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  1. #17510

    Yea

    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitLife  [View Original Post]
    I believe she dances at FC.

    https://www.pornhub.com/model/abby_mccoy
    Yea, I've seen here there, never indulged tho. If you catch her Twitter she's diving deeper into the actual porn industry. I think she's out of town shooting now.

  2. #17509
    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyFun  [View Original Post]
    I have not been in the area since about 2018, but I'll be in Livonia on Friday. I should be free after 10 pm and I'll probably stay overnight.

    Valet parking is a deal breaker for me (bad experience elsewhere) so I think that kinda limits me to bogarts and Henry's. Let me know if there are any others in that general area to consider.

    Would one club be better than the other Friday night, then again around noon Saturday.

    Thanks in advance.
    BT's (at least the few times I've been there) has city parking just a short walk away. Silver Criket has no valet whatsoever.

  3. #17508

    Looking for advice.

    I have not been in the area since about 2018, but I'll be in Livonia on Friday. I should be free after 10 pm and I'll probably stay overnight.

    Valet parking is a deal breaker for me (bad experience elsewhere) so I think that kinda limits me to bogarts and Henry's. Let me know if there are any others in that general area to consider.

    Would one club be better than the other Friday night, then again around noon Saturday.

    Thanks in advance.

  4. #17507
    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate your input MM and i've tried that same approach and I'm glad it works for you but here is what usually happens on average to the rest of us, at BT's when a girls sits down with me it is 50/50 she will want me to buy her a drink within five minutes, and if I don't draw the line on the drink cost it is 50/50 she will order a top of the line $25 drink, if I am sitting with her for 20- 40 minutes of conversation it is 50/50 that she is going to wan't another drink. Now toss in all the before and during VIP negotiation BS you go through with half the girls at BT's and that is why I say there is even odds you will meet a ROB at BT's. Compared to other clubs (even FC and LS) the girls at BTS have the hugest GPS syndrome.
    JOC,

    I here you that more girls at BTs may be looking to rip off, or at least opportunistically rip off. I know the longer she sits with me, the less chance she has for earnings elsewhere. I usually plan a 4 -5 hour visit because I will do two or three VIPs if the right girls come over. This means I am typically not in a hurry, she is usually pushing for VIP before me. Although I do admit I love hitting the VIP less than 30 minutes after walking in, especially with a favorite. This behavior often earns her a second session on the same night. I like to be drained to empty.

    I also know some girls who have ripped off others yet provided good service to me, as I didn't give them many opportunities to rip off, and they made the calculation is it best to earn my money with their charms.

    As for drinks why would you buy them? I will usually say I only buy drinks for girls I have taken them to the VIP on a prior night and enjoyed them. Or I might say my policy is to buy drinks after a satisfying VIP. If you offer the girl in the VIP to get her a drink or give her a tip, she usually takes the tip option.

    Now I might buy a girl a drink because she has satisfied me in the past, or I might have just gotten out of the VIP and am waiting through the refractory period and I don't want to loose the girl for my second session.

    I had a girl a few weeks ago sit down with me, waive the waitress over in the first 5 minutes and ask for a drink. I simply said no. She seemed offended and said she wouldn't sit with me if I didn't buy her a drink. I informed her she is free to behave however she wants. She got up and huffed away, and I thought I just avoided a ROB.

    Final thought is if you find a girl you like and you have a good VIP. Say to her I had a really great time and my policy is I only buy drinks for girls who have provided me good VIPs. Offer her to join you in the main you and you will buy her a drink. The dancers talk and know which guys do what. You will get the reputation as someone who doesn't buy drinks and the girls will stop asking.

    I know it is work and it may reduce your spontaneity and fun. But you are not at the girls mercy. You can say I will buy you a drink for $15 or $20. You don't have to order the top of the line drink. When you enter the club the waitress will come over to you and take your drink order. You can inform that waitress that you won't be buying any dancers drinks unless the waitress tells you the price ahead of time and you agree to it. Then you will know what every dancer drink costs before it is ordered and you can say yes or no for a top of the line drink or a second drink. It is your money spend it how you choose. I have one of my favorites she always orders the cheapest of drinks, and she explains to me that her VIP sessions with me are better when she has had a few drinks. I completely understand this. I pointed out to her that her three drinks cost about the same as one drink for other dancers. She told me she knows that, and she does it on purpose, this makes me both want to repeat with her and buy her more drinks. Smart girl.

    I know many guys who have run a tab and never had a problem. I never run a tab and pay cash as I go, and I have never been cheated on drinks.

    MM.

  5. #17506

    50/50 chance of a ROB at BT's

    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    YMMV, I have usually enjoyed myself at BTs. Although I will typically engage in 20 - 40 minutes of conversation with a girl and believe I am successful more often than not about who will be fun and who will be a ROB.

    MM.
    I appreciate your input MM and i've tried that same approach and I'm glad it works for you but here is what usually happens on average to the rest of us, at BT's when a girls sits down with me it is 50/50 she will want me to buy her a drink within five minutes, and if I don't draw the line on the drink cost it is 50/50 she will order a top of the line $25 drink, if I am sitting with her for 20- 40 minutes of conversation it is 50/50 that she is going to wan't another drink. Now toss in all the before and during VIP negotiation BS you go through with half the girls at BT's and that is why I say there is even odds you will meet a ROB at BT's. Compared to other clubs (even FC and LS) the girls at BTS have the hugest GPS syndrome.

  6. #17505

    Butterball at the Cricket

    On my last couple of visits to the cricket I've noticed the short, fat, white girl dancer. Didn't catch her name but she seems popular in the back, especially with the "seasoned citizens". I know everyone has a type, but with 9/10 Cubans sitting around and she went back 3 times in the 90 or so minutes I was there. Am I missing out on something? What's the catch? No gag reflex or low price point? Surely one of you mongers know.

  7. #17504
    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    Welcome to the club scene, And I agree with you on BT's the girls there are fine to look at but it's no fun knowing there is a 50/50 chance the dancer will be a ROB (rip off *****).
    YMMV, I have usually enjoyed myself at BTs. Although I will typically engage in 20 - 40 minutes of conversation with a girl and believe I am successful more often than not about who will be fun and who will be a ROB.

    MM.

  8. #17503
    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitLife  [View Original Post]
    I believe she dances at FC.

    https://www.pornhub.com/model/abby_mccoy
    Yes she does.

  9. #17502
    Quote Originally Posted by Degasa9976  [View Original Post]
    I started looking for extras last year, first opportunity presented itself at SC where I wasn't even really looking, just drunk and pliable. That set off the new hobby. I've now visited LS, FC and BTs as well and BTs is definitely the worst as far as attitudes go. LS and FC were crazy, first girls that sat down next to me just laid out the menu without even being prompted. I decided to try BTs on a weeknight last week and got CFS from a girl who was just plain stunning, but it was CG only, she wouldn't even turn around saying "I don't do that", even after me explaining I wasn't looking for "that".

    Even extras aside, FC and LS have the best atmosphere of clubs I've been to in many years. Everyone seems fairly nice and low pressure.
    Welcome to the club scene, don't brag about it too much out in public though LOL! And I agree with you on BT's the girls there are fine to look at but it's no fun knowing there is a 50/50 chance the dancer will be a ROB (rip off *****).

  10. #17501
    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitLife  [View Original Post]
    I believe she dances at FC.

    https://www.pornhub.com/model/abby_mccoy
    Thanks for the link, even though I only vaguely recall her it's nice to see videos we can relate to.

  11. #17500

    Abby-FC

    I believe she dances at FC.

    https://www.pornhub.com/model/abby_mccoy

  12. #17499
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterKnight  [View Original Post]
    I leave my coat in the car. It's a short walk to the entrance, plus it's one less thing to keep track of in the club.
    I've done that as well, I just forget half the time. They're cool about turning around and putting it in the car.

  13. #17498
    Quote Originally Posted by EatonBeaver  [View Original Post]
    If you're a regular with a specific stripper, don't get caught cheating on her LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmegBoy  [View Original Post]
    Something about BTs has rubbed me wrong for ages.

    Cricket is just about a guarantee and less pretentious, well except for the mandatory coat check thing. Hate that in the winter.

    Spea, ing of SC. I've officially given up on Sandra returning. Le sigh.
    I started looking for extras last year, first opportunity presented itself at SC where I wasn't even really looking, just drunk and pliable. That set off the new hobby. I've now visited LS, FC and BTs as well and BTs is definitely the worst as far as attitudes go. LS and FC were crazy, first girls that sat down next to me just laid out the menu without even being prompted. I decided to try BTs on a weeknight last week and got CFS from a girl who was just plain stunning, but it was CG only, she wouldn't even turn around saying "I don't do that", even after me explaining I wasn't looking for "that".

    Even extras aside, FC and LS have the best atmosphere of clubs I've been to in many years. Everyone seems fairly nice and low pressure.

  14. #17497
    Quote Originally Posted by SmegBoy  [View Original Post]
    Something about BTs has rubbed me wrong for ages.

    Cricket is just about a guarantee and less pretentious, well except for the mandatory coat check thing. Hate that in the winter.

    Spea, ing of SC. I've officially given up on Sandra returning. Le sigh.
    I leave my coat in the car. It's a short walk to the entrance, plus it's one less thing to keep track of in the club.

  15. #17496

    Re: Valet

    Quote Originally Posted by Pussylicker2  [View Original Post]
    No valet at Bogies, H8 N, Cricket. Required valet at LS and FC, they won't let you in unless you give them your keys.
    Not entirely true. I have visited LS exactly once in my life, late last year on a weeknight, parked down the street, walked in like I owned the place, no one challenged me for my keys. Maybe I just got lucky.

    Also, I have never used the valet or club parking at BT'S; parked instead behind the businesses the next block east. Or I have ridden a bicycle and locked it off premises. Caveat: I have only visited BT's in the afternoon. Perhaps they are lax about enforcing the valet rule during day shift.

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