Massage Parlor Reports

[Desertchief]

I know this adds zero value but I just reread my poasts from the archives (I was TucsonChief back in the day - lost the password, switched computers, had some kind of revelation or something and became DesertChief, somehow)

It almost brought a tear to my eye. I really miss Tucson. Good luck mongering and screw the police

[Hondo4923]

Just like Blklapilot, I too, have spent time in Denver enjoying the many, many AMP's. There must be 30 or more scattered throughtout the Denver Metro area. The girls there are so much younger, cuter, hotter than they are here. The "special" he refers to is honored at approx 1/2 the Denver AMP's. Makes things so much easier. A "Denver" quality AMP would be a great addtion to this dusty little town. Sadly, I won't let my hopes get too high.

Well having lived in Denver I gotta tell you there are a LOT of good quality AMPs where extras (HE to FS) are readily available. There's another board that solely covers Denver area (and Colorado Springs) AMPs, escorts and independents. The board's owner has such clout that a few MPs have "the special" which is a flat-rate 'discount' with table shower, 1 hour, full extras with no need for negotiating or the usual banter.

[Blklatpilot]

Just curious since I spend a lot of time in Tucson. We have been talking about another massage place in either Denver or Tucson, but Denver is really to far to manage efficiently.

Well having lived in Denver I gotta tell you there are a LOT of good quality AMPs where extras (HE to FS) are readily available. There's another board that solely covers Denver area (and Colorado Springs) AMPs, escorts and independents. The board's owner has such clout that a few MPs have "the special" which is a flat-rate 'discount' with table shower, 1 hour, full extras with no need for negotiating or the usual banter.

[Hondo4923]

Hmmmmm, this has been an interesting string of posts but somewhat confusing. If the "new" place did not even offer basic AMP services, I am unsure if the place would hit the minimum of 5. 10 visits per day. Normally an hour at the local AMP is 60 bucks, plus some type of tip. If the place does not offer anything else, it becomes similar to a number of chain massage establishments, such as Rubs or BodyWorks. The downfall is that Rubs (and others) only change 40 p/hr, plus tips. Why would we go there if we are only looking for a massage, if the massage was more expensive? Just my 2 cents worth.

You are correct. I guess I just look at hand release as part of the massage, just a different muscle. I look at other services like oral or f/s as non-legit.

This place would be licensed and probably not even offer HE if the risk of being shut down is too great. The question becomes, can Tucson support such a place. We would probably locate near a more upscale area, maybe more north or north east Tucson.

Really the numbers need to be around 5 - 10 visits a day to cover rent and expenses.

[Weben]

You are correct. I guess I just look at hand release as part of the massage, just a different muscle. I look at other services like oral or f/s as non-legit.

This place would be licensed and probably not even offer HE if the risk of being shut down is too great. The question becomes, can Tucson support such a place. We would probably locate near a more upscale area, maybe more north or north east Tucson.

Really the numbers need to be around 5 - 10 visits a day to cover rent and expenses.

Well to start Weben I am a little confused with the contradictory nature of what you are proposing. Are you talking about a strictly legit therapeutic massage spa, or are you talking about an AMP where a HE is proffered to select preferred clientelle, which by definition then is no longer "legit". Assuming that you are insinuating the latter, if it is within the city limits of Tucson, I would fully expect it to be closed down by the man at some point. There have been quasi legit locales here before, who had licensed massage provider on staff, that have been closed due to suspected or actual extended service menus.

D Dog

[Desert Dog]

But, if the place was legit, do you think there would still be an issue with the law enforcement people? My friend does not allow her girls to do anything other than maybe HE, and that is usually limited to repeat customers.

Well to start Weben I am a little confused with the contradictory nature of what you are proposing. Are you talking about a strictly legit therapeutic massage spa, or are you talking about an AMP where a HE is proffered to select preferred clientelle, which by definition then is no longer "legit". Assuming that you are insinuating the latter, if it is within the city limits of Tucson, I would fully expect it to be closed down by the man at some point. There have been quasi legit locales here before, who had licensed massage provider on staff, that have been closed due to suspected or actual extended service menus.

D Dog

[OlderWiser]

But, if the place was legit, do you think there would still be an issue with the law enforcement people? My friend does not allow her girls to do anything other than maybe HE, and that is usually limited to repeat customers. (from previous poster: "invariably those that are within the city of Tucson's jurisdiction get shut down by LEO.")

Exactly. Legit. That means, in Arizona, practitioners licensed by the state after passing written and practical exams and having had x00 hours of qualified schooling. Tucson may also have establishment licensing requirements, in addition to some sort of business license; it's a big enough city. If a MP were to meet these requirements, then it would take catching-in-the-act (or maybe a sworn affidavit by a customer) before LEO would be able to do anything.

The Marana PD or the Sheriff's office may have better things to do than chase down license violations.

[Weben]

But, if the place was legit, do you think there would still be an issue with the law enforcement people? My friend does not allow her girls to do anything other than maybe HE, and that is usually limited to repeat customers.

Say Weben,

Tucson itself has had a number of places come and go you are correct, but it is not about a lack of good skills by the ladies or lack of biz from the gents: invariably those that are within the city of Tucson's jurisdiction get shut down by LEO. Those that currently exist down here are ALL on Ina Rd., which I believe puts them in Marana, or possibly Oro Valley, but NOT Tucson. This city, Tucson, over the last ten years has run at least a half dozen out of town. So as the business people say: location, location, location.

D Dog

[Hondo4923]

D/Dog is 100% correct. All the amp's that have opened within the Tucson City limits are gone. The Ina Rd Amps are all in the Marana City limits. Yes indeed D/Dog, it is all about location, location and location.

With that being said, a good AMP, at a discreet location, with some hot, young ladies, offering basic service would be on my weekly "to do" list.

Say Weben,

Tucson itself has had a number of places come and go you are correct, but it is not about a lack of good skills by the ladies or lack of biz from the gents: invariably those that are within the city of Tucson's jurisdiction get shut down by LEO. Those that currently exist down here are ALL on Ina Rd., which I believe puts them in Marana, or possibly Oro Valley, but NOT Tucson. This city, Tucson, over the last ten years has run at least a half dozen out of town. So as the business people say: location, location, location.

D Dog

[Desert Dog]

If Tucson were to have a good Asian massage place, nothing but good massage and HE at most (no F/S), do you think it would stay busy? Seriously...

I help manage one here in Phoenix (won't say which one).. Typical business is maybe 8-10 people on a decent day, with a max of 15 (only 1 girl) with a pretty even split between 1/2 hour and 1 hour massages. My Chinese friend lives in LV as she does not like Phoenix, or the typical male customer. Most want FS and don't tip well. However, she only provides massage and only hires girls that do good massage and maybe HE for "nice guys" (i.e. those that don't expect sex, reach down shorts and tip decent).

Just curious since I spend a lot of time in Tucson. We have been talking about another massage place in either Denver or Tucson, but Denver is really to far to manage efficiently.

Tucson seems to have had places come and go.. Trying to figure out if it is because of the lack of demand or just poor massage girls.

Say Weben,

Tucson itself has had a number of places come and go you are correct, but it is not about a lack of good skills by the ladies or lack of biz from the gents: invariably those that are within the city of Tucson's jurisdiction get shut down by LEO. Those that currently exist down here are ALL on Ina Rd., which I believe puts them in Marana, or possibly Oro Valley, but NOT Tucson. This city, Tucson, over the last ten years has run at least a half dozen out of town. So as the business people say: location, location, location.

D Dog

[Semianon]

If Tucson were to have a good Asian massage place, nothing but good massage and HE at most (no F/S), do you think it would stay busy? Seriously...

I help manage one here in Phoenix (won't say which one).. Typical business is maybe 8-10 people on a decent day, with a max of 15 (only 1 girl) with a pretty even split between 1/2 hour and 1 hour massages. My Chinese friend lives in LV as she does not like Phoenix, or the typical male customer. Most want FS and don't tip well. However, she only provides massage and only hires girls that do good massage and maybe HE for "nice guys" (i.e. those that don't expect sex, reach down shorts and tip decent).

Just curious since I spend a lot of time in Tucson. We have been talking about another massage place in either Denver or Tucson, but Denver is really to far to manage efficiently.

Tucson seems to have had places come and go.. Trying to figure out if it is because of the lack of demand or just poor massage girls.

I honestly can't say if it would stay busy or not. What I can say is that if there was a massage parlor on the east side of Tucson where I could get a table shower and decent massage for a reasonable price, I would visit once a week. And that is without the HE.

[Weben]

If Tucson were to have a good Asian massage place, nothing but good massage and HE at most (no F/S), do you think it would stay busy? Seriously...

I help manage one here in Phoenix (won't say which one).. Typical business is maybe 8-10 people on a decent day, with a max of 15 (only 1 girl) with a pretty even split between 1/2 hour and 1 hour massages. My Chinese friend lives in LV as she does not like Phoenix, or the typical male customer. Most want FS and don't tip well. However, she only provides massage and only hires girls that do good massage and maybe HE for "nice guys" (i.e. those that don't expect sex, reach down shorts and tip decent).

Just curious since I spend a lot of time in Tucson. We have been talking about another massage place in either Denver or Tucson, but Denver is really to far to manage efficiently.

Tucson seems to have had places come and go.. Trying to figure out if it is because of the lack of demand or just poor massage girls.

[OlderWiser]

I dropped in late Sunday afternoon to try it for the first time. I was greeted and taken back; while I was waiting, apparently someone else arrived. My first greeter gave me half my TS and went away again, and a second person came in to finish and stay with me the rest of the time.

Perhaps it is a function of my age, but I mostly go for the massage (and the HE). I feel pampered by a nice shower, and if the provider can do some real massage, so much the better. This new girl, who called herself Jennifer, seemed to know what she was doing. She likes going deep (says she is told she's better at that than the light stuff), and she was very attentive the whole time, helping after the shower and after the massage. As I say, the massage was pretty good. Again due to my age and waning powers the HE may have happend sooner than planned; but then she kept on working my face and scalp, and then had me sit up while she whaled on my back some more. I did not feel rushed (and according to my clock I was in the building at least 70 minutes).

Jennifer is cute, not a beauty, not the youngest or most curvaceous girl I've seen; but I wasn't concerned by any of that. Her English is about typical. I would certainly see her again, but my trips to Tucson are fairly rare (we have nothing along these lines out where I am).

[Hondo4923]

Just like Desert Dog, I made a visit to TN and saw Candy. I agree with most everything he said. Pretty typical TN experience but I was not shorted any time. After the festivities were concluded to my satisfaction, she spent the last 10 or 15 minutes doing a scalp massage and some leg stretches. The visit was good but not great. As I said, pretty typical TN session.

BTW, Candy left on an airplane Sunday morning. She said she will be gone for approx 10 days and may return.

If I wasn't a sucker for asian girls, I would stick 100% with the few independents around town.

Stopped by last week because it had been some time since a previous visit and due to the fact that there was rumor of new talent in the house. Saw the new gal Candy; while she is fairly attractive with a nice body the massage was bad , I was shorted about 15 min on time and she thought that a hand release warranted more of a tip than I did. It was all very rushed. Personally I cant see where the AMPs in this city are staying in biz. I said it a few weeks ago and I will say it again there are a few independents in town that are blowing them away. I don't believe I will be returning in the near or distant future.

D Dog

[Desert Dog]

Stopped by last week because it had been some time since a previous visit and due to the fact that there was rumor of new talent in the house. Saw the new gal Candy; while she is fairly attractive with a nice body the massage was bad , I was shorted about 15 min on time and she thought that a hand release warranted more of a tip than I did. It was all very rushed. Personally I cant see where the AMPs in this city are staying in biz. I said it a few weeks ago and I will say it again there are a few independents in town that are blowing them away. I don't believe I will be returning in the near or distant future.

D Dog