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Yesterday 19:32 #5483
Posts: 93Great analysis: It's the customer and the club changing.
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Yesterday 14:54 #5482
Posts: 4Originally Posted by FreeWally [View Original Post]
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Yesterday 09:51 #5481
Posts: 304Originally Posted by RickJamesB [View Original Post]
Old days ( 2000) Hawaii Theater & Tropical Lei set the menu, but they were more like a Cracker Barrel: cheesy, but a little "ambience" and the servers made a bit more effort because the prices were relatively high for the time. Then the Kim clubs took it down to the "gas station Wendy's" level. But then the customers changed from experienced long-haul truckers who knew the score and the proper price of Tang, into a bunch of single-mom boy-men simps who can't say no to a woman and never had a male role model teach them how to get the best deal on a used car. They were dazzled and paid what they were told to pay, and the price of poke her went up and up. So was it the Kim clubs, or was it the customers? The eternal question.
Now there's an "cynical old monger" rant for you. Get off my "carpet that doesn't match the drapes," you damn kids.
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04-16-24 22:18 #5480
Posts: 270Originally Posted by SuperFreakOMG3 [View Original Post]
Some girls are unreasonable from the start, looking for a mark who will pay ridiculous rates (I've been quoted $1000 by girls that aren't even worth $500). You don't know it until you talk to her, but the moment you realize this it is time to politely move on to a girl who isn't.
While I don't think a person should haggle over small amounts of money, what you are doing is correct and normal, what almost everyone does. Only some random new customer from out of town who is at a club the first time is going to get the hard sell with inflated prices. Because to some guy from New York, any COI price is going to sound dirt cheap compared to NY clubs where guys will spend thousands on a room. It's no different than me going to Tijuana and paying the inflated price of $80 to fuck the hottest girl there, when all the other mongers are begging me to hold the line at $60 like there is any difference to me between the two numbers. Same situation.
The trouble with getting marked by a girl and getting the hard sell, is you can't easily get out of it. If a $200 girl decides to ask you for $500, you can no longer get her down to her usual $200 without making her lose face. So I don't even bother trying. I'm not going to disrespect a girl for something like that, she's trying to make money and that's fine. I'm just not playing.
But here were talking the difference of a hundred or hundreds of dollars. So yes negotiate from a strong position. I tend to play indifferent or play dumb, ready to try the next girl. Which I am. I could spend hundreds more, I could afford it, but I won't. I have other choices and so do you.
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04-16-24 22:10 #5479
Posts: 270Originally Posted by LookingForHoe9 [View Original Post]
See the Los Angeles or OC forums for Korean BB or Asian pleaser threads. You know a girl is good if she gets pages and pages of very high reviews on TER, but TER isn't everything. Anyways, the fact is the very best kgirl and the very worst kgirl normally charge the exact same rate. The agency decides the rate. So if you find a girl you really like, you can see her over and over again as long as she's in town, no negotiation at all. But by the same token if you don't know any girls or your favorites have left town, you have to gamble and do trial and error with girls. The average kgirl service is great. BBBJ is standard and bb is often on the table if she's okay with you. You do have to get approved by the agency, and that is not something I can help with but anyone who uses HX just has to have enough network ratings to get started. I know mongers who have tried kgirls and go back to clubs, and the two main reasons are: at clubs you pick the girl, or they aren't into korean women or just want more variety. The average kgirl is older than the average stripper, but by the same token I have run into some young ones it's just not as common. And while occasional strippers like Pink have offered bb, most do not and do not even BBBJ. And it is more fun being buttnaked with a girl for a whole hour in bed and shower with full privacy, than less time in a booth and obstacles to fun. Hope that sums it up.
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04-16-24 21:21 #5478
Posts: 111Originally Posted by CumDripp [View Original Post]
Basic - Tip her at the rail when she's dancing. Toss a few 1's in front of you, when she comes by and pick up your tip chat her up and let her know where you'll be sitting so she can stop by.
Basic (my favorite) - Sit in a high-traffic area and maintain eye contact. High-traffic would be anywhere near their dressing room (both Synn and SR) or if you know what "route" they take when they walk the club. This is my preferred way of doing it. I know it sounds silly, but it makes the experience feel more organic. I also think this allows better room for negotiation on your part. It was her choice to come up to you, not the other way around. If you approached her (tip at the rail, walk up to her, have a waitress get her to you) you have showed your hand and interest in her and lost some leverage for negotiating. This is assuming you have to time kill, if not and you're in a rush I suggest doing the other methods.
Moderate - If they're on the floor and just on their phone, you can go up to them. Don't be shy or scared. If they didn't want to be bothered they'd just hang out in the dressing room or chill outside and smoke a doobie.
If they're waiting for someone, who cares, they'll let you know and keep you in mind when they're done with their customer.
As with anything, approach with respect and courtesy. That'll get you far. If you got the money they ask for or tip really well, you shouldn't have a problem. It's when you're cheap (like me, heh) or trying to haggle you'll run into problems of the girl saving you for last or ghosting you flat-out. And it makes sense, one shouldn't get upset. Why would she take you 1st when the guy offering 2 x what you're going to tip is available?
Moderate - As others have said, tip a waitress $10-$20 and tell them to have your girl sent to where you're sitting. Make sure it's a new girl or a girl you already have good standing with; I've done this with a girl who wanted nothing to do with me (that's a whole different story) = The girl avoided me and my $10 tip went poof. The waitress was avoiding me too, heh.
I understand the frustration of guys taking up your girl's time. Understand that's part of the experience. Those 5-30 minutes talking to your girl can be the difference of a few hundred bucks in negotiations, a more passionate experience in the back, warming her up to do things she doesn't normally do (extra extras or OTC stuff).
I'd use that time wisely and scope the scene. Chat up the other girls or employees. It may just be in my head, but I feel that since I'm "cool" with the employees, they give me extra time in the back, or don't rush me to leave the back once time is up. Probably just confirmation bias, who knows. Either way, doesn't cost you anything to be cool with the management.
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04-16-24 19:40 #5477
Posts: 4Originally Posted by FreeWally [View Original Post]
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04-16-24 18:13 #5476
Posts: 270Originally Posted by Bones69 [View Original Post]
Next visit I see Diamond who has a great attitude on stage, and when she stopped by I took her for the 2 lap dance special, and I usually start slow but she dropped her top and grabbed my hands and put them on her boobs right away. It was a wonderful dance, better than 90% of girls among the COI clubs, so I was happy enough to have just that and call it a night. I still remember it. I don't tip every girl but I tipped her $40 because she deserved it and I can tell she doesn't hold back or have GPS - GPS girls will just try to get more if you do that. She mentioned a room and I hesitated because maybe it's too good to be true and she was the very first girl I saw on stage, so I said I needed some time. Other girls came on stage, they weren't as good, and so I walked up to Diamond and said I'm ready for the room. Turned out even better than expected. She only asked for $200, so to my point I can tip a girl like Diamond first and she doesn't just upsell me in response, especially since I initially said no to a room. I was ready to walk if she wasn't reasonable, since Shay (Synn) and Mona (SR) both quoted $200 and I don't need sex that much.
I haven't tried this route enough as I said but so far it's been good. It does take a bit more time, but it is more cost effective and safe to use Bone's strategy. This has many advantages in that you can cut things off at different points in time if you see it's not going to work out. Make sure you do. Do not fixate on a girl before she delivers the goods, be ready to walk always.
I must confess I was planning on going COI soon but I can't, because a particular kgirl showed up today. She is hotter than Cora and BBBJ with bb, she loves to fuck, and I can fuck her for an hour twice in a week and still have money left over compared to Cora. She said in the shower she loves my cock and I am going to book her again when I recover, until she leaves town. So maybe in May or June I'll be in COI. Have fun!
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04-16-24 18:01 #5475
Posts: 270Originally Posted by CocaCvs [View Original Post]
If you go on a busy night like Thursday, sometimes Friday or Saturday (but often not), other people will be tipping at the rail. On Thursdays it can get crazy because guys will tip when they see other guys tip. But this is COI and unlike every other area in Socal there are more nights when nobody is tipping on stage for a long time, or just tipping for exactly one girl they like then leaving the tip rail. Especially Synn. So it is not hard at all to communicate that you are interested. I tip a middle amount like $10 if I want her to come over, not too much or little. I only tip $20 and over for stage if I DON'T want her to go VIP (ex. If I already took her to VIP and just want to show appreciation afterwards), because that is not going to help me in negotiations.
I've gone clubs a lot over 20 years and it simply does not matter who tips more, if all you do is tell a girl you want to see her. If the other guy doesn't, she's yours. It doesn't matter what mental gymnastics he's doing or where he's standing or how he looks at her, he isn't going to see her for a whole hour as I take her back and give her a good thorough fucking.
90% of the time I see a guy making it rain, $40 to $100, he does not take her back. He doesn't want to. He is there to show appreciation. Same with me, I only tip extra for stage after I've fucked a girl because then it can't backfire with GPS. It is true appreciation. In all the times I've seen it and also asked the girl to give me a dance, exactly zero times has she said no the guy who made it rain is getting a dance with her. Zero. In 20 years. When some guy has already asked her for a dance before I did, it is often a guy that didn't throw even one dollar but still had the balls to sit at the rail. Or a few dollars, most of the rest of the time.
Getting a girl's attention to come to you before you even talk is an important thing if you're just not sure about which girl you want or really want to feel out multiple girls, but at COI once you have an idea you should cut to the chase and talk to her yourself. Always be prepared to walk and move on to the next girl if she isn't going to show you a good time or for the right price. That's all there is to it. At other clubs outside COI when I want to just talk to girls then sure, I need them to approach me first so eye contact and such matters. But COI is mainly for fucking not talking. And again, a few words when she is on stage means everything (at the end when she meets each person, or some girls just go up to you and say hi during stage). It works way better than the alternatives. I understand wanting to be elusive and non-committal for negotiations but you can do that by asking her to stop by and saying you wanted to meet her and find out if you should take her back.
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04-16-24 14:14 #5474
Posts: 2Kassy
Also anyone know or see Kassy on the roll call at Synn COI. She was my favorite a she usually leaves every months a returns. This time she seems gone for good. Anyone know if she's at a different club?
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04-16-24 14:12 #5473
Posts: 2Approaching Strippers
To add to this discussion. I never sit around and wait. If there's a girl I want, I buy my drink right when I walk in an I tell the waitress to grab the girl I want. I usually give the waiters 10-20 bucks to grab the girl I want.
Then when the girl arrives I ask for a lap dance immediately. An while the dance is going I discuss extras in the VIP. I don't like sitting down talking to a girl, a lot of these girls come from rough backgrounds I don't want to pick their brain in the slightest. Plus they'll lie aloe of the times when your just talking. The less I know about them the better. In my mind it's all business and I waste no time. If the dance is good and seems relaxed I'll take her to VIP. If it's an air dance or doesn't allow touching or says this is extra etc. I cut the dance short an repeat the process.
Also if you're looking for a new girl I wouldn't go on a Thursday night or any weekend night. Day shifts a week nights are the time to approach new girls. Once you become a regular an get their number then you can set something up on a busy night.
Just my opinion.
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04-16-24 13:58 #5472
Posts: 68Originally Posted by CumDripp [View Original Post]
If you're shy, you can tip her on stage to get her attention, and maybe ask a waitress to bring her to you. Sometimes you have to be proactive. I know it's nice when girls come up to you, but it seems like girls at Synn are easily discouraged by a one or two rejections.
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04-16-24 13:34 #5471
Posts: 10Originally Posted by CumDripp [View Original Post]
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04-16-24 03:25 #5470
Posts: 62Originally Posted by CumDripp [View Original Post]
Regarding the one you want, I had times were I felt I wasnt standing in the right spot and see them walk the opposite way and get scooped up by someone else and by the time you see them available, the night is over. It happens. I'll try to toss a few bucks on stage when I see them which helps when they walk the floor.
But I feel you, I live an hour away so I have to plan it out if I head out. If I don't get any of the ones I want, I'd rather have just stayed home and rubbed one out. No good clubs in the IE.
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04-16-24 02:45 #5469
Posts: 270Originally Posted by CumDripp [View Original Post]
COI clubs are not for talking, but SR is the best for that if you are dead set on it. You also have to avoid the busiest days and hours. My first time ever to SR in COI was on a Monday, and only 3 girls were working. I was the ONLY customer. The girls were just fooling around, climbing the poles and going upside down for practice. They didn't even notice I was there sitting in the front couch. It did not even seem like a strip club since there was no music, just 3 girls practicing. Between the three girls I decided who I liked and when I saw she was near the edge of the stage I walked up and said if she had time I'd like to meet her. We hit it off right away, and we had nonstop fun fucking in VIP for 40 minutes (I extended) and then chatting on the floor for an hour. This is not the typical experience but the point is do not be afraid to approach the girl you like because someone else will grab her. Her own regular came in later so it would have happened. But some nobody like me had her for almost 2 hours. Who cares if her regular is looking for her, she is a grown woman and you just can ASK her. Yes is great. No is also great because you saved yourself a whole lot of time and wondering. Don't wonder.
If you are sure about a girl, just talk to her. Otherwise she might never know you exist because she most girls don't talk to a lot of guys, they'll talk to 3 guys, including guys they recognize, and go back. One time I got a $100 VIP at SR with a new girl, and said I'll take a break but might get a room with her later. She goes on stage, and there is a customer who puts $3 on the stage and when she approaches she just puts his hand on her and whispers something to her. It was creepy already but what he said to her, she was disgusted and waved her hands saying no way. Okay, that's odd. After stage she actually approaches him again asking if he wants a dance, and apparently he said he won't take her unless she is going to fuck. She walks off looking upset and goes straight for the back room, so I get up and quickly catch her right before and ask her for a dance. We continued our fun there and could take it to the next level. She was Savannah. She only approached one customer and it wasn't even me, because she needed a break after getting rejected. Lots of girls do. The lesson is do not count on a girl approaching you. Even girls I have spent thousands on before will not necessarily approach me if I just show up, lots of reasons. I am just a customer.
I know they must exist but I have never seen a whale in 20 visits. I do see a ton of people being super cheap instead, especially at Synn. It is quite the opposite in COI. Whales are more a thing in LA.
Next, I would recommend against locking onto a girl on roll call or fixate on a girl you see but haven't yet talked to. This puts you in a weaker position to have a happy ending. And there is an important rule that you need to talk to a girl and feel her out on the floor, that she gives you good vibes on the floor, before ever taking her back. Or it's a recipe for probably a mediocre experience. I've written pages and pages about this and won't elaborate other than you need to be ready to move on if you talk to a girl and feel red flags or can't agree on what you want. Not to mention it is hard to negotiate with a girl unless you are ready to walk. Candy gives free extras even in the 2 for 2, but she will quote 600 or more for whoever she thinks can pay. That difference comes down to your negotiating position and mindset. If you can just let go of any obsessions, you will not be that guy to them. You should be there to have fun, but not at any cost. There's literally another club in walking distance.
Lastly, you get your turn when you decide it. Don't wait around for me to take your girl. I am not a whale. I am a nobody who just parked my car and saw your girl and talked to her. And if I don't like her after talking with her and seeing her attitude, you can have her. But don't make up your mind until you have actually met her. Stage is meant to preview girls and get a free and close look. Synn is so silly because I am the only guy consistently watching and tipping stage, but then I can pick the girl I like after. That's how I met Diamond. She went right up to me after because after, and all I did watch her with my face between her legs tossing some ones, and I was the only guy doing that. I didn't have to say a word.