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  1. #20226

    Down river lady

    After a year of reading reviews about how fun she was, I was finally able to get her to see me. All I can say is. Never again. I've read all the reviews, I expected her to be a bit older, and a little chubby, but I was still in for a surprise.

    She looks like she's the oldest I've had, and that's counting Sunny's and M1. The gut was a "I had multiple kids" not "I got a bit soft with age.

    To her credit, the massage was good, and the body slide was interesting. She does look younger and good from the back. But I paid $$ and didn't get to finish on the table before the shower. She took me in there and she did try with a very toothy and shallow BJ (y'all need some better standards, everyone seemed to have about them) before she gave up and took me back out to the table where I was finished with a good HJ and kinda forced to daty.

    Will not repeat. Feel like I wasted $$.

  2. #20225

    Sarah Waterford

    Quote Originally Posted by HungInOhio65  [View Original Post]
    Can you help me find out more info on Sarah from Waterford? Website?

    Thanks.
    Would also appreciate her info. I've seen her ad popup before but understand she is more UTR now.

    Pm please.

  3. #20224

    House fees and tips

    Quote Originally Posted by HungaryMan  [View Original Post]
    I do believe many on here would agree that paying 130 is overpaying. Just my 2 cents.
    I have to agree. I have a couple of ladies who I've become very friendly with who work inside these places. From what I know, the ladies get 40-50% of the house fee plus their tip. So if you are tipping them at 40-50 and they are getting another 30 from the house, $80 for and hours work is far too much. Stop tipping $50. Even if it's a solid massage and HE with allowed roaming, they are happy with 30-40 tip. I'm told this from the ladies them selves. Those who ask for more, in my experience, have provided the worst service, were detached / distracted or rushed, and then they stand there with their hand out at the end. But $130-140 for a handy when you can get full PSE or GFE not too far away in Jackson or Toledo for $180-200, seems like a no brainer.

    All you are doing is setting expectations ridiculously high and making them think they get something for nothing. $80 house fees are too high to begin with (although the $65 amount you see common in the Lansing area never made sense to me either. Make it $60 or $70).

    For what we are getting, $100-110 total should be the standard. Lady is still making at least $60.

  4. #20223

    Bella Touch

    Recently went back to Bella Touch. It happened to be insanely busy. Joy wasn't available. Hannah wasn't available. Drew the older lady. She She maybe? Waited in the room 20 minutes, then mama came back in and said she would have to start the massage. She massaged me for about 15 minutes until She She came in. Mama's phone was ringing off the hook, and she had it connected to a Bluetooth speaker that made the ringing insanely loud. People kept ringing the doorbell, too. Some old dude who sounded like he has Alzheimer's kept asking "Where's Hannah?" over and over. Mama answered her phone while in the room with me, and the monger on the other end kept trying to ask what time they closed. Mama absolutely could not understand. Geez.

    I got the standard finish for 100 total, but it was the least relaxed I've ever been there. Comical, almost. Better to go right after they open, I think.

    Be careful out there.

  5. #20222

    130 total

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowDancer36  [View Original Post]
    Empire Spa next to a yoga studio. 3. 5 out of 5 on the massage. $80 bucks for an hour. Friendly HJ at the end. Didn't have to ask. Tipped $50. She said she would remember me and take more time with me next time. Maybe other stuff on the table? I'll do an update next go around.
    I do believe many on here would agree that paying 130 is overpaying. Just my 2 cents.

  6. #20221

    SWB in Sterling Heights

    What the hell. Just visited SWB for the first time in a while and the doors were all off. Wished I checked here before going. Totally ruined the exchanges I have with the girls and laughs, then it's impossible to relax during the massage while some monger is bitching about waiting 10-15', how expensive it is for an hour, then one guy came back in after waiting in his truck complaining that someone who choose to wait in the lobby area was taken back in front of him. Total nightmare. No privacy. Ruined both the fun and relaxation. The girls told me the owner took the doors off. They weren't very chatty like they usually act. They were whispering like they didn't want the owner to hear them talk about the entire situation.

    So, I guess it's time to find someone doing UTR massages at their own place. I would love to find someone that gives a professional massage with extras. Doesn't need to be FS. I've met a couple girls off SA but that's an entirely different vibe and financial investment. Feel free to PM with your favorite masseuse. I can always offer recommendations or reviews as well. Thanks.

  7. #20220

    Yekk

    She is a middle aged overweight Asian hippie.

    She will remember you because no one ever gave her a fifty before LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowDancer36  [View Original Post]
    Empire Spa next to a yoga studio. 3. 5 out of 5 on the massage. $80 bucks for an hour. Friendly HJ at the end. Didn't have to ask. Tipped $50. She said she would remember me and take more time with me next time. Maybe other stuff on the table? I'll do an update next go around.

  8. #20219
    Quote Originally Posted by Jp1225  [View Original Post]
    My forth visit here in the past couple months. 2 older ladies were there (LeeLee or Lili and Amy). Massage started with Lili. She's probably 60, not pretty but not bad either. She was very playful and gave a lot of attention to rear and under carriage. I heard the other lady come in. They talk in Chinese but she was showing me off to her. She had me flip and Amy stayed. BexMe a 4 hand massage (without requesting) and they took turns going to work. Amy is more attractive and much better body. Both allowed UTC roaming and a lot of play including prostate. Strong powerful finish. Cleaned up. Then when didn't the last 15-20 minutes on my head neck shoulders other worked my feet and legs.

    My experience with the older ones is they are much better at their craft and eager to please. Definitely not as sexy as the young ones but the young ones are usually distracted or short you in time and you can tell are just not into it. These ladies could work and went over on my time.

    Now as I normally go there with the usual 60 house 40 tip I was not prepared for what ended up being a 30 minute 4 hand massage. All I had was another $20 with me. So I asked them to split the 60 tip. 120 total damage. They didn't seem upset and didn't ask for more but ideally I would have at least given another $20.

    So if you are not stuck on having someone younger? I'd recommend these ladies (one or both). They really did a great massage and knew how to give a proper handshake!
    I do remember them, been some time though. One with bit plump body other more towards lean side. I don't remember the names or who is who. Both were eager to please and never clock watchers.

  9. #20218

    Madison

    Quote Originally Posted by DA9988  [View Original Post]
    I have seen Madison recently, and experienced the same visit the first time, but returned for full service at a later date. I hate to say its not worth it for 250 no BJ at all offered and its not very sensual or exotic. You can get a duo with Lisa and Bonita cheaper than a full service visit with her and that visit is more fun just without full service.
    I totally agree, perfect description of events. She won't do BBBJ and won't CBJ because of the smell / taste. CFS is useless as she is not flexible and has issues so only one position. Totally disappointed and complete waste!!

  10. #20217

    Looks good

    Hey guys, anyone have any intel?

    She looks good, but probably legit.

    https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/b...280423996.html

    Thanks.

  11. #20216

    Centerline Spot

    Empire Spa next to a yoga studio. 3. 5 out of 5 on the massage. $80 bucks for an hour. Friendly HJ at the end. Didn't have to ask. Tipped $50. She said she would remember me and take more time with me next time. Maybe other stuff on the table? I'll do an update next go around.

  12. #20215
    Quote Originally Posted by Lamarr  [View Original Post]
    There were hints of issues with Jen. Anyone? PM is fine.
    Saw her 2 weeks ago. She hard to get a hold of.

  13. #20214
    Quote Originally Posted by SpasRhealing  [View Original Post]
    I've seen Jen a few weeks ago. It's all good no issues no neighbors.
    There were hints of issues with Jen. Anyone? PM is fine.

  14. #20213

    Avoid!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fasted2010  [View Original Post]
    Sounds totally legit. Hasn't been anything of any worth to mongers in Keego or Waterford since they closed down all the AMPs 7 or 8 years ago.
    Yeah, I was there just as COVID started. The pic of the Persian looking chick was taken 50 lbs ago at least, and it was a terrible experience. Huge cans, but they never came out, and no extras. She is not a Massage therapist, the rub was awful, and she basically just smeared expensive goops on me and tried to upsell me on her various "high end" creams etc.

    Total waste of time.

  15. #20212
    Seen her pre COVID-19, totally legitimate, toftt.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrettChase  [View Original Post]
    Hey All,

    Anyone been here before? It is in my area, which is rare, may check it out.

    https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/b...279401941.html

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