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I don't know what's funnier. The "infamous" post that is as out of place here as Rick Santorum speaking at a Women's Rights forum. Or the defensive responses to it. The truth is that we won't learn our own lessons until we get kicked in the nuts hard enough to make us want to change (or scared not to). There may be some (or a lot) of truth in what he said, but anyone with a brain pretty much knows the dangers and implications involved in this lifestyle and don't want to hear about it here.
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Originally Posted by FastAndLoose
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This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.
First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.
Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.
Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.
See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.
Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.
Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.
Sorry for calling bullshit.
Happy hunting.
And so what?
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Infamous post
Sounds to me like someone that's jealous. Probably has a small dick and can't please a lady. Or a small wallet and can't afford the ladies.
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Troll
Originally Posted by FastAndLoose
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This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.
First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.
Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.
Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.
See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.
Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.
Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.
Sorry for calling bullshit.
Happy hunting.
Based on earlier reports from local providers and some internal linguistic evidence in the above post (plus the fact that this is his first post under this alias), this is simply a familiar troll seeking reactions and over-reactions. If you don't feed the trolls, they eventually get tired and go back under the bridge.
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The Novel of Ranting
I don't get it. You mad bro?
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Ditto Mr Stone!
Originally Posted by Rollin Stone
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Ok Pator Pete I read your post. It isn't the most infamous post of all time. I have 3 degrees and I have no earthly idea what point you are trying to make. I clearly understood what you typed but seriously! If you want to call out someone call them out.
Bla Bla Blah, What is your point F & L ? GO AWAY and preach to someone eles!
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Let me guess
Sounds like someone who has told us this over & over. I know these girls are in it for the money & I know many use but try to keep it on the DL. I think most realize this but many of the mongers are also fulfilling fantasies. I, personally, am just about the HE as I don't do GFE, DFK & definitely not DATY. I do have a SO & I do reserve the GFE for her only as I know it is mine only. It is only about sex for me. Yes, I enjoy it if the girl is personable & we are on a friendly basis but I have no illusions that I can make one of these ladies legs quiver from oxytocin overload. I do believe if you become a regular, are nice, clean, respectful & tip if they earn one that you can develop some kind of friendship albeit dysfunctional. If you truly feel as you do then you should quit mongering.
Originally Posted by FastAndLoose
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This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.
First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.
Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.
Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.
See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.
Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.
Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.
Sorry for calling bullshit.
Happy hunting.
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Originally Posted by FastAndLoose
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This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.
First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.
Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.
Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.
See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.
Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.
Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.
Sorry for calling bullshit.
Happy hunting.
First and Foremost,
I am a 22yr Old Provider and have been in the business 4 yrs! I do NOT have a Pimp / Nor a Drug Problem. I have many Regulars that are great Friends that have been there for me thru out the years. I do not Live in a Hotel, I own my own house / car (and definitely not a Lexus!). I go to School and Have a IRA already in place, Given I probably do make more than some of my clients their money goes to nothing but my bills, school tuition, and of course lavish gifts for myself which is well deserved. I say all of this to say [Text in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING Deleted by Admin]
EDITOR's NOTE: This report was redacted or deleted because it was written in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. Thanks!
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Alexis still around?
Tried to get in touch with Alexis, but her site is no longer up and no response from texts or emails. Anyone seen her recently or know what's going on? Saw a few post about her from the beginning of February but nothing recently.
Thanks
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LOL. Generalizations never quite work.
Originally Posted by FastAndLoose
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This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.
First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment.
Sorry for calling bullshit.
Happy hunting.
Your right on most of it most of the time. However, there's always something else in the world. Not always the way the generalizations you make say it is. Mostly yes but not always.
I got plenty of 20 somethings UTRS that enjoy every minute. Got ones that are acting too (I get bored with these and kick them to the curb very quickly). And yes "I" wouldn't be ENJOYING either type if the $$$ weren't there (even though they swear its not so. Yah right.) Happy to spot them that lie and not call them on it. Let them have their bit of denial too.
Well known to stop seeing them if I discover my tuition money is being diverted for drugs. Known to test them too. LOL.
But I don't usually hang with the serious pro's seeing guy after guy. I'm usually their only pay for play type. But I pay way way more for this privilege. I kick many to the curb if they graduate from semi-pro to pro.
Heck, places ones here drive into. Alone scare me.
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Hey Tolstoy
Originally Posted by FastAndLoose
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This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.
First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.
Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.
Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.
See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.
Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.
Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.
Sorry for calling bullshit.
Happy hunting.
Can you just give me the gist of this opus?
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Originally Posted by FastAndLoose
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This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.
First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.
Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.
Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.
See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.
Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.
Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.
Sorry for calling bullshit.
Happy hunting.
Addicted and loving it.
Good essay and maybe accurate in part. Maybe my ATF's do have a drug problem that I don't see, or don't want to see. I don't know. But I do know I like the rush of walking through the door of a gorgeous and complete stranger, confident in the knowing of what I am there for.
I for one can say, I am addicted to the warm touch and clean smell of a willing, and attractive, woman. I dare say 'I do know a few women who will, through you a free one once in a while, so I guess they like it too.
All in all I don't completely disagree with you. No doubt we could debate drugs for years with no quick answer. President Nixon declared the War on drugs on the early seventy's. Forty years later I see no real change. I just like the feel of my rose colored glasses.
Live long, love often, and fuck when you can, I am going to.
Nick
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And your point is?
Ok Pator Pete I read your post. It isn't the most infamous post of all time. I have 3 degrees and I have no earthly idea what point you are trying to make. I clearly understood what you typed but seriously! If you want to call out someone call them out.
Originally Posted by FastAndLoose
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This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.
First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.
Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.
Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.
See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.
Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.
Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.
Sorry for calling bullshit.
Happy hunting.
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Originally Posted by FastAndLoose
[View Original Post]
This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.
First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be...
Very well said.
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Let It Hit The Fan
This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.
First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.
Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.
Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.
See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.
Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.
Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.
Sorry for calling bullshit.
Happy hunting.
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