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  1. #14358

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by CarlossPicYw  [View Original Post]
    Bartering is great if it doesn't involve you giving out personal information to a provider. Bringing her to your place of work gives her WAYYYYY too much information about you. If she's unhappy with the service, you've got a much bigger problem on your hands than just an angry customer. If you could do work at her place or bring something to her, it's a different story, but bringing her to your place of business is a terrible idea.
    Thanks, I appreciate your opinion. You confirmed my initial gut response. I'll steer clear of that situation.

  2. #14357
    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyVrx  [View Original Post]
    Question for all. A few weeks ago I tried a new provider. We talked for a while about what I do. She asked if we could barder services. In my line of work this is not uncommon. In order to do that I would need her to come to my place of business. Has anyone on the forum ever traded services with providers before? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for no charge massage's and HE's but I'm unsure if that's really something I want to open myself up to. Any opinions? Thanks so much.
    Bartering is great if it doesn't involve you giving out personal information to a provider. Bringing her to your place of work gives her WAYYYYY too much information about you. If she's unhappy with the service, you've got a much bigger problem on your hands than just an angry customer. If you could do work at her place or bring something to her, it's a different story, but bringing her to your place of business is a terrible idea.

  3. #14356

    Bartering.

    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyVrx  [View Original Post]
    Question for all. A few weeks ago I tried a new provider. We talked for a while about what I do. She asked if we could barder services. In my line of work this is not uncommon. In order to do that I would need her to come to my place of business. Has anyone on the forum ever traded services with providers before? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for no charge massage's and HE's but I'm unsure if that's really something I want to open myself up to. Any opinions? Thanks so much.
    While I wouldn't have a problem bartering, I do it all the time, I would be a bit hesitant to have a provider come to my place of employment. (I'm actually retired so it doesn't count) I have bartered Jewelry several times over the years, as gold and silversmithing is a hobby of mine, to various providers with no problems.

    I think bartering with a provider that comes to your place of business could be problematic, especially if she goes 'off the rails' at some point, or a jealous boy friend / handler steps into the picture wanting some.

  4. #14355

    Dash Camera

    Quote Originally Posted by HungaryMan  [View Original Post]
    What brand dashcam did you go with?
    I have the Rove R24 k. Cheap camera but awesome resolution and for $100 it was well worth the money.

    I also have the ausdom AD282 for the other car, I love that one because it has a Gshock sensor so when the camera falls asleep if you shake the cat or touch it the camera is activated. A dash cam is like a cell phone or Google maps. Can't imagine life without it.

  5. #14354

    Alice spa 26 mile

    Any one ever try Alice spa on 26 mile / Romeo plank? I work near on occasion and would love to know if any fellow movers have given it a try.

  6. #14353
    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyVrx  [View Original Post]
    Had a visit with Heather the other day and was a little disappointed to say the least. I was looking forward to it. She's young, blonde and american. A nice change of pace. The massage was mediocre at best, just a quick rub down, not a lot of teasing and only lasted 15-20 min. I started to rub her ass as she stood at the head of the bed, she moaned a bit and asked me to turn over. Cut a long story short, she went straight to town on junior with no prompting. She undressed upon request and let me roam (she really gets into FIV). She asked if I wanted more, but I declined. I was happy with just a simple HJ at this point, although she did help me pop x2. Based on her actions I'm sure much more is available is interested. All of this took about 20 min. This is were the disappointment comes in. She cleaned her self up and lay a warm wet towel over junior and proceeded to complain to me about her life for the next 20 min. I laid there, under the towel, as she sat next to me and complained about her life, problems with her health, her ex, her kids, her job. You name it. Apparently the massage was over and it was time to chat. She finished getting dressed and the clock hit 1 hour. She told me I was all set, so I climbed off the table, paid my house fee along with. 6 tip and left. She's a nice girl but I will never repeat with her.

    This was my first experience at Saigon. I'll still return to experience the other providers, just not Heather. Thanks all.
    God damn you popped 2 x in 15-20 min LOL.

  7. #14352

    Dashcam

    Quote Originally Posted by RWhite  [View Original Post]
    I went back to review my dashcam after seeing this post. I started backing in her driveway now.

    When this neigbor issue first happened I ordered a dashcam from Amazon. Yes the neighbor is still out there when I went to review my camera however they were just pacing back and forth for a minute at the end of the driveway but never approached onto the driveway. Before I would park further down then walk up but noticed on camera neighbor remembered my car and walked down and made a call on their cell phone but nothing materialized from that so just beware of that pesky neighbor.
    What brand dashcam did you go with?

  8. #14351

    Bardering for services?

    Question for all. A few weeks ago I tried a new provider. We talked for a while about what I do. She asked if we could barder services. In my line of work this is not uncommon. In order to do that I would need her to come to my place of business. Has anyone on the forum ever traded services with providers before? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for no charge massage's and HE's but I'm unsure if that's really something I want to open myself up to. Any opinions? Thanks so much.

  9. #14350

    Heather at Saigon

    Had a visit with Heather the other day and was a little disappointed to say the least. I was looking forward to it. She's young, blonde and american. A nice change of pace. The massage was mediocre at best, just a quick rub down, not a lot of teasing and only lasted 15-20 min. I started to rub her ass as she stood at the head of the bed, she moaned a bit and asked me to turn over. Cut a long story short, she went straight to town on junior with no prompting. She undressed upon request and let me roam (she really gets into FIV). She asked if I wanted more, but I declined. I was happy with just a simple HJ at this point, although she did help me pop x2. Based on her actions I'm sure much more is available is interested. All of this took about 20 min. This is were the disappointment comes in. She cleaned her self up and lay a warm wet towel over junior and proceeded to complain to me about her life for the next 20 min. I laid there, under the towel, as she sat next to me and complained about her life, problems with her health, her ex, her kids, her job. You name it. Apparently the massage was over and it was time to chat. She finished getting dressed and the clock hit 1 hour. She told me I was all set, so I climbed off the table, paid my house fee along with. 6 tip and left. She's a nice girl but I will never repeat with her.

    This was my first experience at Saigon. I'll still return to experience the other providers, just not Heather. Thanks all.

  10. #14349
    Quote Originally Posted by SandersNut  [View Original Post]
    Now that's interesting. She is worth scouting. I recommend you TOFTT and report back. That rate should definitely include HE, I can't wait to read your report.

    SN.
    If you guys would have did a search for her on here you would see that that place is a joke and a waste of money.

  11. #14348
    Quote Originally Posted by RWhite  [View Original Post]
    I went back to review my dashcam after seeing this post. I started backing in her driveway now.

    When this neigbor issue first happened I ordered a dashcam from Amazon. Yes the neighbor is still out there when I went to review my camera however they were just pacing back and forth for a minute at the end of the driveway but never approached onto the driveway. Before I would park further down then walk up but noticed on camera neighbor remembered my car and walked down and made a call on their cell phone but nothing materialized from that so just beware of that pesky neighbor.
    Nosey Neighbors typically will create drama with other neighbors so I would be very cautious. You never know what kind of exaggerated stories they will come up with. I remember several years ago visiting Vivian at her condo, (Warren or Roseville.) Vivian mentioned that the neighbors were wondering why there was a lot of folks going over and leaving her place. She began to provide you with a large "empty" envelope, so when you left it appeared she was doing some admin work out of her place. That was my last visit, nosey neighbors can be an issue, just my POV. Stay safe.

  12. #14347

    Miranda

    Quote Originally Posted by YetAnotherGuy  [View Original Post]
    https://www.massagefinder.com/massage-therapists/38011/

    To me the multiple glamour shot ad screams extras, or else she wants you to think so to get you in the door. Anyone tried?
    Now that's interesting. She is worth scouting. I recommend you TOFTT and report back. That rate should definitely include HE, I can't wait to read your report.

    SN.

  13. #14346

    Any chance for extras with Miranda, you think?

    https://www.massagefinder.com/massage-therapists/38011/

    To me the multiple glamour shot ad screams extras, or else she wants you to think so to get you in the door. Anyone tried?

  14. #14345

    Massage Breeze

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeQanaby  [View Original Post]
    Has anybody seen her since the whole neighbor monitoring cars kerfuffle a month or so ago?
    I went back to review my dashcam after seeing this post. I started backing in her driveway now.

    When this neigbor issue first happened I ordered a dashcam from Amazon. Yes the neighbor is still out there when I went to review my camera however they were just pacing back and forth for a minute at the end of the driveway but never approached onto the driveway. Before I would park further down then walk up but noticed on camera neighbor remembered my car and walked down and made a call on their cell phone but nothing materialized from that so just beware of that pesky neighbor.

  15. #14344

    Thanks for this post

    Quote Originally Posted by DodgeOmni  [View Original Post]
    I think this is the last related post I saw on this topic. If I missed later replies, apologies.

    First, I've been frustrated for so long by the confusion between Asian Spring (Long Lake and Dequindre; I'll call them "East") and Spring Massage (South Blvd and Crooks; I'll call them "West".

    It's so easy to get crossed up, especially when Google (erroneously) lists West's website in its results for both the East and West. Perhaps they are owned by the same folks and the confusion is intentional to make sure you land at one of their properties. East has definitely been shut down. I went there last night and found the doors locked and a post on the door indicating City of Troy had closed them due to violations. I did some Google searching and very quickly found some news stories from a few days ago that they had been busted, apparently last Friday (7/19).

    Street's initial inquiry (from 7/14) precedes that date, and he has clarified that he was asking about West. I don't know their status. I'm not finding any news stories specific to them, but perhaps the name similarity is clouding the search results.

    I have visited both places many times (about twice a month so far this year) and had HE at both. I've been visiting East (confirmed closed) for a couple years. They had better ambiance but getting an uninterrupted session was impossible (regardless of day or time; yes, I visited that often). It was my most frequent place to visit because the outcome was a sure thing, so I tolerated the constant interruptions. I just discovered West last Fall; less frilly than East, but a friendlier attitude. I'd say 50% of my visits there have "gotten the job done. ".

    I assume all providers in Troy are going to be on edge for a while based on last Friday's events.
    I was literally leaving work today to head over to "East" when I read this post. So thanks for the clarification. However I'm so disappointed they closed. I went there 2 months ago on a whim, despite the very few reviews I could find said it's DIY. Much to my surprise the girl was fine with me rubbing her ass during the massage, gave some great teasing, and had zero problem finishing me off at the end. Even asked how I like it. Slow, fast, lotion, etc. I went back 2 times since and each time had a different girl but same service level. So it really sucks to hear they're closed. Really great UTR joint.

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