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[BBNovice2018]

So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.

Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.

And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.

Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.

Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.

It doesn't mean std is rare if you never hear about it and it doesn't mean std is common if you hear a lot about it. What's reported on public board is not the real statistic.

PreEp, which prevent AIDS, seems to also prevent herpes.

[HoleInOne32]

Herpes is common. I'm sure most of mongers got it, but didn't know since most people just tested for common and deadly diseases.

I rarely test for hsv (full panel, hsv is not included).

Kgirls are the same as other girls, they are not disease-free. I did get it couple times in my last 6 years (just common stds).

I have gotten once with BBBJ, but that's a rare case with a girl in San Jose.

I'm playing with fires and I'm willing to accept any consequences and that's my mindset. This hobby is not for everybody.

Agreed AB1. Anyone playing this game over a long period of time will eventually catch something. And we all play because it's addicting and a rush like any other vice.

My hope is any provider I see has effectively taken antibiotics to cure any previous bouts. Also I've read statistics which conclude a very low chance of HIV transmission in the USA via heterosexual contact. But it's certainly on my mind every time I participate.

[Jack926]

This is based on my experience with M and the recent posts in the past month or two. Has something changed really recently? I am starting to see alot of more reliable reports of BBFS than before. I remember during the pre FOSTA / CV days, the chances of finding a BBFS girl was 40% or lower. I would have to cycle through alot of girls before I finally got it. Now, it seems the rate is 90% or something really high, not that I am complaining. I had quite a few duds last year and previous years from M. The service is better or nastier if you are down. I even got someone who I have seen regularly even swallow. Never had that before but I don't usually do CIM. I tried asking this with Asuka when she was still in LA and she didn't want to do it. Not sure if it was not with me or at all but claimed it was for "health reasons", yet she did CIP. I couldn't understand the logic, but I guess it made sense in hooker logic.

Yes-the rate seems to be much HIGHER.

[Jack926]

So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.

Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.

And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.

Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.

Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.

Here is the story for you. I used to party hard back in 2004,2005 and 2006 with couple of single friends as we were all in our low 30 years old age. One night five of us brought one Vietnamese chick and two American girls from a club home. The Vietnamese chick name Linda here for sake of FAKE NAME fucked all three of us all night; it was no hold barred, dick in pussy, mouth, ass and two dicks in vagina just as you would see in porn movies. She serviced all five us at least once and the other two were less hardcore but they still fucked us all the whole night. Some of the civilian out there are crazy. I had a latina chick at Mastero Restaurants in 2007 that fucked me and three of my friends all night. I was the only one wearing condom at all times. I am more scared from some of the civilian.

The problem with Civilian girls is that there is always a DRAMA followed by their craziness the days after or weeks after.

[AsianBaller1]

So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.

Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.

And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.

Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.

Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.

Herpes is common. I'm sure most of mongers got it, but didn't know since most people just tested for common and deadly diseases.

I rarely test for hsv (full panel, hsv is not included).

Kgirls are the same as other girls, they are not disease-free. I did get it couple times in my last 6 years (just common stds).

I have gotten once with BBBJ, but that's a rare case with a girl in San Jose.

I'm playing with fires and I'm willing to accept any consequences and that's my mindset. This hobby is not for everybody.

[Meticulus9]

So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.

Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.

And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.

Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.

Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.

Well there is a drug that suppresses but does not eliminate the outbreak of HSV-2 (e. G. Makes less common).

[FredBickle]

So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.

Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.

And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.

Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.

Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.

[Tripnosis]

I seriously doubt you contracted anything serious if you look at the stats on actual transmission and see how hard it can be to get something awful even with an infected partner. Something ore simple that an antibiotic may fix would be more a realty in my opinion. I'd say test and get your answers then relax. I have been where you are and all the self torture you're doing really wears on you. You begin to feel sick in certain ways and phantom pains and illness pops up. I can say that if I had to bet I am about 99.99% sure you are fine and I will be found to be correct. I hope all turns out well for you as I'm sure it will.

Tested non-reactive at the 7 week mark. Symptoms disappeared a few days afterward. My general physician couldn't find the causes of my symptoms either. The brain is truly odd.

[FarFarAway]

Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.

I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesnt slow the guys down. I guess Im old school. Show me the papers before were BB.

I tried to respond with a lot of content about this, but it is really a topic for the safe sex thread. The admin moved it over there, if you'd like to take a look.

[FarFarAway]

Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.

I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesnt slow the guys down. I guess Im old school. Show me the papers before were BB.

There shouldn't be too much convo about this on this particular thread, there is another one called safe sex where this belongs. I don't have an opinion about the personal choices you make in this regard, but just some more data. HSV-2 is a viral disease just like HIV, and it is incurable once infected. Condoms are quite effective in reducing the HIV transmission rate, it seems like something similar should apply to HSV-2. Of course, the transmission mechanism and infected cells are different in each case. There is a way to be infected w / HSV-2 (usually called genital herpes) orally, and vice versa. If you get a STD panel, often HSV-1 is included. About 70% of the US population is seropositive for HSV-1. This is cold sores. Many people, including my best friend, are seropositive and have never even had a single cold sore. The infection rate for HSV-2 is in the 15-20% range. However, it varies by age and demographics. You can include that information in assessing your risk. I won't go into details, you can easily get the data from the CDC website (Centers for Disease Control).

[Dekkyo]

Dekkyo, what is the truth? How many of these girls that do BBFS have hiv or some other std? No one can know the exact percentages. Does it happen often that a girl with HIV or some other std will provide BBFS knowing that she has the disease?

If guy have STD, then he transmits it to the girl and then she transmits is to all her customers. Right?

I think that providers who have STD and HIV or some other diseases are more willing to do BBBJ, BBFS, DATY and so on. A lot of "clean" girls are afraid to catch some STD, so they always use a condom and do not allow DATY. But that one who are already sick. What else they can lose? So they will offer bare to get more clients and more money!

Some providers & hobbyist do not know they are sick, cause they never got tested.

[DR Monger II]

Dekkyo, what is the truth? How many of these girls that do BBFS have hiv or some other std? No one can know the exact percentages. Does it happen often that a girl with HIV or some other std will provide BBFS knowing that she has the disease?

[Dekkyo]

Thanks for the info. I'm not concerned or criticizing another mans choice for BBFS. I'm just asking how it's done with piece of mind. How you're comfortable enough with the provider, if there is something special you know that makes you feel safe. Believe me, I have the sexual addiction also, or I wouldn't be here. I can't tell you how many times I've been offered BBFS, and I stick it in for a minute then get scared and put in the cover. I hear some providers and clients are getting something called Prep. I think it's a new drug to help prevent HIV and the othe H virus that I can't think of now. So not criticizing, just looking for info.

Thanks.

I have been going often to the Russian spots in Brooklyn and latin / mix in queens. Meet well enough some of them, who told me how those „houses" and they works. Girls work 6 - 7 days a week (in one location or 2, 3 around the city), they have 8 – 25 clients a day! Depends how busy it is. Which give you about 50 – 100 guys a week. In one month about 300 clients. Girls usually stay in one house up to 6 months which is 1800 clients LOL. Seams a lot, but ones on this forum who had experienced those kinds of houses know that that's the way those spots work.

I talk about those cheap houses where for 120 – 300 you got bare service.

Now do your math how many chances you have to get HIV and STD.

Of course, lady of the house, pimp, the more experienced girl would lie to you. But new girls sometimes tell the truth. I do not talk about Asian places, because girls there don't understand and talk much in English, so I don't know what they even think of.

[DR Monger II]

109000/8623000=1. 2640612315% people have HIV in NYC.

[Bxjp7]

A question for you brave gentlemen. Aren't you guys concerned of STD's, especially those you can't rid of, like HIV, ETC. I would love to give this a try but scared to death of that. How are you sure they are clean?

Lisa does allow CIP.