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Yesterday 13:41 #5491
Posts: 112Originally Posted by Roland2418 [View Original Post]
Below I will introduce all of you to Freak's Customer Scale. On a scale of 1-10,1 being Jabba The Hutt and 10 being Superman Henry Cavill. Ask yourself where would you rank?
(1-3) You're a less than average dude. You don't even get offers or taxed extra HARD. What is a less than normal dude? Extremely overweight, old, terrible hygiene, socially awkward, dumb. You make girls' p*ssies drier than the Sahara Desert. Girls have to give themselves a mental pep talk before they straddle you.
(4-7) You're an average dude. You get normal prices and normal services. Most of us are here, hence average. Some may get extra extras or discounts here and there, but those are because you got lucky or built up enough rapport.
(8-9) You're an above average dude. You get above average offers and services, and deep discounts or occasional freebies. In shape, attractive, fun, have the gift of gab. Basically you're the guy girls want to have sex with on a girls trip or a night out with their homegirls.
(10) You're The Top G. You get the same outcomes as 8-9 dudes, but more consistent freebies and free OTC offers. I haven't experienced it myself but I've heard of girls PAYING for the guy herself to get into the VIP. Girls will ask you a variation of "Why do you even need to go to a strip club?" (A compliment.) You look better than the 8-9 dudes but have a better lifestyle, higher sexual prowess, more charisma, more masculinity. All girls want you, all dudes respect you. You make girls moist and they're competing for your attention.
Obviously there are things that are uncontrollable to get to the 10 number (facial characteristics, height, etc.) but a lot of the stuff above is controllable. A simple one is the weight; 80% of Americans are overweight. Just being not fat makes you top 20% of dudes.
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04-21-24 23:45 #5490
Posts: 63Originally Posted by SGHunter69 [View Original Post]
Now what you could do, just do standard lap dances with one you really like, build that rapport for the next visit.
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04-21-24 22:27 #5489
Posts: 203That depends. What do you look like? Kidding. Kind of. It is part of the equation. If you are bargain hunting, it won't help if you are the fattest oldest slob in the club. And bring a bit of the dumb PUA game to the negotiation. You can catch some of them in the right mood on the right slow shift. But some of these top shelf robots will not budge off their high demands regardless. You can figure out which ones fall into which category if you search through this forum.
Originally Posted by SGHunter69 [View Original Post]
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04-21-24 18:06 #5488
Posts: 25Originally Posted by SGHunter69 [View Original Post]
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04-21-24 17:56 #5487
Posts: 157Originally Posted by SGHunter69 [View Original Post]
There are probably some dancers who would do more, but not sure if they would be attractive enough to catch your attention. Maybe some of the semi-regulars could point you in the direction of a dancer or several, who are bargain friendly.
Good luck.
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04-20-24 21:12 #5486
Posts: 15What can a budget of 200 get you at COI?
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04-20-24 15:48 #5485
Posts: 295Originally Posted by XBiker [View Original Post]
SR COI instituted a new rule a little over a year ago counting how many days a girl got no vips, and if she did it enough she was automatically fired. A couple of girls were let go a the same time over this. It's worse at Synn, Paradise, and other Kim clubs where girls have to make tips so that usually means extras whether a little or a lot. Kim clubs are set up good for milking their girls and customers, the McDonald's of SCs, so they've gained market share.
So to your point there is a different kind of turnover happening and I see it mentioned in some IG stories. Some of the better strippers I know (in terms of service and looks) can't cut it, even though they'd be a perfect fit for Vegas.
You don't see the same sudden change in clubs from other states. Some clubs operate the same as ever.
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04-20-24 15:14 #5484
Posts: 141Originally Posted by PelicanT99 [View Original Post]
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04-18-24 19:32 #5483
Posts: 93Great analysis: It's the customer and the club changing.
Originally Posted by PelicanT99 [View Original Post]
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04-18-24 14:54 #5482
Posts: 4Originally Posted by FreeWally [View Original Post]
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04-18-24 09:51 #5481
Posts: 304Originally Posted by RickJamesB [View Original Post]
Old days ( 2000) Hawaii Theater & Tropical Lei set the menu, but they were more like a Cracker Barrel: cheesy, but a little "ambience" and the servers made a bit more effort because the prices were relatively high for the time. Then the Kim clubs took it down to the "gas station Wendy's" level. But then the customers changed from experienced long-haul truckers who knew the score and the proper price of Tang, into a bunch of single-mom boy-men simps who can't say no to a woman and never had a male role model teach them how to get the best deal on a used car. They were dazzled and paid what they were told to pay, and the price of poke her went up and up. So was it the Kim clubs, or was it the customers? The eternal question.
Now there's an "cynical old monger" rant for you. Get off my "carpet that doesn't match the drapes," you damn kids.
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04-16-24 22:18 #5480
Posts: 295Originally Posted by SuperFreakOMG3 [View Original Post]
Some girls are unreasonable from the start, looking for a mark who will pay ridiculous rates (I've been quoted $1000 by girls that aren't even worth $500). You don't know it until you talk to her, but the moment you realize this it is time to politely move on to a girl who isn't.
While I don't think a person should haggle over small amounts of money, what you are doing is correct and normal, what almost everyone does. Only some random new customer from out of town who is at a club the first time is going to get the hard sell with inflated prices. Because to some guy from New York, any COI price is going to sound dirt cheap compared to NY clubs where guys will spend thousands on a room. It's no different than me going to Tijuana and paying the inflated price of $80 to fuck the hottest girl there, when all the other mongers are begging me to hold the line at $60 like there is any difference to me between the two numbers. Same situation.
The trouble with getting marked by a girl and getting the hard sell, is you can't easily get out of it. If a $200 girl decides to ask you for $500, you can no longer get her down to her usual $200 without making her lose face. So I don't even bother trying. I'm not going to disrespect a girl for something like that, she's trying to make money and that's fine. I'm just not playing.
But here were talking the difference of a hundred or hundreds of dollars. So yes negotiate from a strong position. I tend to play indifferent or play dumb, ready to try the next girl. Which I am. I could spend hundreds more, I could afford it, but I won't. I have other choices and so do you.
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04-16-24 22:10 #5479
Posts: 295Originally Posted by LookingForHoe9 [View Original Post]
See the Los Angeles or OC forums for Korean BB or Asian pleaser threads. You know a girl is good if she gets pages and pages of very high reviews on TER, but TER isn't everything. Anyways, the fact is the very best kgirl and the very worst kgirl normally charge the exact same rate. The agency decides the rate. So if you find a girl you really like, you can see her over and over again as long as she's in town, no negotiation at all. But by the same token if you don't know any girls or your favorites have left town, you have to gamble and do trial and error with girls. The average kgirl service is great. BBBJ is standard and bb is often on the table if she's okay with you. You do have to get approved by the agency, and that is not something I can help with but anyone who uses HX just has to have enough network ratings to get started. I know mongers who have tried kgirls and go back to clubs, and the two main reasons are: at clubs you pick the girl, or they aren't into korean women or just want more variety. The average kgirl is older than the average stripper, but by the same token I have run into some young ones it's just not as common. And while occasional strippers like Pink have offered bb, most do not and do not even BBBJ. And it is more fun being buttnaked with a girl for a whole hour in bed and shower with full privacy, than less time in a booth and obstacles to fun. Hope that sums it up.
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04-16-24 21:21 #5478
Posts: 112Originally Posted by CumDripp [View Original Post]
Basic - Tip her at the rail when she's dancing. Toss a few 1's in front of you, when she comes by and pick up your tip chat her up and let her know where you'll be sitting so she can stop by.
Basic (my favorite) - Sit in a high-traffic area and maintain eye contact. High-traffic would be anywhere near their dressing room (both Synn and SR) or if you know what "route" they take when they walk the club. This is my preferred way of doing it. I know it sounds silly, but it makes the experience feel more organic. I also think this allows better room for negotiation on your part. It was her choice to come up to you, not the other way around. If you approached her (tip at the rail, walk up to her, have a waitress get her to you) you have showed your hand and interest in her and lost some leverage for negotiating. This is assuming you have to time kill, if not and you're in a rush I suggest doing the other methods.
Moderate - If they're on the floor and just on their phone, you can go up to them. Don't be shy or scared. If they didn't want to be bothered they'd just hang out in the dressing room or chill outside and smoke a doobie.
If they're waiting for someone, who cares, they'll let you know and keep you in mind when they're done with their customer.
As with anything, approach with respect and courtesy. That'll get you far. If you got the money they ask for or tip really well, you shouldn't have a problem. It's when you're cheap (like me, heh) or trying to haggle you'll run into problems of the girl saving you for last or ghosting you flat-out. And it makes sense, one shouldn't get upset. Why would she take you 1st when the guy offering 2 x what you're going to tip is available?
Moderate - As others have said, tip a waitress $10-$20 and tell them to have your girl sent to where you're sitting. Make sure it's a new girl or a girl you already have good standing with; I've done this with a girl who wanted nothing to do with me (that's a whole different story) = The girl avoided me and my $10 tip went poof. The waitress was avoiding me too, heh.
I understand the frustration of guys taking up your girl's time. Understand that's part of the experience. Those 5-30 minutes talking to your girl can be the difference of a few hundred bucks in negotiations, a more passionate experience in the back, warming her up to do things she doesn't normally do (extra extras or OTC stuff).
I'd use that time wisely and scope the scene. Chat up the other girls or employees. It may just be in my head, but I feel that since I'm "cool" with the employees, they give me extra time in the back, or don't rush me to leave the back once time is up. Probably just confirmation bias, who knows. Either way, doesn't cost you anything to be cool with the management.
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04-16-24 19:40 #5477
Posts: 4Originally Posted by FreeWally [View Original Post]