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[High Pockets]

Thanks to Third Eye for a good report.
I'm in the Philly area, and I have to agree with findog and cashmuney that AFF wasn't worth it. I was a paid member for about a year, and I wasted lots of time (besides the fee) getting nowhere. Not to say others haven't had success. Maybe I had a poorly produced profile.
I also joined AFF's sister site, ALT; was a paid member for almost a year. Met one woman, scored on the first date, but I was very horny, and she was very easy (not very good looking). Didn't go back.
My problem now is, I'm at an age where women on, say, Yahoo, are looking for their last 'Mr. Right,' and don't want a NSA short fling. So, I've been taking to the streets. Haven't tried MP's or even CL. (If anyone's had some success on CL, please PM me). I'm not looking for anything long-term, and I will make donations.
Thanks for all your great tips

[Third Eye]

Some points to keep in mind about online match services:

* There are far more men than women on these sites. If you haven't figured that out yet, you will. The numbers are against you, but you can work the system by distinguishing yourself with a compelling profile and by sending messages that don't seem like spam.

* You have to post a good pic of yourself. Some people are not especially good looking but photograph well; others are pretty good looking in real life but are not photogenic. Case in point I met a very attractive woman at a party and later ran across a crappy pic of her on Yahoo--would never have recognized her. So get someone who's good at photography to do some pics of you with your cat or dog or piranha fish, or doing something cool that demonstrates that you have interests and are not a damn couch potato.

* The info that goes on a profile doesn't necessarily reflect reality. At all. Aside from pics (see my previous point), profiles are all about stats: height, weight, measurements, distance from your home, income, etc. Also there's usually a long list of interests. Stats mean very little. You can tell more in the first minute of face to face contact with a woman whether she turns you on than three weeks of studying her profile and a set of blurry pics.

* A consistent success factor I've found in comparing notes with other guys is getting from email to phone to face to face meeting reasonably smoothly and quickly. If it progresses in a reasonably short time, that probably means success. If delayed too long or there's a lot of doubt or resistance, nothing comes of it. There are exceptions of course--a death in the family is one thing, but if four weeks have gone by and she still won't meet you, forget it.

* On a related note, beware time wasters. These are women who will just string you along in endless conversations or will meet but expect you to be their "problem pal." Avoid this by being honest and straightforward about what you're looking for. Not a jerk, just honest.

* The one clear advantage of online: Once you do meet, you're much more likely to score, and score more quickly, than by meeting in real time. This is because women feel that they have already "pre-screened" you, or they wouldn't be meeting you at all.

* Of course it's a numbers game and frankly the numbers are not in the males' favor. The worst mistake a guy makes is thinking that an online venue is somehow easier than a real-life encounter. In fact it is much harder.

* Each online service has its own "personality," that is, it seems to attract a certain demographic or types of people. For example, the alternative personals section of a weekly paper is going to have more "alternative" people advertising than say Match, which is very mainstream.

To conclude, here's my own experience. I didn't do well on Match or the alternative weeklies. Ash*ey Mad*son was an expensive waste of time. On CL I met a few women who were nice enough, but worked out to LJBF. Also there are no pics on CL, so it's risky. Yahoo worked best for me. The women seemed the most open-minded and least paranoid of all the services. That was only my experience; your results may vary. I did have some problems terminating membership with both Match and Yahoo. Match continued charging me after I canceled. Yahoo made it almost impossible to find the page for canceling the service, and even when I thought I'd canceled, they didn't acknowledge it. If you have any doubt, call the service directly and tell them that you're canceling. If the online services are indeed posting fake profiles, it's yet one more reason to avoid this method of meeting women. Compared to real life, it's very inefficient.

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[CashMuney]

I was a paid member of adult friend finder and it was total bullsh!t. PLEASE don't waste your time and money! I try the craigslist some times, but the reply that I always get is from model cam site where you pay to enter and get charged by the min to watch them play with their pu$$y on a cam! cost way to much for that sh!t.

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[findog]

In regards to Harry Bush's post:

I used to be a member of Match and now Yahoo. Have had a low-moderate efficiency of 20-30% of emails sent with replies. Of those, I go out on a date with almost all, maybe 90%, and of the ones I've gone out with, besides the rare exceptions who I find outright psychotic, I've hit all, usually within the first 3 dates. I find most of the women on the online sites to be very open sexually (I guess they had to have some balls to go online as women).

BUT.... the sites definitely have fake profiles and they're so easy to spot. The profile usually has only one pic, always an above average to fine woman, and the dead giveaway is that there are little to no preferences listed about their match (e.g. Height = 3ft to 7ft 11in) !!!! I have also gotten fake "icebreakers" and occasional fake generic responses to my emails. Such f'in bullshit! That's the one thing that pisses me off about these sites.

I stay away from AFF and the other sex-themed sites for two reasons. One, I've heard too many guys complaining of coming up dry, not even a date, after paying the memberships. And two, it's hard for me to believe that an average to above average woman...OK, even a fuckable woman, would go on those sites to find sex, as opposed to, a bar or club. I'm not saying it can't happen or that you guys haven't scored on these sites (if you have, I'd love to hear about it), but it can't be that common.

Anyway, that was my 2cents. I hope that this post was a bit helpful.

Happy New Year.

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