Safe Sex Information and Advice

[Old Chinese Guy]

What you're thinking of is treating the infection once it takes hold. What I am referring to is using Doxy as a prophylactic. You take a 200 mg dose within 24 hours of having unprotected sex and if you were exposed to any of those bacterial STD's, it drastically reduces thr chance you will develop an infection. Think of it as prep except for bacterial infections. The CDC recently approved this kind of usage of doxy and if you do end up developing an infection, you can treat chlamydia and syphilis with doxycycline over the course of 7 or 14 days instead of getting a penicillin shot which can save you a trip to the clinic. I was given 50 of these pills to use for such things by the health clinic. I'm just putting this info out there since it's a relatively new thing and a lot of people might not be aware that doxycycline can be used this way.

Here's the problem with what you are doing. Bacteria need a certain sustained level of antibiotics to kill them effectively. If the levels are not high enough, all you are doing is selecting for drug-resistant bacteria. By pre-treating and not taking subsequent doses of dox, all you are doing is keeping dox levels in your system insufficiently high to kill all the bacteria but high enough to select to drug-resistant bacteria. Also dox only works for some but not bacterial-borne STDs. Since you do not know what bacteria you might be infected by and each bacteria requires different antibiotics to kill it, pre-dosing is useless if the bacterial infection you get is not susceptible to dox. If you don't believe me, go ask your physician and he / she will confirm what I have said. PrEP for HIV works by a totally different mechanism, it prevents HIV fro entering your CD4+ cells. But it also has to have a minimum level in your circulation to be effective, ie. 7 days of dosing before unprotected sex. I would definitely recommend against pre-dosing with antibiotics.

[ShootAndRoll]

Castle1.

You're absolutely right, when dealing with streetwalkers STI's are always a big (huge?) risk. A condom is always indicated, no if and's or but's. I looked at the CDC website regarding treatment of chlamydia. (The CDC is the "go-to" authority for physicians for the treatment of infectious diseases, including STI's). The CDC does not recommend a 1-time dose of doxycycline. Rather it recommends a 7 day course of doxycycline which provides a 100% cure. An alternative treatment with azithromycin in a one-time dose is effective 74% of cases.

There are also several STI's caused by viruses which are not curable with antibiotics. The best we can do with some of them is to take medications for the rest of your life to keep some of them under control. These include HIV and Herpes and HSV and HPV.

The other reason to be extremely careful out there is the possibility of giving your spouse or GF or partner one of these STI's.

Doing something versus doing nothing. Here's the Doxy-prep from the CDC since you're not going to cite current research. If you have something different for the viewers, please post it. I know the article says it's not 100%. Antibiotics don't work on viruses. I'm not a doctor just posting article. Doxy-Prep is for men and not women. For the complicated people that means guys with balls.

https://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment/do...as-pep-toe.htm

[Castle1]

What you're thinking of is treating the infection once it takes hold. What I am referring to is using Doxy as a prophylactic. You take a 200 mg dose within 24 hours of having unprotected sex and if you were exposed to any of those bacterial STD's, it drastically reduces thr chance you will develop an infection. Think of it as prep except for bacterial infections. The CDC recently approved this kind of usage of doxy and if you do end up developing an infection, you can treat chlamydia and syphilis with doxycycline over the course of 7 or 14 days instead of getting a penicillin shot which can save you a trip to the clinic. I was given 50 of these pills to use for such things by the health clinic. I'm just putting this info out there since its a relatively new thing and a lot of people might not be aware that doxycycline can be used this way.

Castle1.

You're absolutely right, when dealing with streetwalkers STI's are always a big (huge?) risk. A condom is always indicated, no if and's or but's. I looked at the CDC website regarding treatment of chlamydia. (The CDC is the "go-to" authority for physicians for the treatment of infectious diseases, including STI's). The CDC does not recommend a 1-time dose of doxycycline. Rather it recommends a 7 day course of doxycycline which provides a 100% cure. An alternative treatment with azithromycin in a one-time dose is effective 74% of cases.

There are also several STI's caused by viruses which are not curable with antibiotics. The best we can do with some of them is to take medications for the rest of your life to keep some of them under control. These include HIV and Herpes and HSV and HPV.

The other reason to be extremely careful out there is the possibility of giving your spouse or GF or partner one of these STI's.

[One Man]

Ya, it sucks but its a big risk when dealing with street walkers. I admit that I should have kept better track of who I was seeing and when specifically, but even if I kept track perfectly all it would do is give me a specific window and likely suspect, there is no telling who that girl would have hooked up with since then and passed it on to, and even if the girl gets tested regularly and treated early, she could still get reinfected from one of the other guys who hooked up with one of the other girls Basically, its in the wild and contact tracing is a pointless task beyond the immediate personal level. I haven't been back there since, and if I do go back I will be a lot more careful. One thing I will do from now on is use doxycycline any time I do it raw. 200 mg dose within 24 hours cuts your chance of catching chlamydia and syphilis by 90% and gonorrhea by 55% which is not perfect but a significant reduction. Beyond that, just avoiding the drugged out zombies and making sure the girl is clean is all you can really do to mitigate the risks, if you aren't using protection.

Castle1.

You're absolutely right, when dealing with streetwalkers STI's are always a big (huge?) risk. A condom is always indicated, no if and's or but's. I looked at the CDC website regarding treatment of chlamydia. (The CDC is the "go-to" authority for physicians for the treatment of infectious diseases, including STI's). The CDC does not recommend a 1-time dose of doxycycline. Rather it recommends a 7 day course of doxycycline which provides a 100% cure. An alternative treatment with azithromycin in a one-time dose is effective 74% of cases.

There are also several STI's caused by viruses which are not curable with antibiotics. The best we can do with some of them is to take medications for the rest of your life to keep some of them under control. These include HIV and Herpes and HSV and HPV.

The other reason to be extremely careful out there is the possibility of giving your spouse or GF or partner one of these STI's.

[Castle1]

Nice job in catching it early. I'm one of those stubborn raw doggers that need to feel the walls of their love canal in order to achieve shangra la. Unfortunately there's no shots one can take proactive ly just have to clean it up relatively.

Ya, it sucks but its a big risk when dealing with street walkers. I admit that I should have kept better track of who I was seeing and when specifically, but even if I kept track perfectly all it would do is give me a specific window and likely suspect, there is no telling who that girl would have hooked up with since then and passed it on to, and even if the girl gets tested regularly and treated early, she could still get reinfected from one of the other guys who hooked up with one of the other girls Basically, its in the wild and contact tracing is a pointless task beyond the immediate personal level. I haven't been back there since, and if I do go back I will be a lot more careful. One thing I will do from now on is use doxycycline any time I do it raw. 200 mg dose within 24 hours cuts your chance of catching chlamydia and syphilis by 90% and gonorrhea by 55% which is not perfect but a significant reduction. Beyond that, just avoiding the drugged out zombies and making sure the girl is clean is all you can really do to mitigate the risks, if you aren't using protection.

[Lift Her Up]

Start taking PrEP. It's free at the clinic. Also you can get a prescription for it from your doctor.

I plan to go to the county health center in Orange County, Caliornia. Do any of you have any experience there?

Lift Her Up.

[HeadJudge]

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[Valley6]

So basically our odds of getting hiv from k girls is virtually non existent? I'm just wondering here since not many people speak about this risk when barebacking.

Heterosexual sex transmission is the main transmission route for HIV in many countries. So be cautious.

[ElonMusk]

Chance of HIV per PIV exposure to someone HIV-positive is .08%. https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medic...-exposure.html.

.4% of people in the USA have HIV. 88% of those with HIV know they have HIV, 12% don't. Drug use and anal sex are the cause of most infections, despite being a small fraction of exposures. I.e. they are the riskiest behaviors.

Let's assume the worst case that among those with HIV, even though they know they have HIV, they are equally having unprotected sex as those without HIV. Your chance of having bb sex with a random American is. 00032 percent per exposure (.0008 x .004 = .0000032) or more simply put 1 in about 300,000 (1 / .0000032). Remember, that is per sex act and most people have bb sex more than once in their life. But we can assume things are better than the worst case, in that some HIV positive people who know they have it are no longer having unprotected sex (in addition to others who are taking effective antivirals which drop the HIV viral load to undetectable).

Now moving on to South Korea, the rate of HIV is far less at a rate below .1%. In fact, the vast majority of HIV positive in South Korea are men (88%), and if you filter out men and foreigners you find that for ethnic Korean women it drops to .01% of the population. That's roughly 40 times less than the number we used for an American.

If I got HIV, I would not be telling people here about it any time soon. It took almost 20 years for me to post about all the other STDs I've gotten, after processing it and "moving on".

So basically our odds of getting hiv from k girls is virtually non existent? I'm just wondering here since not many people speak about this risk when barebacking.

[FreeWally]

I wonder though, all these years on this forum, never have I seen anyone got HIV, more on STD and as for STD, PrEP does not prevent any I believe.

Chance of HIV per PIV exposure to someone HIV-positive is .08%. https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medic...-exposure.html.

.4% of people in the USA have HIV. 88% of those with HIV know they have HIV, 12% don't. Drug use and anal sex are the cause of most infections, despite being a small fraction of exposures. I.e. they are the riskiest behaviors.

Let's assume the worst case that among those with HIV, even though they know they have HIV, they are equally having unprotected sex as those without HIV. Your chance of having bb sex with a random American is. 00032 percent per exposure (.0008 x .004 = .0000032) or more simply put 1 in about 300,000 (1 / .0000032). Remember, that is per sex act and most people have bb sex more than once in their life. But we can assume things are better than the worst case, in that some HIV positive people who know they have it are no longer having unprotected sex (in addition to others who are taking effective antivirals which drop the HIV viral load to undetectable).

Now moving on to South Korea, the rate of HIV is far less at a rate below .1%. In fact, the vast majority of HIV positive in South Korea are men (88%), and if you filter out men and foreigners you find that for ethnic Korean women it drops to .01% of the population. That's roughly 40 times less than the number we used for an American.

If I got HIV, I would not be telling people here about it any time soon. It took almost 20 years for me to post about all the other STDs I've gotten, after processing it and "moving on".

[Vulcan1009]

I would not say he was picky of any sort. Here are some facts with citation:

Magic Johnson had sex with six women at the SAME TIME. https://www.marca.com/en/basketball/...3af8b45f7.html.

Magic Johnson had sex with more than 300 different sex partners EVERY YEAR. https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/s...ohnson-had-sex.

If you had sex with a few thousand sexually open women, especially in an era before HIV awareness, then you too may have HIV.

Despite being offered otherwise, the most women I have ever had sex with at the same time was one.

How many of you have had sex with even a meager 300 different women, let alone thousands? I've tried very hard, but don't come close.

Magic Johnson is beyond exceptional.

I wonder though, all these years on this forum, never have I seen anyone got HIV, more on STD and as for STD, PrEP does not prevent any I believe.

[JackHolly]

How many of you have had sex with even a meager 300 different women, let alone thousands? I've tried very hard, but don't come close.

There are some mongers who seem to have enough money to see at least one new girl every week, which would make it quite easy to see over 300 different women in about 5-6 years. But 300 different women every year?! That's just crazy. (Not to mention he probably didn't have to pay anything to see them. He might've had to pay some to go away, but that's a different story.).

That said, I think most of us don't have the kind of bankroll to see 50 different women a year, much less 300! I think most of us tend to find some favorites and see them multiple times. For me, personally, I only have the kind of bankroll to see some regulars 1-3 times a month, and try a new girl maybe 5-7 times a year. So in my years of hobbying, I'm probably somewhere in the range of having been with 100-150 different women. But it's taken me a while to get up there. No way I'll ever come close to 300 women a year; heck, even having sex 300 times a year sounds like it would be a bit much (for me), to be honest.

[PriscillaM]

I would not say he was picky of any sort. Here are some facts with citation:

Magic Johnson had sex with six women at the SAME TIME. https://www.marca.com/en/basketball/...3af8b45f7.html.

Magic Johnson had sex with more than 300 different sex partners EVERY YEAR. https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/s...ohnson-had-sex.

If you had sex with a few thousand sexually open women, especially in an era before HIV awareness, then you too may have HIV.

Despite being offered otherwise, the most women I have ever had sex with at the same time was one.

How many of you have had sex with even a meager 300 different women, let alone thousands? I've tried very hard, but don't come close.

Magic Johnson is beyond exceptional.

The issue is now how many and when, but where. Anal sex is terribly invasive in terms of blood flow. Gay men only do it one way and it is incredibly damaging in terms of what gets ripped up and where. The pussy, even tight Asian ones on sawtelle, can handle it. I am sure magic had gay sex, and if not, had anal sex either throwing or catching, alot. That is why subsaharan Africa spread hiv even among hetero.

[FreeWally]

Magic, though... I would have thought to at least be more selective about the origins of his poontang.

I would not say he was picky of any sort. Here are some facts with citation:

Magic Johnson had sex with six women at the SAME TIME. https://www.marca.com/en/basketball/...3af8b45f7.html.

Magic Johnson had sex with more than 300 different sex partners EVERY YEAR. https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/s...ohnson-had-sex.

If you had sex with a few thousand sexually open women, especially in an era before HIV awareness, then you too may have HIV.

Despite being offered otherwise, the most women I have ever had sex with at the same time was one.

How many of you have had sex with even a meager 300 different women, let alone thousands? I've tried very hard, but don't come close.

Magic Johnson is beyond exceptional.

[NuttyLoon]

Magic had probably lots of sex and probably had lots of anal sex too. Sheen strikes me as a sex maniac who likes straight vagina type of a guy though.

I thought so to, but from the rumours and stuff he's mentioned, I think he might have dabbled in a lot of things.

Especially if he was tripping or drunk.

Magic, though... I would have thought to at least be more selective about the origins of his poontang.