere else is $200/ hr here. But I can't help but LOL when I read people demanding that there be a max of $80 for QV or whatever.

  6. #27119
    Quote Originally Posted by LowBaller  [View Original Post]
    Jax is less than a million people, fine place to live and I like it here, but Jax is nothing like living in LA or NYC or London! Jax is very small-town, provincial, conservative and with one of the lowest college-educated adult base. Salaries in LA do not compare to Jax, the fact someone gets a raise in LA has absolutely no bearing on salaries or hourly wages in Jax. It is a cliche to say because one goes up the other will do the same. Again, I like Jax, I lived here 20 years and I am not putting Jax down. But, I also know what Jax is and what real cities are really like.

    As a long time monger, I have see Kass, Fancy, and zillions of providers every year on stg. Nope, I am not saying I went to dream with them, I am saying I see them day after day, week after week, moth after month, year after year, decade after decade on Jacksonville STG! Again it is cliche thinking to say Jax providers can hop on planes and fly to real cities and get high rates for their worn-out bodies and horrible services. That kind of think is what Lightning was advising against. It seems to be used as an excuse to pay Jax providers high rates because they will otherwise fly away. Such thinking just aint true. It is not reality. First, JKass and Fancy, et al do not have private jets gassed and waiting to fly them to NYC or Paris to make the big bucks. Heck, these girls do not even have cars! Second the Jax providers could hitch a ride to Miami or Tampa or Orlando if they wanted to get some bigger bucks, but the fact is they do not! These Jax girls stay in Jax. We do not have to pay high rates out of fear they will jump on a jet and fly to Paris because it just is not real to think that way. Finally, I have seen providers here and in many cities, including Amsterdam where you walk up to a window and pick a provider for 50 guilders or selecting a real fine provider in LA. These providers in Jax would get eaten up in LA and would never make even 50 dollars. We do not need to use an excuse to pay insane rates because Kass or whoever can get on a jet and fly to a top-paying city or that since salaries are higher in LA we need to pay more for local providers. Cliche or excuse thinking, that is not reality.

    What we mongers need to do is negotiate and have fun enjoying our hobby!

    Enjoy!!
    Funny you say that since a girl I saw off of P411 in Jax is currently (or at least was recently) in London. IIRC, she was $350 or $400/ hr. To be honest, I'm frustrated and it isn't because of the price. I've had two time wastes in the last 2 days. To echo what others have written, I'm willing to pay more for reliability and quality. It is just really hard to find. And if anything, based on what I've seen here, it is often at least as expensive as in big cities. In fact, back where I used to be I was often able to hobby for less than here despite it being in the area of the biggest city in the US.

    But personally, I'm not going to be negotiating.

  7. #27118

    Tall sexy Karman

    Head note; yes she is a regular of mine. I can say Unequivalently that my safety has never been compromised during visits, that said, I'm only sharing my personal experiences to provide personally verifiable information about the provider for the benefit of fellow mongers.

    Karman is now on the south side. Much nicer and safe environment then youngerman.

    I'm not going to get into details about the dream because I'd only be be repeating my self. (Read my many reviews).

    No Db, or handler, absolutely independent, except for her dog. LOL.

    Great personality and sexy as hell. I give her an 8 out of 10 for Great Great value and satisfaction.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ville/85997824

    Happy hunting, gentlemen.

    Over and out.

  8. #27117
    Advertiser-Escort


    Posts: 142

    As a provider

    IMO:

    Prices seem to range different from each location based on the local economy of the region. In areas where corporate industry is dominant the hourly rates are high. In areas where blue collar industry is dominant the rates are lower. They also differ based if the place is rural, suburban or city. Industry says that compared to LA. Jacksonville would host cheaper rates. Also rates potentially becoming inflated with the way the city has been advancing economically the last few years so I guess what's happening is directly related to the growth of the city.

    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvoc8  [View Original Post]
    Houses can't get on a plane and fly somewhere else, girls can. Just like if salaries rise in LA for developers they will also likely rise in Jax.

  9. #27116
    Quote Originally Posted by PervNerd48  [View Original Post]
    This is a good point. About two weeks ago, I saw a longtime provider named Cheryl. (Here's her TER page.) https://www.theeroticreview.com/revi...302-5144-62684.

    She's older. She's not 25 (at least double that). She has a fantastic body for her age. She looked sexy as all hell. I had an incredibly lovely time. It was a full hour. No clockwatching. Clean, and beautiful lingerie. Not full GFE, but it was classy, in a clean place, and I wasn't looking for full GFE. Without getting too deep (because I plan to see her again, and I didn't ask her ahead of time about reviews), I'll say that nothing I wanted was off the menu.

    It was the perfect experience. And I had no problem with her rate. I've paid more, and I've paid less. But if a provider is going to give great service for that rate, I'm not going to complain.

    I'm not looking for half-hour or quick visits. That's me, and I know others are different. I don't just want to put Tab A into Slot B. I want a nice experience. And I got it.
    I am the same. I go low volume and want a low drama and low stress session and have a good time. I am fine paying for that and I don't want to try 4 providers at a slightly cheaper rate and hope one of them is a positive experience.

    Do I still look for good value? Absolutely. Do I nitpick on an extra 20 or something if I think the provider is going to provide a good experience, no. The last 2 or 3 years have been rough in general though on good providers though. I have a few regulars and AMP that I am using and hoping things improve.

  10. #27115

    Jax STG Girls Do Not Hop On Jets To LA or London

    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvoc8  [View Original Post]
    Houses can't get on a plane and fly somewhere else, girls can. Just like if salaries rise in LA for developers they will also likely rise in Jax.
    Jax is less than a million people, fine place to live and I like it here, but Jax is nothing like living in LA or NYC or London! Jax is very small-town, provincial, conservative and with one of the lowest college-educated adult base. Salaries in LA do not compare to Jax, the fact someone gets a raise in LA has absolutely no bearing on salaries or hourly wages in Jax. It is a cliche to say because one goes up the other will do the same. Again, I like Jax, I lived here 20 years and I am not putting Jax down. But, I also know what Jax is and what real cities are really like.

    As a long time monger, I have see Kass, Fancy, and zillions of providers every year on stg. Nope, I am not saying I went to dream with them, I am saying I see them day after day, week after week, moth after month, year after year, decade after decade on Jacksonville STG! Again it is cliche thinking to say Jax providers can hop on planes and fly to real cities and get high rates for their worn-out bodies and horrible services. That kind of think is what Lightning was advising against. It seems to be used as an excuse to pay Jax providers high rates because they will otherwise fly away. Such thinking just aint true. It is not reality. First, JKass and Fancy, et al do not have private jets gassed and waiting to fly them to NYC or Paris to make the big bucks. Heck, these girls do not even have cars! Second the Jax providers could hitch a ride to Miami or Tampa or Orlando if they wanted to get some bigger bucks, but the fact is they do not! These Jax girls stay in Jax. We do not have to pay high rates out of fear they will jump on a jet and fly to Paris because it just is not real to think that way. Finally, I have seen providers here and in many cities, including Amsterdam where you walk up to a window and pick a provider for 50 guilders or selecting a real fine provider in LA. These providers in Jax would get eaten up in LA and would never make even 50 dollars. We do not need to use an excuse to pay insane rates because Kass or whoever can get on a jet and fly to a top-paying city or that since salaries are higher in LA we need to pay more for local providers. Cliche or excuse thinking, that is not reality.

    What we mongers need to do is negotiate and have fun enjoying our hobby!

    Enjoy!!

  11. #27114

    Anyone TOFTT

    Thinking of pulling the trigger but the ads just seem so fake the only thing making me second guess is the mixed reviews on Latin providers. Anyone seen this one?

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ville/85952897

  12. #27113
    Quote Originally Posted by LowBaller  [View Original Post]
    Not trying to argue but I lived in the Porter Ranch area of LA (in the valley, not Beverly Hills, Brentwood, etc) and Twenty Years Ago, I sold my 1,725 sq ft house, nothing fancy, tract built, 20 years ago for $735,000. That was Twenty Years Ago. Imagine what it is worth today?

    I came to Jax and built a 3,200 sq ft house on the river in Mandarin, 112 feet on the River for a total cost of less than $500,000 the next year (which was 19 years ago).

    Prices in LA have nothing to do with Jax prices, a tract home with no view compared to a custom home, twice the size on the river and for less money on the river?

    BBBJ in LA may cost $800 for qv, but that has no bearing on what prices for a BBBJ should be in Jax.
    Houses can't get on a plane and fly somewhere else, girls can. Just like if salaries rise in LA for developers they will also likely rise in Jax.

  13. #27112
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeAdams  [View Original Post]
    So $80 for hh is OK but $180 for hr with msog is not? Did you even read this review?

    To say we don't need them is kinda funny considering we call them not the other way around. And when it is the other way there usually is big discount due to them needing something.

    That with all the other comments about being ugly and fat. Guys odds are a lot of ladies think we are ugly and fat opinions are just that. Remember we are the ones willing to pay so it is what you make it.
    This is a good point. About two weeks ago, I saw a longtime provider named Cheryl. (Here's her TER page.) https://www.theeroticreview.com/revi...302-5144-62684.

    She's older. She's not 25 (at least double that). She has a fantastic body for her age. She looked sexy as all hell. I had an incredibly lovely time. It was a full hour. No clockwatching. Clean, and beautiful lingerie. Not full GFE, but it was classy, in a clean place, and I wasn't looking for full GFE. Without getting too deep (because I plan to see her again, and I didn't ask her ahead of time about reviews), I'll say that nothing I wanted was off the menu.

    It was the perfect experience. And I had no problem with her rate. I've paid more, and I've paid less. But if a provider is going to give great service for that rate, I'm not going to complain.

    I'm not looking for half-hour or quick visits. That's me, and I know others are different. I don't just want to put Tab A into Slot B. I want a nice experience. And I got it.

  14. #27111

    About Kas

    Quote Originally Posted by PervNerd48  [View Original Post]
    There's been numerous reviews of her. At best, it's mixed. http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sear...rchid=11573471.
    Time waster for sure! Apparently, doesn't look at her phone much after she tells you to head her way. I've went to see her twice and each time she just stops answering! Waste of STG space!

  15. #27110
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackLightning  [View Original Post]
    180 for this provider? Holy cow. Guys like you are why we lost the 60 qv and 80 hh rates. I rarely pay over a 100 sonic rings for my visits. I usually do a 100. Always remember these providers need us, we don't need them.
    So $80 for hh is OK but $180 for hr with msog is not? Did you even read this review?

    To say we don't need them is kinda funny considering we call them not the other way around. And when it is the other way there usually is big discount due to them needing something.

    That with all the other comments about being ugly and fat. Guys odds are a lot of ladies think we are ugly and fat opinions are just that. Remember we are the ones willing to pay so it is what you make it.

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