I don't blame providers for wanting deposits either; many of them have been stiffed on payment before. Your last sentence is key to your approach: Women who are genuine are those who can be trusted, and I have to admit that I do break my own rule with women I trust. But I have known these women for a long time, and have seen them regularly throughout; our relationships are more FWB than SW / client. They do me favors, and I "help with the bills". But it takes many repeat visits before that level of comfort and trust is achieved.
I've had this with many. The more you do, the more they are 'friend zoning' you and you're asking for trouble.
Can it continue? Yeah, sure, but you are forever friend zone and the 'new guy' is forever a potential multimillionaire Chad who will sweep them away.
Never, ever, ever.
I spoke to one about how hard it is to even get new regs who will do any sort validating. But, I also have experience with many that they will bend those rules in a heartbeat, while what they'll do to 'friends' who complain about how badly they're treated for advancing funds, taking them out, etc. , is nightmarish. Never treat it as anything but a transaction and never advance.
Oh, I completely agree with you, Papa Be. I've made that mistake a few years ago, too, with escorts who I saw for more than two years. Not that they refused service or failed to show; but yes, a couple of times, service was delayed by errands until my free time was exhausted, or service was minimal or perfunctory, or they "forget" that I paid in advance and need another payment.
The UTR girls I see currently are more trustworthy, and have never asked for or expected payment in advance.
White Knight clear out your mailbox and message me please.
Its down for me too. But I have VPN so it could be that.
On a side note, I've noticed it's poor search results lately. Seems like it's missing about 50% of all posts. It's certainly been lacking in its scraping ability lately.
Damn, looks like sumosear. Ch is down and has been all day.
Hope it doesn't disappear b / c I use it all the time to look out for scams.
Sumosearch is working fine for me too. I've got an android using Firefox and no problems so far. Possibly an ISP or Apple blocking the connection for some reason.
I agree it's been going downhill though as far as postings though.
Damn, looks like sumosear. Ch is down and has been all day.
Hope it doesn't disappear b / c I use it all the time to look out for scams.
Its down for me too. But I have VPN so it could be that.
On a side note, I've noticed it's poor search results lately. Seems like it's missing about 50% of all posts. It's certainly been lacking in its scraping ability lately.
I posted a similar question in SW REPORTS forum. I don't want to show license info, or use credit card. A user there said the Redford Hotel on Telegraph does not require license I'd. If I ever try it I'll report about it.
For other motels. I guess one could buy a pre paid VISA with cash, and use that to pay for the room, but, still need to avoid leaving drives license info.
I haven't had any luck not showing a driver's license to get the room. For booking, I use dayuse.com. Depending on the hotel, I have been able to give them the card for incidentals and tell them not to swipe it as I will pay cash when I check out. Its been 99% effective. Although onetime a new employee ran it by mistake and the checkout procedure was a about 30 minutes longer than I wanted it to be. It was a work card so I fared ok. A pre-paid visa should work.
I just don't want my license copied, or to even print my name, DL number on a hotel's registration card at the hotel. (Or give car's plate number). I just don't like the idea of a paper trail, and want a way around it.
Are you saying you leave your Credit card with the clerk, then pay cash when leaving and get your card back? Seems risky to leave your CC with the clerk. I think he could just take a photo of it, and sell it to someone?
I have thought of getting a pre-paid visa, but was not sure they work at merchants? I would be happy to simply pay the hotel cash. If they accept cash without a CC or Drivers license simply so they know who they are renting to. Maybe they don't care? I have not rented a room in over a decade, short stay or legit hotel.
I don't leave my DL or CC with the clerk. They swipe the CC, but they don't run it until check out. Depending on the place, I pay for the room in cash, and tell them I will pay in cash for any incidentals and that way the card never gets used. But at your level of concern, (No DL, No license plate, No CC, no hotel registration) you may end up at some real sketchy places that to me, would not be worth the risk.
You can't really believe that! I've had similar experiences with women I've seen for years. I still wouldn't give them any coin beforehand. Eventually, you will get ripped off by one of those chicks that you think is your FWB. This is a business to them and pleasure for us. I won't give any chick a deposit. I've made that mistake. Papa Be.
Oh, I completely agree with you, Papa Be. I've made that mistake a few years ago, too, with escorts who I saw for more than two years. Not that they refused service or failed to show; but yes, a couple of times, service was delayed by errands until my free time was exhausted, or service was minimal or perfunctory, or they "forget" that I paid in advance and need another payment.
The UTR girls I see currently are more trustworthy, and have never asked for or expected payment in advance.
Be ready for those price bumps fellas! One of my regulars told me she's raising prices "next month" but will still charge her normal fee to certain repeat clients. The upscale girls will be flooding the market soon too. Don't forget our uncle is gearing up for stings as well. Stick to your regulars or head to Flint, Toledo, GR maybe. Use the big head and spidey sense. Be careful out there.
I don't blame providers for wanting deposits either; many of them have been stiffed on payment before. Your last sentence is key to your approach: Women who are genuine are those who can be trusted, and I have to admit that I do break my own rule with women I trust. But I have known these women for a long time, and have seen them regularly throughout; our relationships are more FWB than SW / client. They do me favors, and I "help with the bills". But it takes many repeat visits before that level of comfort and trust is achieved.
You can't really believe that! I've had similar experiences with women I've seen for years. I still wouldn't give them any coin beforehand. Eventually, you will get ripped off by one of those chicks that you think is your FWB. This is a business to them and pleasure for us. I won't give any chick a deposit. I've made that mistake. Papa Be.
I have given deposits on a couple of occasions to higher-end girls who were well reviewed and had substantial internet presence. It worked out fine. They probably had more to lose than I did under those circumstances. Still, I would only do it in exceptional cases.
I don't blame all girls for wanting deposits. You don't have to read many reviews on this site before encountering one that says something like, "So, I went to the location given but I saw a cop drive by, so I left. " On the other hand, of course, are the ones that say, "I drove to the location and called and. . . Crickets. " It's just a question of who has the leverage. I tend to be drawn to the women who are appealing enough and appear sufficiently genuine that I would at least consider a deposit.
I don't blame providers for wanting deposits either; many of them have been stiffed on payment before. Your last sentence is key to your approach: Women who are genuine are those who can be trusted, and I have to admit that I do break my own rule with women I trust. But I have known these women for a long time, and have seen them regularly throughout; our relationships are more FWB than SW / client. They do me favors, and I "help with the bills". But it takes many repeat visits before that level of comfort and trust is achieved.