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  1. #5481
    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesB  [View Original Post]
    This is all my opinion:

    After mongering since 2002, I think the Kim Club model has ruined the strip club experience for me....Kim clubs seem to have industrialized getting a nut during a lap dance....They've "99 cents only" the experience.....
    Very true, although I view it more as a "fast food" experience: over 3 million customer served that same burger that's cranked out for everyone, sometimes it's hot and sometimes it's not, sometime the server doesn't give a shit, sometimes there's rat turds, etc. But it's convenient, and it is -- or at least was -- relatively cheap; and sometimes it's just what you need, want, and have enough time to get. And that's why fast food is so popular.

    Old days ( 2000) Hawaii Theater & Tropical Lei set the menu, but they were more like a Cracker Barrel: cheesy, but a little "ambience" and the servers made a bit more effort because the prices were relatively high for the time. Then the Kim clubs took it down to the "gas station Wendy's" level. But then the customers changed from experienced long-haul truckers who knew the score and the proper price of Tang, into a bunch of single-mom boy-men simps who can't say no to a woman and never had a male role model teach them how to get the best deal on a used car. They were dazzled and paid what they were told to pay, and the price of poke her went up and up. So was it the Kim clubs, or was it the customers? The eternal question.

    Now there's an "cynical old monger" rant for you. Get off my "carpet that doesn't match the drapes," you damn kids.

  2. #5480
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFreakOMG3  [View Original Post]
    As with anything, approach with respect and courtesy. That'll get you far. If you got the money they ask for or tip really well, you shouldn't have a problem. It's when you're cheap (like me, heh) or trying to haggle you'll run into problems of the girl saving you for last or ghosting you flat-out. And it makes sense, one shouldn't get upset. Why would she take you 1st when the guy offering 2 x what you're going to tip is available?
    You make great points and I want to add to this. Generally if a girl gets an offer, she takes it or doesn't. If two guys are offering acceptable deals, she takes both. One after the other. You are not competing against someone who is physically there making an offer at the same time, because she would have taken the other offer if it was any good. The only thing is she may have a minimum $$ amount in her mind she won't usually go below (for many girls its 100-200, for GPS it's much higher). But if your deal is good she'll just take it on the spot. Your job is to get a good deal without knowing what her limit actually is, and without making her think your limit is much higher (even if it is).

    Some girls are unreasonable from the start, looking for a mark who will pay ridiculous rates (I've been quoted $1000 by girls that aren't even worth $500). You don't know it until you talk to her, but the moment you realize this it is time to politely move on to a girl who isn't.

    While I don't think a person should haggle over small amounts of money, what you are doing is correct and normal, what almost everyone does. Only some random new customer from out of town who is at a club the first time is going to get the hard sell with inflated prices. Because to some guy from New York, any COI price is going to sound dirt cheap compared to NY clubs where guys will spend thousands on a room. It's no different than me going to Tijuana and paying the inflated price of $80 to fuck the hottest girl there, when all the other mongers are begging me to hold the line at $60 like there is any difference to me between the two numbers. Same situation.

    The trouble with getting marked by a girl and getting the hard sell, is you can't easily get out of it. If a $200 girl decides to ask you for $500, you can no longer get her down to her usual $200 without making her lose face. So I don't even bother trying. I'm not going to disrespect a girl for something like that, she's trying to make money and that's fine. I'm just not playing.

    But here were talking the difference of a hundred or hundreds of dollars. So yes negotiate from a strong position. I tend to play indifferent or play dumb, ready to try the next girl. Which I am. I could spend hundreds more, I could afford it, but I won't. I have other choices and so do you.

  3. #5479
    Quote Originally Posted by LookingForHoe9  [View Original Post]
    Hotter AND cheaper than Cora? Sounds too good to be true haha. Mind if I private message you for some details about Kgirls? I'm new to this scene.
    It is hard to recommend one over the other since they're different and I keep switching. I spent 10 years on clubs, 4 years on kgirls, then 2 years on clubs including COI, and now back to a 2 year streak with mainly kgirls again. COI was a great break from seeing mainly Koreans, where I could meet young fit white girls like Stormy, sex addicted girls that love to fuck nonstop like Melanine. Even crazier girls like Pink who offered bb despite also trying for baby among other crazier facts.. But while you can get really far at COI clubs, you don't quite get full service with things like shower preview, consistent BBBJ, etc. So I'll summarize best as I can.

    See the Los Angeles or OC forums for Korean BB or Asian pleaser threads. You know a girl is good if she gets pages and pages of very high reviews on TER, but TER isn't everything. Anyways, the fact is the very best kgirl and the very worst kgirl normally charge the exact same rate. The agency decides the rate. So if you find a girl you really like, you can see her over and over again as long as she's in town, no negotiation at all. But by the same token if you don't know any girls or your favorites have left town, you have to gamble and do trial and error with girls. The average kgirl service is great. BBBJ is standard and bb is often on the table if she's okay with you. You do have to get approved by the agency, and that is not something I can help with but anyone who uses HX just has to have enough network ratings to get started. I know mongers who have tried kgirls and go back to clubs, and the two main reasons are: at clubs you pick the girl, or they aren't into korean women or just want more variety. The average kgirl is older than the average stripper, but by the same token I have run into some young ones it's just not as common. And while occasional strippers like Pink have offered bb, most do not and do not even BBBJ. And it is more fun being buttnaked with a girl for a whole hour in bed and shower with full privacy, than less time in a booth and obstacles to fun. Hope that sums it up.

  4. #5478
    Quote Originally Posted by CumDripp  [View Original Post]

    Any of you guys have any tips for getting girls, like do you just straight up wait at the exit of the dancer room and pick them up,(sometimes they have scheduled appts with whales) what if they are sitting in the VIP / high roller couches on side (Synn) will you walk up to them and ask for a dance. (Sometimes hard to know if girl is waiting for someone or willing to just do lap dances during a given night).

    Just not sure how some of why'all whales / deep pocket guys spend like 20-30 min talking to a dancer. Like come on and spread the love a bit.
    Methods to get a new girl's attention:

    Basic - Tip her at the rail when she's dancing. Toss a few 1's in front of you, when she comes by and pick up your tip chat her up and let her know where you'll be sitting so she can stop by.

    Basic (my favorite) - Sit in a high-traffic area and maintain eye contact. High-traffic would be anywhere near their dressing room (both Synn and SR) or if you know what "route" they take when they walk the club. This is my preferred way of doing it. I know it sounds silly, but it makes the experience feel more organic. I also think this allows better room for negotiation on your part. It was her choice to come up to you, not the other way around. If you approached her (tip at the rail, walk up to her, have a waitress get her to you) you have showed your hand and interest in her and lost some leverage for negotiating. This is assuming you have to time kill, if not and you're in a rush I suggest doing the other methods.

    Moderate - If they're on the floor and just on their phone, you can go up to them. Don't be shy or scared. If they didn't want to be bothered they'd just hang out in the dressing room or chill outside and smoke a doobie.

    If they're waiting for someone, who cares, they'll let you know and keep you in mind when they're done with their customer.

    As with anything, approach with respect and courtesy. That'll get you far. If you got the money they ask for or tip really well, you shouldn't have a problem. It's when you're cheap (like me, heh) or trying to haggle you'll run into problems of the girl saving you for last or ghosting you flat-out. And it makes sense, one shouldn't get upset. Why would she take you 1st when the guy offering 2 x what you're going to tip is available?

    Moderate - As others have said, tip a waitress $10-$20 and tell them to have your girl sent to where you're sitting. Make sure it's a new girl or a girl you already have good standing with; I've done this with a girl who wanted nothing to do with me (that's a whole different story) = The girl avoided me and my $10 tip went poof. The waitress was avoiding me too, heh.

    I understand the frustration of guys taking up your girl's time. Understand that's part of the experience. Those 5-30 minutes talking to your girl can be the difference of a few hundred bucks in negotiations, a more passionate experience in the back, warming her up to do things she doesn't normally do (extra extras or OTC stuff).

    I'd use that time wisely and scope the scene. Chat up the other girls or employees. It may just be in my head, but I feel that since I'm "cool" with the employees, they give me extra time in the back, or don't rush me to leave the back once time is up. Probably just confirmation bias, who knows. Either way, doesn't cost you anything to be cool with the management.

  5. #5477
    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWally  [View Original Post]
    This is a good strategy and did work well for me, I don't try it enough. I was new to Synn so when I saw Kaylani on stage I tipped her and she came over, so I took her to get just a lap dance to figure her out. She wasn't any good and asked for a $20 just to touch her AT ALL (yes you read that right), on top of the lap dance cost. See the problem is I spend $20,000 on girls a year and $20 is nothing to me. But this here is her telling me she is not a good value, she is GPS and will charge me a premium without any guarantee of being good. It is the only way to have a bad time, to have a girl charge you a lot and disappoint you because she wasted your night. It isn't about just the money but it makes it worse. In any case, so far I see she is not good at all, despite having a cute body and having waved her pussy at me happily on stage just 10 minutes ago for $3. I could ask to fuck her, I have the money, but at this point I don't want to because I have better places to be like SR. Whatever, I'm not going to say anything, I just played dumb and said thank you and when she asked about a room I said I'm new here and I'm about to go to another club so no thanks. I went to SR and had a much better time. I wrote about this experience if you scroll about a year back.
    Hotter AND cheaper than Cora? Sounds too good to be true haha. Mind if I private message you for some details about Kgirls? I'm new to this scene.

  6. #5476
    Quote Originally Posted by Bones69  [View Original Post]
    To add to this discussion. I never sit around and wait. If there's a girl I want, I buy my drink right when I walk in an I tell the waitress to grab the girl I want. I usually give the waiters 10-20 bucks to grab the girl I want.

    Then when the girl arrives I ask for a lap dance immediately. An while the dance is going I discuss extras in the VIP. I don't like sitting down talking to a girl, a lot of these girls come from rough backgrounds I don't want to pick their brain in the slightest. Plus they'll lie aloe of the times when your just talking. The less I know about them the better. In my mind it's all business and I waste no time. If the dance is good and seems relaxed I'll take her to VIP. If it's an air dance or doesn't allow touching or says this is extra etc. I cut the dance short an repeat the process.
    This is a good strategy and did work well for me, I don't try it enough. I was new to Synn so when I saw Kaylani on stage I tipped her and she came over, so I took her to get just a lap dance to figure her out. She wasn't any good and asked for a $20 just to touch her AT ALL (yes you read that right), on top of the lap dance cost. See the problem is I spend $20,000 on girls a year and $20 is nothing to me. But this here is her telling me she is not a good value, she is GPS and will charge me a premium without any guarantee of being good. It is the only way to have a bad time, to have a girl charge you a lot and disappoint you because she wasted your night. It isn't about just the money but it makes it worse. In any case, so far I see she is not good at all, despite having a cute body and having waved her pussy at me happily on stage just 10 minutes ago for $3. I could ask to fuck her, I have the money, but at this point I don't want to because I have better places to be like SR. Whatever, I'm not going to say anything, I just played dumb and said thank you and when she asked about a room I said I'm new here and I'm about to go to another club so no thanks. I went to SR and had a much better time. I wrote about this experience if you scroll about a year back.

    Next visit I see Diamond who has a great attitude on stage, and when she stopped by I took her for the 2 lap dance special, and I usually start slow but she dropped her top and grabbed my hands and put them on her boobs right away. It was a wonderful dance, better than 90% of girls among the COI clubs, so I was happy enough to have just that and call it a night. I still remember it. I don't tip every girl but I tipped her $40 because she deserved it and I can tell she doesn't hold back or have GPS - GPS girls will just try to get more if you do that. She mentioned a room and I hesitated because maybe it's too good to be true and she was the very first girl I saw on stage, so I said I needed some time. Other girls came on stage, they weren't as good, and so I walked up to Diamond and said I'm ready for the room. Turned out even better than expected. She only asked for $200, so to my point I can tip a girl like Diamond first and she doesn't just upsell me in response, especially since I initially said no to a room. I was ready to walk if she wasn't reasonable, since Shay (Synn) and Mona (SR) both quoted $200 and I don't need sex that much.

    I haven't tried this route enough as I said but so far it's been good. It does take a bit more time, but it is more cost effective and safe to use Bone's strategy. This has many advantages in that you can cut things off at different points in time if you see it's not going to work out. Make sure you do. Do not fixate on a girl before she delivers the goods, be ready to walk always.

    I must confess I was planning on going COI soon but I can't, because a particular kgirl showed up today. She is hotter than Cora and BBBJ with bb, she loves to fuck, and I can fuck her for an hour twice in a week and still have money left over compared to Cora. She said in the shower she loves my cock and I am going to book her again when I recover, until she leaves town. So maybe in May or June I'll be in COI. Have fun!

  7. #5475
    Quote Originally Posted by CocaCvs  [View Original Post]
    Sitting at the tip rail helps. Give her a generous tip on stage. However, I have done that and the girl ignores me when she goes for her rounds. I find out that she's having a bad week and getting rejected so much that after their stage dance, if they ask one or two people for a dance they're already discouraged, and quit asking before they get to me unless I mentioned something during their stage dance about talking afterwards.
    Every club is different but at SR and Synn COI if you sit a the tip rail she will probably say hi and I would mention then to stop by if she has time. Sometimes she has already promised someone a dance so that is the best way. The other reason is some dancers just aren't into me and I'd rather they skip me if that's going to be the case. I'm Asian and it's rarely a problem but I'd rather nip it in the bud if she just doesn't want to do a dance for me, no harm no foul. Most girls will stop by and then you know they're 100% available and willing, which checks off the first box. Then you find out if you and her are going to get along if you take her back. Don't take her back if she doesn't feel right.

    If you go on a busy night like Thursday, sometimes Friday or Saturday (but often not), other people will be tipping at the rail. On Thursdays it can get crazy because guys will tip when they see other guys tip. But this is COI and unlike every other area in Socal there are more nights when nobody is tipping on stage for a long time, or just tipping for exactly one girl they like then leaving the tip rail. Especially Synn. So it is not hard at all to communicate that you are interested. I tip a middle amount like $10 if I want her to come over, not too much or little. I only tip $20 and over for stage if I DON'T want her to go VIP (ex. If I already took her to VIP and just want to show appreciation afterwards), because that is not going to help me in negotiations.

    I've gone clubs a lot over 20 years and it simply does not matter who tips more, if all you do is tell a girl you want to see her. If the other guy doesn't, she's yours. It doesn't matter what mental gymnastics he's doing or where he's standing or how he looks at her, he isn't going to see her for a whole hour as I take her back and give her a good thorough fucking.

    90% of the time I see a guy making it rain, $40 to $100, he does not take her back. He doesn't want to. He is there to show appreciation. Same with me, I only tip extra for stage after I've fucked a girl because then it can't backfire with GPS. It is true appreciation. In all the times I've seen it and also asked the girl to give me a dance, exactly zero times has she said no the guy who made it rain is getting a dance with her. Zero. In 20 years. When some guy has already asked her for a dance before I did, it is often a guy that didn't throw even one dollar but still had the balls to sit at the rail. Or a few dollars, most of the rest of the time.

    Getting a girl's attention to come to you before you even talk is an important thing if you're just not sure about which girl you want or really want to feel out multiple girls, but at COI once you have an idea you should cut to the chase and talk to her yourself. Always be prepared to walk and move on to the next girl if she isn't going to show you a good time or for the right price. That's all there is to it. At other clubs outside COI when I want to just talk to girls then sure, I need them to approach me first so eye contact and such matters. But COI is mainly for fucking not talking. And again, a few words when she is on stage means everything (at the end when she meets each person, or some girls just go up to you and say hi during stage). It works way better than the alternatives. I understand wanting to be elusive and non-committal for negotiations but you can do that by asking her to stop by and saying you wanted to meet her and find out if you should take her back.

  8. #5474

    Kassy

    Also anyone know or see Kassy on the roll call at Synn COI. She was my favorite a she usually leaves every months a returns. This time she seems gone for good. Anyone know if she's at a different club?

  9. #5473

    Approaching Strippers

    To add to this discussion. I never sit around and wait. If there's a girl I want, I buy my drink right when I walk in an I tell the waitress to grab the girl I want. I usually give the waiters 10-20 bucks to grab the girl I want.

    Then when the girl arrives I ask for a lap dance immediately. An while the dance is going I discuss extras in the VIP. I don't like sitting down talking to a girl, a lot of these girls come from rough backgrounds I don't want to pick their brain in the slightest. Plus they'll lie aloe of the times when your just talking. The less I know about them the better. In my mind it's all business and I waste no time. If the dance is good and seems relaxed I'll take her to VIP. If it's an air dance or doesn't allow touching or says this is extra etc. I cut the dance short an repeat the process.

    Also if you're looking for a new girl I wouldn't go on a Thursday night or any weekend night. Day shifts a week nights are the time to approach new girls. Once you become a regular an get their number then you can set something up on a busy night.

    Just my opinion.

  10. #5472
    Quote Originally Posted by CumDripp  [View Original Post]
    Not sure how many of why'all look at roll call before going in and how many girls you decide are hot enough or not before entering. But it sucks when you have your eyes on a girl and then the girls always seem to be busy and you end up wasting too much time waiting around.

    For example say you get there maybe the girl is in the back for say 20 min, comes out to meet a whale. They can chat for while sometimes they buy them a drink so 30 min goes by, then he decides to get a special lap dance 3 songs and then after decides to go VIP and then sometimes, especially on Thursdays there is a wait for VIP so them waiting in line until next 15 min VIP session is ready. And after, the girl has to freshen up because obviously you don't want to go with a girl that is sweaty and icky from the VIP customer. So she goes in the back for say another 20 min. And then you finally say now is your chance. But then say there is another whale waiting for her, or say now she has to go and do a stage dance.

    Also I feel like doing club roll calls is huge, not sure why management doesn't do them as often sometimes, as guys are able to see everyone available and gets the girls from the back out. There can be 10-15 guys just sitting around, obviously they are looking for some girl or trying to get a dance of some sort because that's the reason they are there.

    Sorry if lengthy, (just felt like over past few months have wasted too much time waiting to get a dance from a girl that you might want to try and think are hot) it just feels like maybe before going to a club you need to have various options available and not set your eyes on getting a dance with just one girl because you can waste a lot of time just waiting. But to be honest these clubs only have say 10% of the dancers on a given shift are attractive in the sense willing to get a dance with them, tbh in my opinion at least 50% of the dancers on any given night probably hard pass.

    Any of you guys have any tips for getting girls, like do you just straight up wait at the exit of the dancer room and pick them up,(sometimes they have scheduled appts with whales) what if they are sitting in the VIP / high roller couches on side (Synn) will you walk up to them and ask for a dance. (Sometimes hard to know if girl is waiting for someone or willing to just do lap dances during a given night).

    Just not sure how some of why'all whales / deep pocket guys spend like 20-30 min talking to a dancer. Like come on and spread the love a bit.
    Sitting at the tip rail helps. Give her a generous tip on stage. However, I have done that and the girl ignores me when she goes for her rounds. I find out that she's having a bad week and getting rejected so much that after their stage dance, if they ask one or two people for a dance they're already discouraged, and quit asking before they get to me unless I mentioned something during their stage dance about talking afterwards.

    If you're shy, you can tip her on stage to get her attention, and maybe ask a waitress to bring her to you. Sometimes you have to be proactive. I know it's nice when girls come up to you, but it seems like girls at Synn are easily discouraged by a one or two rejections.

  11. #5471
    Quote Originally Posted by CumDripp  [View Original Post]
    Not sure how many of why'all look at roll call before going in and how many girls you decide are hot enough or not before entering. But it sucks when you have your eyes on a girl and then the girls always seem to be busy and you end up wasting too much time waiting around.

    For example say you get there maybe the girl is in the back for say 20 min, comes out to meet a whale. They can chat for while sometimes they buy them a drink so 30 min goes by, then he decides to get a special lap dance 3 songs and then after decides to go VIP and then sometimes, especially on Thursdays there is a wait for VIP so them waiting in line until next 15 min VIP session is ready. And after, the girl has to freshen up because obviously you don't want to go with a girl that is sweaty and icky from the VIP customer. So she goes in the back for say another 20 min. And then you finally say now is your chance. But then say there is another whale waiting for her, or say now she has to go and do a stage dance.

    Also I feel like doing club roll calls is huge, not sure why management doesn't do them as often sometimes, as guys are able to see everyone available and gets the girls from the back out. There can be 10-15 guys just sitting around, obviously they are looking for some girl or trying to get a dance of some sort because that's the reason they are there.
    When I go, I check the roll call and see how many I'm interested in. If there's at least 5, I'll head to the club. If the girl I like the most of the handful I like isn't on the floor, I usually ask the waitress if she's available. I throw a couple dollars so they usually go to the locker room and check. I also ask the the ones who log the dances if she's available. If she's busy, I go to the next. During this time, I get lucky from time to time and one of the girls come on stage. Tipping on stage doesn't have to be what it looks like on tv. If a few guys put a dollar or two on stage, I'll throw 20. If a guy comes back and tips more (they usually don't), I'll sit back down and wait to see if my next pick comes up. You never know, that girl might circle back because the other tipper just wanted a lapdance or wasted her time. When a girl sits down and I'm not interested, I politely decline. If it's one of the few I like, I get straight to the point. If her price is reasonable, we head to the back. If not, I'm prepared to leave. I haven't had a visit where all of the girls I wanted were busy or quoting crazy rates. You have to have a plan and strategize. A girl at your club of choice is popular for a reason.

  12. #5470
    Quote Originally Posted by CumDripp  [View Original Post]
    Not sure how many of why'all look at roll call before going in and how many girls you decide are hot enough or not before entering. But it sucks when you have your eyes on a girl and then the girls always seem to be busy and you end up wasting too much time waiting around.
    I try to keep 2-3 other girls in mind. I know it can be exciting to watch a girl on rollcall and maybe come across their socials, which then leads to fantasy mindset "Dammm yeah I want her". (for me its the young petite girls with minimal to no tattoos). A few times I made it to the parking lot and look at the roll call and think "damn no one here I want" LOL. But yeah I try to have a backup in mind.

    Regarding the one you want, I had times were I felt I wasnt standing in the right spot and see them walk the opposite way and get scooped up by someone else and by the time you see them available, the night is over. It happens. I'll try to toss a few bucks on stage when I see them which helps when they walk the floor.

    But I feel you, I live an hour away so I have to plan it out if I head out. If I don't get any of the ones I want, I'd rather have just stayed home and rubbed one out. No good clubs in the IE.

  13. #5469
    Quote Originally Posted by CumDripp  [View Original Post]
    Not sure how many of why'all look at roll call before going in and how many girls you decide are hot enough or not before entering. But it sucks when you have your eyes on a girl and then the girls always seem to be busy and you end up wasting too much time waiting around.
    This is just my advice from 20 years experience, I will tell a story for each point.

    COI clubs are not for talking, but SR is the best for that if you are dead set on it. You also have to avoid the busiest days and hours. My first time ever to SR in COI was on a Monday, and only 3 girls were working. I was the ONLY customer. The girls were just fooling around, climbing the poles and going upside down for practice. They didn't even notice I was there sitting in the front couch. It did not even seem like a strip club since there was no music, just 3 girls practicing. Between the three girls I decided who I liked and when I saw she was near the edge of the stage I walked up and said if she had time I'd like to meet her. We hit it off right away, and we had nonstop fun fucking in VIP for 40 minutes (I extended) and then chatting on the floor for an hour. This is not the typical experience but the point is do not be afraid to approach the girl you like because someone else will grab her. Her own regular came in later so it would have happened. But some nobody like me had her for almost 2 hours. Who cares if her regular is looking for her, she is a grown woman and you just can ASK her. Yes is great. No is also great because you saved yourself a whole lot of time and wondering. Don't wonder.

    If you are sure about a girl, just talk to her. Otherwise she might never know you exist because she most girls don't talk to a lot of guys, they'll talk to 3 guys, including guys they recognize, and go back. One time I got a $100 VIP at SR with a new girl, and said I'll take a break but might get a room with her later. She goes on stage, and there is a customer who puts $3 on the stage and when she approaches she just puts his hand on her and whispers something to her. It was creepy already but what he said to her, she was disgusted and waved her hands saying no way. Okay, that's odd. After stage she actually approaches him again asking if he wants a dance, and apparently he said he won't take her unless she is going to fuck. She walks off looking upset and goes straight for the back room, so I get up and quickly catch her right before and ask her for a dance. We continued our fun there and could take it to the next level. She was Savannah. She only approached one customer and it wasn't even me, because she needed a break after getting rejected. Lots of girls do. The lesson is do not count on a girl approaching you. Even girls I have spent thousands on before will not necessarily approach me if I just show up, lots of reasons. I am just a customer.

    I know they must exist but I have never seen a whale in 20 visits. I do see a ton of people being super cheap instead, especially at Synn. It is quite the opposite in COI. Whales are more a thing in LA.

    Next, I would recommend against locking onto a girl on roll call or fixate on a girl you see but haven't yet talked to. This puts you in a weaker position to have a happy ending. And there is an important rule that you need to talk to a girl and feel her out on the floor, that she gives you good vibes on the floor, before ever taking her back. Or it's a recipe for probably a mediocre experience. I've written pages and pages about this and won't elaborate other than you need to be ready to move on if you talk to a girl and feel red flags or can't agree on what you want. Not to mention it is hard to negotiate with a girl unless you are ready to walk. Candy gives free extras even in the 2 for 2, but she will quote 600 or more for whoever she thinks can pay. That difference comes down to your negotiating position and mindset. If you can just let go of any obsessions, you will not be that guy to them. You should be there to have fun, but not at any cost. There's literally another club in walking distance.

    Lastly, you get your turn when you decide it. Don't wait around for me to take your girl. I am not a whale. I am a nobody who just parked my car and saw your girl and talked to her. And if I don't like her after talking with her and seeing her attitude, you can have her. But don't make up your mind until you have actually met her. Stage is meant to preview girls and get a free and close look. Synn is so silly because I am the only guy consistently watching and tipping stage, but then I can pick the girl I like after. That's how I met Diamond. She went right up to me after because after, and all I did watch her with my face between her legs tossing some ones, and I was the only guy doing that. I didn't have to say a word.

  14. #5468

    Small Rant for Whales / Conversationalists

    Not sure how many of why'all look at roll call before going in and how many girls you decide are hot enough or not before entering. But it sucks when you have your eyes on a girl and then the girls always seem to be busy and you end up wasting too much time waiting around.

    For example say you get there maybe the girl is in the back for say 20 min, comes out to meet a whale. They can chat for while sometimes they buy them a drink so 30 min goes by, then he decides to get a special lap dance 3 songs and then after decides to go VIP and then sometimes, especially on Thursdays there is a wait for VIP so them waiting in line until next 15 min VIP session is ready. And after, the girl has to freshen up because obviously you don't want to go with a girl that is sweaty and icky from the VIP customer. So she goes in the back for say another 20 min. And then you finally say now is your chance. But then say there is another whale waiting for her, or say now she has to go and do a stage dance.

    Also I feel like doing club roll calls is huge, not sure why management doesn't do them as often sometimes, as guys are able to see everyone available and gets the girls from the back out. There can be 10-15 guys just sitting around, obviously they are looking for some girl or trying to get a dance of some sort because that's the reason they are there.

    Sorry if lengthy, (just felt like over past few months have wasted too much time waiting to get a dance from a girl that you might want to try and think are hot) it just feels like maybe before going to a club you need to have various options available and not set your eyes on getting a dance with just one girl because you can waste a lot of time just waiting. But to be honest these clubs only have say 10% of the dancers on a given shift are attractive in the sense willing to get a dance with them, tbh in my opinion at least 50% of the dancers on any given night probably hard pass.

    Any of you guys have any tips for getting girls, like do you just straight up wait at the exit of the dancer room and pick them up,(sometimes they have scheduled appts with whales) what if they are sitting in the VIP / high roller couches on side (Synn) will you walk up to them and ask for a dance. (Sometimes hard to know if girl is waiting for someone or willing to just do lap dances during a given night).

    Just not sure how some of why'all whales / deep pocket guys spend like 20-30 min talking to a dancer. Like come on and spread the love a bit.

  15. #5467
    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyX  [View Original Post]
    The Synn I G suggests that the dancer Syx used to be a waitress, though I don't recognize her from the pic (her face is hidden). I was wondering what are peoples' experiences with waitresses turned dancer. A woman who makes that move obviously does it because she sees how much more the dancers make. Given that are they likely to go full extras from the get go? The only time I can remember dancing with a former waitress was at Synn right before the pandemic. This little spinner gave a a really intense lap dance and strongly hinted that everything was on the table but then disappeared so I never got to take her for a spin.
    I think it's the newish black girl they hired maybe 4 months back. Nice girl. Although I wish it was the tan Latina waitress with the cute smile.

    I wouldn't extrapolate too much from the switch in occupations; as Mr. Wally states she's just another stripper now. Most do extras, some don't. Some are good, some are bad, ultimately you got to find out for yourself.

    I wonder if some of you remember but the small blonde Synn manager used to strip at the Rhino years ago. Elizabeth I think?

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