Viagra / Sildenafil

[RubMeToo]

I'm not getting any younger and I'm considering trying some generic V. I've been through the threads here trying to figure out which way to go and I admit that I'm confused.

I see that there are several online sources. 4X, Securetabs, All Day Chemist and I've seen good and not so good reports on all of them.

So my question is this.

Has anyone tried generic V from all of the above sources and whose V do you think is the best quality and works the best? And why do you think that way? If I have to pay a little bit more from one source that's fine, I want the best quality, best working generic V. Thanks for any help guys.

All I can say is that the V I bought from 4X is as good OR better than the stuff I've gotten from my doctor. I've not tried the others, sorry.

[Mikey2K]

I'm not getting any younger and I'm considering trying some generic V. I've been through the threads here trying to figure out which way to go and I admit that I'm confused.

I see that there are several online sources. 4X, Securetabs, All Day Chemist and I've seen good and not so good reports on all of them.

So my question is this.

Has anyone tried generic V from all of the above sources and whose V do you think is the best quality and works the best? And why do you think that way? If I have to pay a little bit more from one source that's fine, I want the best quality, best working generic V. Thanks for any help guys.

[Gigabyte40]

This can happen, but with enough time the Viagra will permeate the rest of the body. Ironically, original brand Viagra may present a greater problem in this regard than say for example Sipla brand.

I took a half 50mg tablet of suhagra-50 from cipla (alldaychemist) and a half 50mg tablet of authentic viagra. Then I gently lowered them into a glass of water. The authentic half tablet blossomed in the water and became a fine dispersion within 2 min. The suhagra tablet laid there for a good 3 min. Then it started to sort of fall apart. Over the course of about 15min it did begin to blossom and disintegrate.

The important thing to note is that if you are used to authentic viagra and it working for you in 30 min, you will absolutely not have this effect with Cipla sildenafil. You need to give their tablet an additional 15-20 min of time for the tablet to dissolve. Obviously I'm not in a position to check this result against how it might behave in stomach acid. I tested in plain tap water.

Further, this is for a half tablet. Many of you may be taking a full 50mg suhagra tablet. You may need an additional increment of time. To my original point, dissolution is slower than original brand Viagra. It may be an additional 20 min. But this is not significant relative to the 3-4 half life of Sildenafil.

I hope this information is useful to you. I'm open to you critique of this experiment and analysis.

If you like Viagra or generic sildenifil, and you don't like waiting for the tablet to dissolve, you should try Kamagra Oral Jelly from All Day Chemist.

"Week Pack Kamagra Oral Jelly" cost $10. 19 for 7 doses = $1. 45 per dose, not including shipping.

Each dose is a thick liquid you squirt out of the pack into your mouth (like a ketchup pack). Each does contains 100mg Sildenafil Citrate, same as Viagra. It has a fruity medicine taste, like cough syrup.

It worked quickly (in 20min) and had the same effect as Viagra. Very solid results, a little red face, no hangover.

[Rafficax]

I bought a large quantity of generic viagra from All Day Chemist and am concerned that after 1. 5 years, perhaps more, the pills are past their shelf life.

(Actually, what I'm concerned about is that _I_ am getting old, not the viagra!) When I first started taking V it worked almost spontaneously; now I can tell I've taken it, by some flushing in the face, but it really does not have the effect on ED that it once did. I manage fine, in the end, but I'm wondering about the generic brand and I'm concerned about shelf life.

I did a couple of searches on this forum but have not come up with any solid answers, though I see others share my concern.

I welcome whatever information you might have.

Shelf life: I've used genuine Viagra (that Viagra was 5 years old) that was kept in a sealed container, stored in normal home conditions. It worked fine. Took about 30-45min to take effect. Fact. How that compares to some generic ED meds discussed here, I cannot say. Storage conditions are very important.

[GoodOldBob]

Hi,

When I take viagra I usually take 1/2 tab. Results ok but not great but have real indigestion for several hours. Question if I take a whole will the indigestion be the same or worse. Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks

[Kazoomick]

On two occasions in the past couple of years I have taken Viagra only to have it not take effect at all. In both instances I believe the pill dissolved in my throat (one time because I didn't take anything to wash it down with.) I wasn't able to have sex either time and it was an infuriating experience. Has anyone else had a problem with this? And what in the hell can you do to make sure it doesn't happen other than trying to drink a gallon of fucking water when you take it?

This can happen, but with enough time the Viagra will permeate the rest of the body. Ironically, original brand Viagra may present a greater problem in this regard than say for example Sipla brand.

I took a half 50mg tablet of suhagra-50 from cipla (alldaychemist) and a half 50mg tablet of authentic viagra. Then I gently lowered them into a glass of water. The authentic half tablet blossomed in the water and became a fine dispersion within 2 min. The suhagra tablet laid there for a good 3 min. Then it started to sort of fall apart. Over the course of about 15min it did begin to blossom and disintegrate.

The important thing to note is that if you are used to authentic viagra and it working for you in 30 min, you will absolutely not have this effect with Cipla sildenafil. You need to give their tablet an additional 15-20 min of time for the tablet to dissolve. Obviously I'm not in a position to check this result against how it might behave in stomach acid. I tested in plain tap water.

Further, this is for a half tablet. Many of you may be taking a full 50mg suhagra tablet. You may need an additional increment of time. To my original point, dissolution is slower than original brand Viagra. It may be an additional 20 min. But this is not significant relative to the 3-4 half life of Sildenafil.

I hope this information is useful to you. I'm open to you critique of this experiment and analysis.

[RubMeToo]

I ordered some from 4RX and they refunded my money due to some issues. I then order some from All Day Chemist. It took about three weeks to get here but that was over the holidays. Anyway. 1/2 of a pill worked wonders for me. I'm older so I was pretty proud.

[Stann Mann]

I checked on this board AFTER I had ordered from them on 11/28/2011. I got an email on 12/1 that the order had been processed and that the order would be shipped soon. Then, on 12/6/2011, I got another email saying that they were sorry for the delay but they were having problems. Then, on 12/13/2011, another email said order had been shipped and it had a tracking number. I then saw this website and saw some mixed reviews. Then, I saw this post and figure I had been screwed out of my money. I waited and waited and also understood that with the Christmas holiday, things would be delayed anyway. I still after checking their website again and seeing these posts I was absolutely convinced I was screwed.

I then placed an order with Secure Tabs. Anyway, got the parcel yesterday and everything appears to be in order. I had only ordered the trial pack with 10 each 100mg blue and 20mg yellow and the cost was $46. 00 total. The pills look legit as they are marked from GenPharma (V) and Sunrise (C). I went on their site today, just for curiosity, and it looks as if they might be back in business. I think I'll see how the shipment from SecureTabs looks. I haven't tried them yet but plan to try 1/2 of the V first. I'll probably to the whole 20mg C when I get to that one. Just thought I would report that I did get my package although it took 40 days from the time I ordered to receive it. I'm thankful just the same.

[Beady]

Isn't there an expiration date on the pill container? That's usually the place to start to determine the shelf life. Having said that, the first time I got a prescription for V, the real stuff from Pfizer, I was only using it occasionally. I thought that the effect decreased over time, but based on the expiration date it should have still been good. So, just from that one experience I am concerned because I bought a large supply from Secure tabs last September. I still have a lot left and I wonder how long they will be effective.

The expiration dates on mine are 2013 or Jan 2014. I cut them in half now, so I'm hoping if I notice a decrease in effectiveness I can just go to a whole pill and get a good result.

I have ordered from Secure Tabs twice. Initially a fairly small batch as a sample of generic cialis soft 20mg. These lasted for around a year and there was no perceivable loss in function. I then ordered larger quantity of generic cialis 20mg and this batch I have been using for around 18 months, once again with no loss of performance even though my advancing age (about to pass 65) may have encouraged me to be more reliant.

The expiry date on the current batch is February 2013 and I see no reason why they will not continue to give me their benefit until that date and probably beyond.

As I have said in an earlier post, I prefer the generic cialis soft but I will be using my current stock until they are finished. If I should experience a loss of performance I will report immediately.

Obviously I am not aware of the age of fellow members but I believe that if the tablets are kept in a dark cool environment then they will live up to expectations, maybe any loss of ability could be down to the users advancing age!

Just my. 02.

Beady

[Lonelyguy128]

I bought a large quantity of generic viagra from All Day Chemist and am concerned that after 1. 5 years, perhaps more, the pills are past their shelf life.

(Actually, what I'm concerned about is that _I_ am getting old, not the viagra!) When I first started taking V it worked almost spontaneously; now I can tell I've taken it, by some flushing in the face, but it really does not have the effect on ED that it once did. I manage fine, in the end, but I'm wondering about the generic brand and I'm concerned about shelf life.

I did a couple of searches on this forum but have not come up with any solid answers, though I see others share my concern.

I welcome whatever information you might have.

Isn't there an expiration date on the pill container? That's usually the place to start to determine the shelf life. Having said that, the first time I got a prescription for V, the real stuff from Pfizer, I was only using it occasionally. I thought that the effect decreased over time, but based on the expiration date it should have still been good. So, just from that one experience I am concerned because I bought a large supply from Secure tabs last September. I still have a lot left and I wonder how long they will be effective.

The expiration dates on mine are 2013 or Jan 2014. I cut them in half now, so I'm hoping if I notice a decrease in effectiveness I can just go to a whole pill and get a good result.

[The Raven]

I went back and looked a couple of old prescription bottles and noticed C in the original sealed bottle had a two yr life while regular filled bottles of V had a 1 yr life. I don't think I would buy so many it will take year or so to use up, I try to use them up in a couple of months.

[Oldmonger]

I bought a large quantity of generic viagra from All Day Chemist and am concerned that after 1. 5 years, perhaps more, the pills are past their shelf life.

(Actually, what I'm concerned about is that _I_ am getting old, not the viagra!) When I first started taking V it worked almost spontaneously; now I can tell I've taken it, by some flushing in the face, but it really does not have the effect on ED that it once did. I manage fine, in the end, but I'm wondering about the generic brand and I'm concerned about shelf life.

I did a couple of searches on this forum but have not come up with any solid answers, though I see others share my concern.

I welcome whatever information you might have.

Doctor D,

As Gigabyte40 said, we do not know the quality of the medicines from ADC. And from what I also read in this Forum, the results vary from shipment to shipment. A key factor in the shelf life of drugs is the environment (temperature, humidity and light) in which they are stored.

If you always take Viagra on an empty stomach and avoid high-fat foods, the remaining factor is the condition of your physical and mental health. Some diseases do not have noticeable symptoms, so you might want to get a check-up to rule out undetected medical problems.

Here is what Pfizer has to say about getting results from Viagra:

http://www.viagra.com/taking-viagra/viagra-results.aspx

I often take Viagra the day before I need it, and again the next day, an hour before the "event". I find the results on the second day are better than those achieved on the first day. That is just my personal experience, YMMV.

Good luck!

[Dr Bombay]

I bought a large quantity of generic viagra from All Day Chemist and am concerned that after 1. 5 years, perhaps more, the pills are past their shelf life.

(Actually, what I'm concerned about is that _I_ am getting old, not the viagra!) When I first started taking V it worked almost spontaneously; now I can tell I've taken it, by some flushing in the face, but it really does not have the effect on ED that it once did. I manage fine, in the end, but I'm wondering about the generic brand and I'm concerned about shelf life.

I did a couple of searches on this forum but have not come up with any solid answers, though I see others share my concern.

I welcome whatever information you might have.

Past November I purchased the ADC version of Levitra. In the past I had great results, but this time the shape, color and chalky taste were different and the stuff didn't work. It seemed old product. I sent an email of how disappointed I was. I was soon contacted that replacement pills were on the way. They showed up after the usual waiting time and this time they are better but next time I'm ordering the V. In any case, I won't order a large quantity in case the shelf life is closer than what printed on the packs.

[Doctor D]

I have mentioned this before about buying drugs online from India: You really have no idea what is in them, or what you are getting. And there is no way to find out, unless you happen to have access to a lab that can test the ingredients for you.

But I have purchased and tried these generics from ADC with positive results. So I recommend them. But you have to realize some things might be TGTBT, like buying boner pills from India for a fraction of the price here in USA.

My doctor says to avoid them since there is no guarantee of purity. Sorry, that may not be the solid answer you are looking for, but you just have to decide for yourself if this is worth the risk.

I think it is worth the risk.

Apart from any questions about the purity of the original product, I'm wondering what is known about the shelf life of Viagra or its generic equivalent.

Does brand name Viagra deteriorate in quality, potency I suppose one might say?

[Gigabyte40]

I bought a large quantity of generic viagra from All Day Chemist and am concerned that after 1. 5 years, perhaps more, the pills are past their shelf life.

(Actually, what I'm concerned about is that _I_ am getting old, not the viagra!) When I first started taking V it worked almost spontaneously; now I can tell I've taken it, by some flushing in the face, but it really does not have the effect on ED that it once did. I manage fine, in the end, but I'm wondering about the generic brand and I'm concerned about shelf life.

I did a couple of searches on this forum but have not come up with any solid answers, though I see others share my concern.

I welcome whatever information you might have.

I have mentioned this before about buying drugs online from India: You really have no idea what is in them, or what you are getting. And there is no way to find out, unless you happen to have access to a lab that can test the ingredients for you.

But I have purchased and tried these generics from ADC with positive results. So I recommend them. But you have to realize some things might be TGTBT, like buying boner pills from India for a fraction of the price here in USA.

My doctor says to avoid them since there is no guarantee of purity. Sorry, that may not be the solid answer you are looking for, but you just have to decide for yourself if this is worth the risk.

I think it is worth the risk.