Safe Sex Information and Advice

[BlackHawk101]

Condoms do not protect against herpes, you're f*cked.

Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.

I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesn’t slow the guys down. I guess I’m old school. Show me the papers before we’re BB.

[BoroGuy54]

I was talking to a friend yesterday who has a cousin on SA and her cousin is 19, Latina mix and actually gets $$ per visit. Thing is that her cousin has herpes. I don't know her profile and won't find out. She said that some guys get so worked up about going BB that they just do it anyway. Although pleasurable, you may be bringing back some extra baggage. Stay covered my friends.

Condoms do not protect against herpes, you're f*cked.

[Member #6043]

I seriously doubt you contracted anything serious if you look at the stats on actual transmission and see how hard it can be to get something awful even with an infected partner. Something ore simple that an antibiotic may fix would be more a realty in my opinion. I'd say test and get your answers then relax. I have been where you are and all the self torture you're doing really wears on you. You begin to feel sick in certain ways and phantom pains and illness pops up. I can say that if I had to bet I am about 99.99% sure you are fine and I will be found to be correct. I hope all turns out well for you as I'm sure it will.

Also, HIV symptons probably going aren't going to show up that soon. And it can take 6 months to show up on a test. If you have a wife, fuck her as little as possible and definitely do not do anal on her until you get tested.

[Murphy69]

It's been 6 weeks since I've barebacked a meth addict (status unknown). A full ten second and less of very dry vaginal intercourse with her on top with me finishing inside her.

A week afterwards I started getting flu symptoms: canker sores, muscle weakness, yellow to green mucus, coughs. Symptoms have persisted for the 6 weeks on and off. Still haven't had chills, headaches, fever, or rashes.

Although I live in the cold and could just attribute this to the flu, the canker sores and random muscle aches have been off putting. I've never had canker sores unless I accidentally bit my lip or brush too hard against my gums. The muscle ache\weakness is new. Although I can lift and contract muscles normally, it feels weak like you're in a hypoglycemic state all the time. Then I get these random and mild muscle aches, the worst so far has been jabbing neck pains in the lymph nodes that leads to earaches.

Feels like my luck is finally out. I've been hyper aware of everything HIV since then; I literally sat the airport, looked up and saw a magic johnson ad looking back at me and panicked. What could the transmission route have been in this potential case? Break in the skin or through the urethra? It was so dry I can only assume it was either through skin break or the urethra tip unfolding of the penis.

I'll be testing at the 7 week mark and will update. This post was more a less of #offmychest. Will be interesting to see if I fall into that. 04% odds of transmission.

I seriously doubt you contracted anything serious if you look at the stats on actual transmission and see how hard it can be to get something awful even with an infected partner. Something ore simple that an antibiotic may fix would be more a realty in my opinion. I'd say test and get your answers then relax. I have been where you are and all the self torture you're doing really wears on you. You begin to feel sick in certain ways and phantom pains and illness pops up. I can say that if I had to bet I am about 99.99% sure you are fine and I will be found to be correct. I hope all turns out well for you as I'm sure it will.

[BigRon1969]

I was talking to a friend yesterday who has a cousin on SA and her cousin is 19, Latina mix and actually gets $$ per visit. Thing is that her cousin has herpes. I don't know her profile and won't find out. She said that some guys get so worked up about going BB that they just do it anyway. Although pleasurable, you may be bringing back some extra baggage. Stay covered my friends.

[Tripnosis]

It's been 6 weeks since I've barebacked a meth addict (status unknown). A full ten second and less of very dry vaginal intercourse with her on top with me finishing inside her.

A week afterwards I started getting flu symptoms: canker sores, muscle weakness, yellow to green mucus, coughs. Symptoms have persisted for the 6 weeks on and off. Still haven't had chills, headaches, fever, or rashes.

Although I live in the cold and could just attribute this to the flu, the canker sores and random muscle aches have been off putting. I've never had canker sores unless I accidentally bit my lip or brush too hard against my gums. The muscle ache\weakness is new. Although I can lift and contract muscles normally, it feels weak like you're in a hypoglycemic state all the time. Then I get these random and mild muscle aches, the worst so far has been jabbing neck pains in the lymph nodes that leads to earaches.

Feels like my luck is finally out. I've been hyper aware of everything HIV since then; I literally sat the airport, looked up and saw a magic johnson ad looking back at me and panicked. What could the transmission route have been in this potential case? Break in the skin or through the urethra? It was so dry I can only assume it was either through skin break or the urethra tip unfolding of the penis.

I'll be testing at the 7 week mark and will update. This post was more a less of #offmychest. Will be interesting to see if I fall into that. 04% odds of transmission.

[Rousse]

The answer is an answer you do not want to hear. The odds are very high of getting an std from an escort / AMP provider offering BBFS. I have seen statistics that 1 in 4 people have an STD.

Misleading. Estimated 20-25% of USA Adults have HSV-2 (herpes simplex B), close to that 1 in 4 total. HSV-2 is twice as common in women as in men. Once you have it, you always have it.

If you count HPV (human papillomavirus) as an std, that's another 25%. It's the most common std, but usually clears up on its own (unlike other stds), and there's a vaccine that women receive because HPV can cause cancer.

The most common remaining std is chlamydia, at about 4% of adults, probably much higher here. It and syphilis spread very easily. You will eventually lose the bet, possibly on your first try.

[John Dough]

"Olive Leaf Extract" a book by Dr. Morton Walker.

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"Now that calcium elenolate / olive leaf extract is available to the public, we can resist the onset of diseases and maladies listed in this table, taken directly from the book": AIDS, Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Hepatitus, Herpes, Syphilis, Urinary Tract Infection, Warts, etc.

http://www.truthaboutlymedisease.com....php?f=6&t=638

[PeterHouston]

The answer is an answer you do not want to hear. The odds are very high of getting an std from an escort / AMP provider offering BBFS. I have seen statistics that 1 in 4 people have an STD. I cannot pomt to a specific study showing this. But look online for the prevalence of STD's. It is high.

The more contacts one has the higher the risk of contacting an STD. Some of these providers see multiple men a day. If they are barebacking you they are barebacking others no matter what they say.

Recently there was a posting on here in the BB thread saying those who had seen a certain provider should be checked. Think about it. If she saw multiple mongers who then saw multiple providers each who then saw more mongers it is easy to figure out the odds are high, especially since many on here see the same providers based on what I have read. Yes one can contact an STD with a BBBJ as well.

Many STDs are asymptomatic in both males and females. So sadly feeling fine is not a guarantee of being free of an STD. Gonorrhea and Chlamydia are fairly easily checked as is syphilis. Trichomoniasis is not easy to diagnose in men. Many people with herpes have only one episode and no more so they do not realize they have HSV. But they can still shed the virus at certain times. HIV and Hepatitis B are around too. Many of these providers have track marks on their arms or elsewhere and / or abscesses on the legs or buttocks indicative of IV drug use. There have been comments about there being multiple women on the track on AA who are HIV positive. Hepatitis goes along with IV drug use too.

The one bright part is that just because one is exposed to an STD (including HIV) does not mean they will come down with the disease. But certainly the more exposure the higher the risk.

Wearing a condom is a good way to protect oneself. Latex ones are the best but none are 100% effective. All experts recommend wearing a condom at all time when engaged in sexual activity.

One provider who has been frequently mentioned on this site as a BB provider (and a gangbang provider) takes something to protect her from getting HIV (or did as of a couple years ago when I was communicating with her). It may help her but not those who are barebacking her. And clearly she is a high volume provider.

There is much reliable information on STD's (STI's) online. Check the CDC website. I suspect webMD is a reliable site as well.

If one has been barebacking one or more escorts then one should be checked for an STD (and possibly treated) before being with your SO or you run the risk of passing along a gift to her.

Hope this answers your questions.

PM if you have any questions / comments.

It's good to know I'm not the only one with SO. I appreciate all the info you provide. The one thing that I do worry about, I know nothing is 100%, is catching a STD. How likely is that? Any idea on how to get around that one? I wear a condom except for blow jobs.

[AlanHeckle]

It's good to know I'm not the only one with SO. I appreciate all the info you provide. The one thing that I do worry about, I know nothing is 100%, is catching a STD. How likely is that? Any idea on how to get around that one? I wear a condom except for blow jobs.

Number 1 concern for me too. Problem is several of them have no symptoms so you never know.

[KenSee]

It's good to know I'm not the only one with SO. I appreciate all the info you provide. The one thing that I do worry about, I know nothing is 100%, is catching a STD. How likely is that? Any idea on how to get around that one? I wear a condom except for blow jobs.

The question on STD is a good one. I also wonder about that. Especially so many of the girls are now doing BB. Even BBBJ can be risky.

[MikeRizzo2020]

It's good to know I'm not the only one with SO. I appreciate all the info you provide. The one thing that I do worry about, I know nothing is 100%, is catching a STD. How likely is that? Any idea on how to get around that one? I wear a condom except for blow jobs.

Sorry that you guys have had these experiences at Euro. I haven't been there in over a year due to a change in address, but I frequented there often when I first started mongering in the Spring of 2017 and I never had an issue then. Of course, "Cookie" wasn't around then and it could be more her doing this than the rest of the Euro staff.

Another reason I may not have had a problem with anyone going through my stuff at Euro is because I never went in the sauna. That seems like a perfect time for a girl to go through your stuff since they know where you are and for how long. That wasn't the reason I didn't take the sauna, to me it just seemed like a waste of time. If I just had a table shower with big tittied Candy soaping my balls and ass crack while rubbing those giant juggs in my face, the absolute last thing I wanted to do is sit in a hot little wooden room by my damn self!

I have been to way too many AMPs than I should have in the past 2 years since I moved here and seen plenty of escorts, too. Thanks to reading up the forum and also doing some thinking with my big head before the little head gets involved, there are some things I do now to avoid problems that I didn't use to do when I first started mongering.

I'm not saying that I have all the answers and please don't think I am trying to be a know-it-all, I just don't like my fellow mongers getting robbed and I'm trying to help. Take it for what it's worth..

[John Dough]

Vacuum ED pumps often come with a thin stretchy silicone or rubber disc that is used as a scrotal shield at the base of the penis. Has anyone tried sliding one of these on before putting on the condom? It might substantially increase the amount of skin coverage to protect against herpes and warts. It would be necessary to avoid friction between the two items to prevent the condom from breaking, so they probably shouldn't overlap.

[John Dough]

I suspect the extra risk from shaving pubes is due to small cuts in the skin rather than the absence of the hair. I've thought about the boxer idea too, but my concern is they may absorb body fluids which will then be transferred to the penis when you take them off. I remember reading another poster's comment that he puts the condom on first, then a dental dam with a hole in the middle (as a gasket), and then the boxers after that. If you take them off in the reverse sequence, that should be safe.

The general idea of adding a protective layer to areas not covered by the condom is a good one. There are some other options available. Coconut oil is water (body fluid) resistant and also antimicrobial. It contains monolaurin, a substance that suppresses the herpes virus. However, it is not compatible with latex condoms. Lauricidin is a concentrated form of monolaurin derived from coconut oil that is meant for oral consumption.

Dimethicone is a silicone material used in skin barrier creams. It bonds with dead skin cells in the outermost skin layer. It is water and body fluid resistant for several hours until the skin cells are shed. It is compatible with latex condoms. It is also found in silicone lubricants.

The active ingredient in Hibiclens is chlorhexidine gluconate, which is also used as an oral rinse for gum disease. There are other brands with this ingredient if that one is not available. In theory it could be used afterwards and also before hand as a preventive measure. It might absorb into the skin providing a protective layer. Use it before dimethicone.

Urinating afterwards to flush out microbes is a reasonable precaution, especially after BBBJ. Drinking water before hand will help. Cranberry juice contains a sugar called mannose that prevents UTI infections, but it only works for E. Coli bacteria.

[Lopakhin]

I believe people that shave pubes are at higher risk for herpes. Or if you shave you should wait at least 3 days. . If this is true maybe just wearing boxers and a condom would help. Maybe keeping the skin hydrated would make it less absorbant. Wonder how common herpes is among provider / mongers. I know cold soars are very common so makes me worry that maybe there is something that I don't know.

In the past, I used to shave some down there but started thinking the same way you do about the extra protection pubes provide. I always wanted to be presentable for the ladies but fuck that. If longer pubes can, in any way, reduce my chances of catching something, I'll continue to let them grow. The boxer idea is a good one, too.