Viagra / Sildenafil

[Big Hick]

I ordered a starter pack from Supersavermeds on 12/15. After 30 days, the order was lost in the mail. I sent them an email and they said that a new shipment is on its way (plus extras). I'll let the board know if they deliver on their promise.

Anyone else with experience with Supersavermeds, please post.

[Mark Scott]

By the way, I recently had an eye exam and had an in depth discussion about ED meds with the optimoligist who also happened to be a medical doctor & sergeon. He said although the initial link to Viagra and blindess was quickly dismissed by Phiezer and the media, there has been an ever increasing number of cases of sudden blindess in young healthy males who have absolutely no medical reason for becoming blind and nothing in common other than thier use of Viagra. Doctors seem to all strongly suspect the medication is the culprit but cant conclusively prove it yet and certianly cant publicly announce anything again untill further study is done. Its a case of the drug company making so much money off V at the moment they will easily be able to afford to pay off the minority of blindness lawsuits if its ever proven. The sudden reverse of opinion in the media and the ongoing silence about the potential risk is also an attestment to just how powerful the drug lobbies actually are in this country. The same thing happened with Fen Fen before it got yanked but when it eventually did the drug companies still probably made a healthy profit off it. The Docs advice to me was "Why take the risk if you dont medically need it".

How blindness occours: He said that the eye has a concentrated amount of blood vessels and needs a lot of blood to function. Doctors dont quite know why yet, but the same ED meds that usually work by enhancing vascular flow throught the body and penis can actually have the opposite effect on vessels to the eye in some cases. The eye vessels instead become constricted and the eye gets temporarily starved of essential blood flow which can do irreversable damage in a matter of hours just like lack of blood flow to the brain would. Thus the effect is not a slow accumulative one due to regular use that you would see coming. If it happens at all, it will happen suddenly and can happen during a single dose. Scary!

Being a risk taker anyway, this hasnt completely detered me from V yet but I am certainly not going to be popping them like candy anymore and my days of taking full 100 mg pills for an extra kick are over. I'll be sticking with as little as it takes to work from now on and will probably dose less often. I'll be looking more into other herbal alternatives as well. If anyone knows of any other ones that actually work like the Yohimbi I mentioned, do tell.

Interesting read--

http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopag...is/default.htm
Cialis (tadalafil)

FDA ALERT [07/2005]: A small number of men have lost eyesight in one eye some time after taking Cialis, Viagra, or Levitra. This type of vision loss is called non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy (NAION). NAION causes a sudden loss of eyesight because blood flow is blocked to the optic nerve.

We do not know at this time if Cialis, Viagra or Levitra causes NAION. NAION also happens in men who do not take these medicines. People who have a higher chance for NAION include those who:

* have heart disease
* are over 50 years old
* have diabetes
* have high blood pressure
* have high cholesterol
* smoke
* have certain eye problems

FDA has approved new labels for Cialis, Viagra, and Levitra to include information on possible eyesight loss (NAION).

Stop using Cialis, Viagra, or Levitra if you have a loss in your eyesight. Get medical help right away.

Current Information

* Patient Information Sheet [PDF] [HTML]
* Healthcare Professional Sheet [PDF] [HTML]
* FDA Statement
*

Label (7/8/2005)

Background Information

FDA has approved Cialis for the treatment of men who experience difficulty having and maintaining an erection (impotence). Although there are other drugs on the market for this indication, this drug is different in that it may work up to 36 hours after dosing.

* FDA Talk Paper
* Cialis Label Requires Adobe Acrobat Reader (3/31/2005)
* Cialis Patient Package Insert Requires Adobe Acrobat Reader
* Cialis Approval Letter Requires Adobe Acrobat Reader
* Questions and Answers for Cialis

Back to Drug Information

[Big Hick]

I tried Yohimbe for a while and it was marginally better. The problem is that it took a while to kick in and the effect was unpredictable.

Be careful about taking too much. I doubled the dose one time and I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I felt my heart beat faster and I couldn't sleep that night. I did some research on the web and Yohimbe isn't the best thing for your liver either.

Good luck.

[J Burb]

By the way, I recently had an eye exam and had an in depth discussion about ED meds with the optimoligist who also happened to be a medical doctor & sergeon. He said although the initial link to Viagra and blindess was quickly dismissed by Phiezer and the media, there has been an ever increasing number of cases of sudden blindess in young healthy males who have absolutely no medical reason for becoming blind and nothing in common other than thier use of Viagra. Doctors seem to all strongly suspect the medication is the culprit but cant conclusively prove it yet and certianly cant publicly announce anything again untill further study is done. Its a case of the drug company making so much money off V at the moment they will easily be able to afford to pay off the minority of blindness lawsuits if its ever proven. The sudden reverse of opinion in the media and the ongoing silence about the potential risk is also an attestment to just how powerful the drug lobbies actually are in this country. The same thing happened with Fen Fen before it got yanked but when it eventually did the drug companies still probably made a healthy profit off it. The Docs advice to me was "Why take the risk if you dont medically need it".

How blindness occours: He said that the eye has a concentrated amount of blood vessels and needs a lot of blood to function. Doctors dont quite know why yet, but the same ED meds that usually work by enhancing vascular flow throught the body and penis can actually have the opposite effect on vessels to the eye in some cases. The eye vessels instead become constricted and the eye gets temporarily starved of essential blood flow which can do irreversable damage in a matter of hours just like lack of blood flow to the brain would. Thus the effect is not a slow accumulative one due to regular use that you would see coming. If it happens at all, it will happen suddenly and can happen during a single dose. Scary!

Being a risk taker anyway, this hasnt completely detered me from V yet but I am certainly not going to be popping them like candy anymore and my days of taking full 100 mg pills for an extra kick are over. I'll be sticking with as little as it takes to work from now on and will probably dose less often. I'll be looking more into other herbal alternatives as well. If anyone knows of any other ones that actually work like the Yohimbi I mentioned, do tell.

[J Burb]

Has anyone used any products (herbal and such) that they sell over-the-counter at places like GNC or other suppliment/health/nutrition stores? My friend uses a product that he got at one of those stores and swears by it..... I need something that will keep me going till my order comes in.
--Thanks!

Yohimbi works for me but only marginally and it works more like an aphrodisiac by increasing ones libido rather than like an ED med which hardens your cock by improving blood flow. That being said, it would probably work better for the recreational user of Viagra rather than the guy with a true physically diagnosed ED problem. I'd recommend the gel caps containing the real herb rather than some hard pill that may not digest as effectively. I paid about $15 for my last bottle of 60 while awaiting my order of V. It wasnt anywhere near as good as V but the effect was noticable which was better than nothing. Maybe exceeding the recommended dose would have helped even more, I'll experiment.

[Big Hick]

Mr. Bubble,

Did you send an email to the contact info on their website? I'm going to wait one more week before I contact them.

Thanks

[Mr Bubble]

Anyone having a delay in receiving their Supersavermeds order? I placed an order on 12/15 and it hasn't come yet. The last order took only 10 days total.

I'm getting a delay on my order as well. Placed my order 11/28 and have not received my pills yet. I messaged them to resend my shipment and they replied saying that they are on 1/5. Now the wait begins.

It sucks too since I took my last V lastnight.

Has anyone used any products (herbal and such) that they sell over-the-counter at places like GNC or other suppliment/health/nutrition stores? My friend uses a product that he got at one of those stores and swears by it..... I need something that will keep me going till my order comes in.
--Thanks!

[Big Hick]

Anyone having a delay in receiving their Supersavermeds order? I placed an order on 12/15 and it hasn't come yet. The last order took only 10 days total.

[Carl White]

Stefano,
I checked out webstorerx and they are almost THREE times as expensive as alldaychemist.com.

I got 240 100mg generic V for $164.05.

Beat that!

[Stefano3]

Re: Tenderfoot

Alldaychemist.com has the best prices that i have found even figuring in their expensive shipping.

Have you ever check webstorerx.com? I buy from them and I never found something cheaper. If someone did please report that to me.

Thanks,

stefano

[Stefano3]

VIAGRA-WORLD
www.freewebs.com/viagra-world

sent to my PO box with no problems.

Bingoboy748

I normally buy from webstorerx.com and they deliver to my PO box

Bye,

Stefano

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