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  1. #24700
    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisMojo  [View Original Post]
    These providers get away with raising rates because SOMEONE was willing to pay that rate. We hobbyists need to have a better grasp of what's going on. It's our money. We control the market. Case in point. If a BP gas station is charging 2. 00 a gallon for gas and Circle K across the street is charging 1. 00 a gallon then why are you buying the BP gas? You just emboldened BP to set that higher price. ECONOMICS 101 here, people. Supply and demand. Cut off the demand and the prices must drop.
    I agree. There are over 3 BILLION humans on earth with a pussy,1/3 of those are of age, the supply is plentiful. GPS is something I run across on the WYP site. There are not ANY jobs, there are NO JOBS for uneducated girls that pay the rates they are asking at the low end, much less the higher "Worth" girls.

    If the girl is that amazing, some dude would have her and she would not be selling pussy to me. I JUST pick the ones in my budget range, god knows there's many many to choose from. Call me cheap, say I should switch to SW because I'm not buying a $20 fast food meal when $10 will get me a delicious fast food lunch? That's cool, some of you guys can pay what you think it's "worth" and I'll shop for pussy within my budget with no negotiations. Supply and demand makes sense to me.

    Yes YMMV LOL.

  2. #24699

    Rates raising because

    These providers get away with raising rates because SOMEONE was willing to pay that rate. We hobbyists need to have a better grasp of what's going on. It's our money. We control the market. Case in point. If a BP gas station is charging 2. 00 a gallon for gas and Circle K across the street is charging 1. 00 a gallon then why are you buying the BP gas? You just emboldened BP to set that higher price. ECONOMICS 101 here, people. Supply and demand. Cut off the demand and the prices must drop.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shafther  [View Original Post]
    I agree. I will not pay 150 for hh. No way. Have to be hot AF and very few are. I have went 120 a few times but I prefer 100 or I will keep looking. For a QV 80 is max. You keep paying the raised rates and they will keep raising. I am not that desperate.

  3. #24698
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNutz  [View Original Post]
    What constitutes "Hot AF"? I've seen some of the posts others have stated that the lady is "hot AF" but there is no way I would ever consider seeing those ladies. This is why its absurd to argue who deserves what when it comes to rates. What one person sees as hot may not be what another person sees as hot. Again, we shouldn't be the one putting a price tag on the ladies. Its bad enough some of them are in this because of being unemployed, mental illness, or drug problems. Allow them to dictate what they feel their WORTH is.
    Well Me personally I never haggle if the girl represent herself truly and its her price I have a choice of seeing her or leaving. If her price is not what I am will to pay. I leave.

    Jack.

  4. #24697
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNutz  [View Original Post]
    What constitutes "Hot AF"? I've seen some of the posts others have stated that the lady is "hot AF" but there is no way I would ever consider seeing those ladies. This is why its absurd to argue who deserves what when it comes to rates. What one person sees as hot may not be what another person sees as hot. Again, we shouldn't be the one putting a price tag on the ladies. Its bad enough some of them are in this because of being unemployed, mental illness, or drug problems. Allow them to dictate what they feel their WORTH is.
    Agree. I have been offered a discount of $40 on the donation from my 2 main providers for being a regular, and I declined. I pay them what they value themselves at. If $40 is going to make or break me then I'm too broke to see them. I sometimes regret that decision, but not really. Not like I'm seeing strangers where I don't know what to expect.

  5. #24696

    Curious

    Quote Originally Posted by Shafther  [View Original Post]
    I agree. I will not pay 150 for hh. No way. Have to be hot AF and very few are. I have went 120 a few times but I prefer 100 or I will keep looking. For a QV 80 is max. You keep paying the raised rates and they will keep raising. I am not that desperate.
    What constitutes "Hot AF"? I've seen some of the posts others have stated that the lady is "hot AF" but there is no way I would ever consider seeing those ladies. This is why its absurd to argue who deserves what when it comes to rates. What one person sees as hot may not be what another person sees as hot. Again, we shouldn't be the one putting a price tag on the ladies. Its bad enough some of them are in this because of being unemployed, mental illness, or drug problems. Allow them to dictate what they feel their WORTH is.

  6. #24695

  7. #24694

    Thanks Ram. Missy and Juci info

    Quote Originally Posted by Ram98  [View Original Post]
    Never had the pleasure of seeing Juci. However, I have seen Missy multiple times. She is legit and a very good time. Really gets involved in the session but everything is covered. She has been posting in Jackson a lot lately. When I saw her, she was in Memphis. Rates are very very reasonable. Happy Hunting!
    I had heard missy was a lot of fun. I hate everything is covered though. Hoping to hear something on Juci too. Reasonable rates you say Ram? PM me with those please.

  8. #24693

    Stupid rates

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSofa  [View Original Post]
    I don't get it. First time you ask to see a girl and she says 100 qv thoughts for your dream. How? Who has been paying that much? These girls are way different than years ago here in Memphis. Some have told me 150 thoughts for your qv dream. How? Which idiot is paying that? It used to be a reasonable amount for your visit to see if you like and then negotiate your dreams after that if you found your own personal brand of coke you just had to drink more of. Why has that idea and logic gone away. Just spoke to Harper and she said 100 qv and I need a selfie first. GTFO. I mean raise your hand if you've shown to a qv dream paid your due thought processes and it was horrible and you couldn't even get one thing you wanted. Now these girls are asking for 100-150 qv without any justification. Just give me your thoughts and I show no effort or appreciation in return.

    I think if we want to stop this, it needs to be a collective movement to stop allowing these girls to get away with whatever they want. Or if you want to continue to throw your thoughts away then go ahead. But it's almost to the point where it's cheaper to just meet a girl on tinder, take her on 2 real dates quietly and have a some free smash when you're able to make schedules work. I feel like these girls just don't understand it's always cheaper to just rub one off yourself.

    I'm off my pedestal. Thoughts?
    I agree. I will not pay 150 for hh. No way. Have to be hot AF and very few are. I have went 120 a few times but I prefer 100 or I will keep looking. For a QV 80 is max. You keep paying the raised rates and they will keep raising. I am not that desperate.

  9. #24692

    No sir.

    I've been in this area for over a decade and had relationships with some of the greats here. The ones I've dreamt of and saw regularly for me (once or twice a week) the first visit was always negotiated. After that it was asking thoughts. I've also not known many ladies to stick to their same price! If you have, then maybe you've not been in the hobby as long as you suggest. Plenty of times the hhr rate or qv rate has gone up or down 20 thoughts per dream based on what they need. I didn't argue if it was the flavor of coke I wanted to drink.

    Say what you want, but I'm not for charging the client above and beyond for the dream with no validity behind it. If you want to continue to walk into disappointment traps, by all means walk in front of me, non withstanding well established and well reviewed providers or course.

    It's the oldest profession in the world, you can kindly go take your high and mighty act somewhere else because above everything, I am courteous and a gentlemen when talking with our dream makers. If the the negotiations (Jedi voice) don't work, I look elsewhere, but I'm a very understanding and decent manner.

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNutz  [View Original Post]
    If you can't afford to pay the 100 for just a quarter of an hour, maybe its time to call it quits. Amazes me how often men complain about rates. If you can't afford it, don't complain or get on a pedestal. Just move on to the next. Most guys want everything on the cheap, just realize that these women aren't a piece of meat. They already have put a price on their willingness to sell their body. But everyone wants to negotiate.

    I have never negotiated with any lady, in fact one time I saw a woman in Memphis and she looked nothing like her pics. She was a bit larger then I liked and scheduled two hours prior to seeing what she looked like. She quoted me $$. 50 for the visit. It was awful. I just won't see her again. The fact that you want them to go lower then their initial rate and then try and "negotiate" a lesser amount the next time is the reason the area has dried up, going UTR, or higher end site. They can make more for a half and not have to deal with people who want to haggle.

    I've done this enough times and know enough girls that have told me countless times that the moment a hobbyist starts to haggle, they go crickets or block them. There are some ladies I've known that use to charge $$ to visit in LA for an hour, got to know them and they would just come over to have fun and never expected a thing in return financially.

    I'm off my pedestal now.

  10. #24691
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNutz  [View Original Post]
    If you can't afford to pay the 100 for just a quarter of an hour, maybe its time to call it quits. Amazes me how often men complain about rates. If you can't afford it, don't complain or get on a pedestal. Just move on to the next. Most guys want everything on the cheap, just realize that these women aren't a piece of meat. They already have put a price on their willingness to sell their body. But everyone wants to negotiate.

    I have never negotiated with any lady, in fact one time I saw a woman in Memphis and she looked nothing like her pics. She was a bit larger then I liked and scheduled two hours prior to seeing what she looked like. She quoted me $$. 50 for the visit. It was awful. I just won't see her again. The fact that you want them to go lower then their initial rate and then try and "negotiate" a lesser amount the next time is the reason the area has dried up, going UTR, or higher end site. They can make more for a half and not have to deal with people who want to haggle.

    I've done this enough times and know enough girls that have told me countless times that the moment a hobbyist starts to haggle, they go crickets or block them. There are some ladies I've known that use to charge $$ to visit in LA for an hour, got to know them and they would just come over to have fun and never expected a thing in return financially.

    I'm off my pedestal now.
    I needed a good laugh today. Thanks.

  11. #24690

    Maybe time to find SW

    If you can't afford to pay the 100 for just a quarter of an hour, maybe its time to call it quits. Amazes me how often men complain about rates. If you can't afford it, don't complain or get on a pedestal. Just move on to the next. Most guys want everything on the cheap, just realize that these women aren't a piece of meat. They already have put a price on their willingness to sell their body. But everyone wants to negotiate.

    I have never negotiated with any lady, in fact one time I saw a woman in Memphis and she looked nothing like her pics. She was a bit larger then I liked and scheduled two hours prior to seeing what she looked like. She quoted me $$. 50 for the visit. It was awful. I just won't see her again. The fact that you want them to go lower then their initial rate and then try and "negotiate" a lesser amount the next time is the reason the area has dried up, going UTR, or higher end site. They can make more for a half and not have to deal with people who want to haggle.

    I've done this enough times and know enough girls that have told me countless times that the moment a hobbyist starts to haggle, they go crickets or block them. There are some ladies I've known that use to charge $$ to visit in LA for an hour, got to know them and they would just come over to have fun and never expected a thing in return financially.

    I'm off my pedestal now.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSofa  [View Original Post]
    I don't get it. First time you ask to see a girl and she says 100 qv thoughts for your dream. How? Who has been paying that much? These girls are way different than years ago here in Memphis. Some have told me 150 thoughts for your qv dream. How? Which idiot is paying that? It used to be a reasonable amount for your visit to see if you like and then negotiate your dreams after that if you found your own personal brand of coke you just had to drink more of. Why has that idea and logic gone away. Just spoke to Harper and she said 100 qv and I need a selfie first. GTFO. I mean raise your hand if you've shown to a qv dream paid your due thought processes and it was horrible and you couldn't even get one thing you wanted. Now these girls are asking for 100-150 qv without any justification. Just give me your thoughts and I show no effort or appreciation in return.

    I think if we want to stop this, it needs to be a collective movement to stop allowing these girls to get away with whatever they want. Or if you want to continue to throw your thoughts away then go ahead. But it's almost to the point where it's cheaper to just meet a girl on tinder, take her on 2 real dates quietly and have a some free smash when you're able to make schedules work. I feel like these girls just don't understand it's always cheaper to just rub one off yourself.

    I'm off my pedestal. Thoughts?

  12. #24689

    Missy

    Quote Originally Posted by Shafther  [View Original Post]
    Looking for info and menu on both of these. https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...phis/56767028/ Missy and then Juci. https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...978/9015205406 I'm in Memphis for the night. A perfect dream would include bbj.
    Never had the pleasure of seeing Juci. However, I have seen Missy multiple times. She is legit and a very good time. Really gets involved in the session but everything is covered. She has been posting in Jackson a lot lately. When I saw her, she was in Memphis. Rates are very very reasonable. Happy Hunting!

  13. #24688

    Anybody seen her yet?

    Anybody seen her yet? I've tried to twice in the past, but she never showed up?

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...phis/56873357/#.

  14. #24687

    Rates have gone up over years

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSofa  [View Original Post]
    I don't get it. First time you ask to see a girl and she says 100 qv thoughts for your dream. How? Who has been paying that much? These girls are way different than years ago here in Memphis. Some have told me 150 thoughts for your qv dream. How? Which idiot is paying that? It used to be a reasonable amount for your visit to see if you like and then negotiate your dreams after that if you found your own personal brand of coke you just had to drink more of. Why has that idea and logic gone away. Just spoke to Harper and she said 100 qv and I need a selfie first. GTFO. I mean raise your hand if you've shown to a qv dream paid your due thought processes and it was horrible and you couldn't even get one thing you wanted. Now these girls are asking for 100-150 qv without any justification. Just give me your thoughts and I show no effort or appreciation in return.

    I think if we want to stop this, it needs to be a collective movement to stop allowing these girls to get away with whatever they want. Or if you want to continue to throw your thoughts away then go ahead. But it's almost to the point where it's cheaper to just meet a girl on tinder, take her on 2 real dates quietly and have a some free smash when you're able to make schedules work. I feel like these girls just don't understand it's always cheaper to just rub one off yourself.

    I'm off my pedestal. Thoughts?
    A couple years ago, the going rate for a qv was 80, few asked for 100, now a days 100 is normal for a qv, a few still do 80, but it's rare, I think it's because of supply and demand, there aren't a bunch of good looking girls posting here like there used to be years ago, especially white girls, because some have either retired, went to jail, or just moved away, so they're able to ask that much now, and most guys will give in if they really want to visit that girl.

  15. #24686

    Lucky was a lucky strike 10/10 from her Accurate pics to her attitude

    Before I even made it to the dream, from conversations alone I told her then she was everything she claimed that I was going to be lucky and we just have to share the same call sign. There ain't many I have found there were all Aces when it came both in how they claimed to be a sweet in person and as pretty as a pic and I've been around here for way longer than I've been posting. Call me a lurker I'm just a private guy that usually keeps as quiet as my circle is small. Because my experience sharing certain things taught me not to do so again. But with the few legit fun ladies worth a dream left in this once bountiful Bluff City, the the best deserve to be spoken on bragged on and enjoyed. If you've yet to try your luck with lucky you're missing one super sweet dream! Glock this one is right up your alley! Promised I would not forget to pass along you that she just may have a shot or two you might like. Sweet Southern Sweet Southern Beauty well worth a dream and currently looking to make new friends.

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