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Originally Posted by LostInDetroit
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As someone who has been stopped by cops MULTIPLE TIMES, the only time I have ever identified myself is during a traffic stop. However, in other instances where a cop is stopping me on the street or as I am leaving a place they might be looking at, I never identify myself. That's not resisting. That's knowing my rights and my rights are that I don't have to identify myself UNLESS I am being detained or arrested. Also, now days with cops all having to wear body cams, there's literally nothing they can do that is outside of the law, and they know it. The get caught doing something they shouldn't then they open themselves and their fellow officers in for a world of hurt (losing jobs, bans and in some instances jail time). If you think you might be in danger or they pull a gun on you or something then ok fine, identify yourself. But they ain't doing that shit, especially in situations like this where they're busting up rub and tugs. But I don't play these cops games of "oh if you identify who you are I can let you go. " Nah, fuck that.
Also, the "if you're innocent it's best to cooperate" line is police propaganda. It's the reason why in your miranda rights it says "anything you say or do can be used AGAINST YOU in a court of law". There is nothing and I REPEAT NOTHING in those rights that says anything you say or do can be used to help you in your defense. I've heard countless stories from my ex who told me that really and I do mean REALLY innocent people ended up saying stuff to cops because either they're nervous or whatever and the cops ended up twisting that shit so much to make someone who was truly innocent getting arrested for something dumb (even when they did nothing legally wrong). If you're cool with rolling those dice and just surrendering your rights or complying for whatever reason especially if you think you're innocent, so be it. But I'm telling you from my personal experiences, compliance only gets you in more trouble because cops are trained to treat everyone as a suspect. So why give them anything they can hold over your head? Is that really helping you?
Like I said, I'm not an attorney so don't take my word as gospel or as legal advice. I'm just going off my own experiences and what my ex told me who still is an attorney to this day.
While you may not be an attorney. You advice is great. The best thing when dealing with police is stay calm and collected.
Regards,
H19.
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Appreciate Your Comments, but I disagree
Originally Posted by Tommy101
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People that get killed by the police almost always have one thing in common. "RESISTANCE". If a cop has stopped you and ask for your I. D then you should probably give it to them. Arguing your rights and being combative leads down a dark road. If your innocent its always best to cooperate if you have something to hide, they will almost always know it. Their lead questions are designed to lead them in a direction.
As someone who has been stopped by cops MULTIPLE TIMES, the only time I have ever identified myself is during a traffic stop. However, in other instances where a cop is stopping me on the street or as I am leaving a place they might be looking at, I never identify myself. That's not resisting. That's knowing my rights and my rights are that I don't have to identify myself UNLESS I am being detained or arrested. Also, now days with cops all having to wear body cams, there's literally nothing they can do that is outside of the law, and they know it. The get caught doing something they shouldn't then they open themselves and their fellow officers in for a world of hurt (losing jobs, bans and in some instances jail time). If you think you might be in danger or they pull a gun on you or something then ok fine, identify yourself. But they ain't doing that shit, especially in situations like this where they're busting up rub and tugs. But I don't play these cops games of "oh if you identify who you are I can let you go. " Nah, fuck that.
Also, the "if you're innocent it's best to cooperate" line is police propaganda. It's the reason why in your miranda rights it says "anything you say or do can be used AGAINST YOU in a court of law". There is nothing and I REPEAT NOTHING in those rights that says anything you say or do can be used to help you in your defense. I've heard countless stories from my ex who told me that really and I do mean REALLY innocent people ended up saying stuff to cops because either they're nervous or whatever and the cops ended up twisting that shit so much to make someone who was truly innocent getting arrested for something dumb (even when they did nothing legally wrong). If you're cool with rolling those dice and just surrendering your rights or complying for whatever reason especially if you think you're innocent, so be it. But I'm telling you from my personal experiences, compliance only gets you in more trouble because cops are trained to treat everyone as a suspect. So why give them anything they can hold over your head? Is that really helping you?
Like I said, I'm not an attorney so don't take my word as gospel or as legal advice. I'm just going off my own experiences and what my ex told me who still is an attorney to this day.
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No advice for the innocent
Originally Posted by HeeJunk
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No one on this board is looking for advice "if they are innocent".
I'm not trying to advise the innocent only the guilty.
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Bella
I drive by almost daily, yellow stickers on the windows and still closed. Sounds like the city wants to shut them down permanently.
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Wellness massage spa. Warren
Anyone know why they've been closed. Pretty sure this place was legit. Been a couple times, great massages but no sign of extras. So why have they been closed for at least a week now? Phones shut off, the open lights were on but all locked up, now they're off.
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Goldstar
Don't go to Goldstar on a Saturday night around 8 pm. I usually go during the day and it's not so busy. I basicly walked in and another guy was following me through the door. Mama took me in the room and said we are busy, you want shower? I said yes, and she replied "a little while", she took the $80 and left. Over 30 minutes later "uoweme", seriously prononounced "you Owe Me" came in and took me to the shower. She is very pretty and has a decent body, but the shower was pretty rushed. We got back to the room, no maasage, just aquick body slide, then the request to turn over. Quick CBJ and right to the main event. Finished up, warm towel and a bottle of water and out the door. So, I was there an hour but most of the time was waiting. Under different circumstances, she might be a good time. I will not be going back during the high traffic times.
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Lara vs google
Originally Posted by IAmNotMe
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I googled Green Rose Spa and this popped up
No spa
(248) 757-9673
https://g.co/kgs/PeCB8j9
Link isn't working. I tried to delete this post but it wouldn't delete. When I googled Green Rose Spa, a link to a spa named "No Spa" popped up with All Green address and phone number. I must've copied the link wrong because it's not working.
Googlemaps shows green rose health spa as permanently closed.
Michigan Lara shows different resident agents, but that doesn't mean the owners are different. Regardless, both green rose and All Green appear to be closed.
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Originally Posted by MisterPaul
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If you check the Michigan Lara Corporations page, you can see the registered owner of any licensed business. All Green Healing is NOT registered to the same person as Green Rose. People that post here should check their facts before spreading rumors.
I googled Green Rose Spa and this popped up
No spa
(248) 757-9673
https://g.co/kgs/PeCB8j9
Link isn't working. I tried to delete this post but it wouldn't delete. When I googled Green Rose Spa, a link to a spa named "No Spa" popped up with All Green address and phone number. I must've copied the link wrong because it's not working.
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Originally Posted by HeeJunk
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Your best odds would be AM Healing on metro parkway.
I'll give it shot.
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Help a monger out
Do we have a spot with consistent 20-40 year old attendants? FS preferred but I'll take a 25 year old pretty handshake any day. I notice most reviews don't have an age estimate and I have not had luck finding under 40 attendants with extras. Any help would be appreciated. Also any Latina spots?
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A M healing
Originally Posted by JustAGuy33
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I'll be sterling Heights later today. Is there any FS in the area? With all the places being busy / being possibly watched. I was just wondering if there's any. I know few jack shacks but I don't know if there's any FS in the area.
Your best odds would be AM Healing on metro parkway.
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Quick question
I'll be sterling Heights later today. Is there any FS in the area? With all the places being busy / being possibly watched. I was just wondering if there's any. I know few jack shacks but I don't know if there's any FS in the area.
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Originally Posted by SandersNut
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I think she would have been raved about if so. She had the most amazing body I have had. Seriously flawless skin, ass was really perfect, bolt ons were perfect c / d cup. Model type waist. Beautiful face, I was in heaven in my session with her. She would have been the talk of town once he word got out. I popped once doggy, then again from oral. And I was spent but she was still ready for more. She is from Dallas and that's where she said she was going back to. She said that was her first day at all green but I didn't ask if she had worked at another local spa.
They were getting some hotties there towards the end. Interesting about Dallas. When Melon in Toledo was still open and had the previous owner, they used to get their K-Girls from Dallas and they were talented hotties too.
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Originally Posted by Tommy101
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People that get killed by the police almost always have one thing in common. "RESISTANCE". If a cop has stopped you and ask for your I. D then you should probably give it to them. Arguing your rights and being combative leads down a dark road. If your innocent its always best to cooperate if you have something to hide, they will almost always know it. Their lead questions are designed to lead them in a direction.
No one on this board is looking for advice "if they are innocent".
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Disagree / agree
Originally Posted by LostInDetroit
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I posted about this the last time another facility got popped and I feel like I have to share this PSA every time this shit happens.
Guys, if you are EVER talking to cops. DON'T! Follow this script:
1) When being detained / stopped / propositioned by police you say: "Why are holding me here / stopping me / etc?" . They have to tell you why, otherwise it's illegal.
2) If they start asking questions about what you're doing there or where you're going or even who you are; you say "I'm not discussing my day / identifying myself to you. " The laws in Michigan clearly state that you do not have to identify yourself to a police officer UNLESS you are being arrested. Don't tell them or disclose SHIT! They're counting on you to volunteer info to incriminate yourself.
3) If they keep asking questions (or you just want to leave and know they don't have shit on you (because odds are they don't)); you say "Am I being detained, or am I free to go? They have to answer that question BY LAW otherwise it's illegal and can be considered entrapment.
4) If they say you are free to go, say nothing else and GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE. If they say you are being detained; you say this "At this time I invoke my 5th amendment rights". You have to say this phrase specifically because then cops know they cannot ask you any other questions, full stop.
People that get killed by the police almost always have one thing in common. "RESISTANCE". If a cop has stopped you and ask for your I. D then you should probably give it to them. Arguing your rights and being combative leads down a dark road. If your innocent its always best to cooperate if you have something to hide, they will almost always know it. Their lead questions are designed to lead them in a direction.
Now with that said I do agree with you on "DETENTION". Once detained, absolutely do not say a thing. Never admit to anything in the lead up investigation either. This does not just apply to mongering it applies to life in general. I have been stopped and questioned before right after a date. When asked why I was at the local massage place I just said I have a bad back. Every time they asked, they would ask differently but the truth is always the same, so yeah say nothing and admit nothing and deny everything. But never resist that will get your ass kicked or killed no matter your skin color. I'm white and I've had a cop beat my ass back in the 80's. I drove on a suspended license and was speeding was all I did. Well besides run my mouth to him about my rights.
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