Massage Parlor Reports

[U Turn Man]

That's the obvious danger of this game. From what I know and asking my step brother who is a retired cop, for AMP raids LE won't record phone calls and send texts unless they feel like there's more to it than just prostitution. He said they'll usually just send a UC then record the sex act for money exchange talk and then the cards all come crashing down. Everyone here knows what we're walking into is illegal and know the risks but we go anyway right?

Good point that AMPs don't get raided a lot. I think all AMPs are pretty safe too. Paradise may have a sloppy mamasan though I've gotten the bait and switch 3 times total now and she was really cool when I asked over the phone and she might not have even known it was me I have a very common name and used different numbers to call before. But nothing lasts forever and girls get older or go move to a different city so I'm just going to enjoy it while it lasts knowing the risks hoping not to get caught up. It's not that complicated. It's this new VIP option that got people confused that's all. Even so I've never heard of anyone in over 2 decades say I'm not going to a specific AMP because they feel like it's not discreet enough.

[JTerry26]

The worst case scenario for anyone frequenting one of these establishments is that it's under surveillance.

If you're unlucky enough to be in attendance when it's raided, the circumstances where you can get into any actual trouble are usually pretty remote, as long as you keep your answers brief, your mouth otherwise shut and casually observe that it isn't a crime to be seeking a massage (a legal service), it isn't a crime to be carrying cash or protection on your person, and it isn't a crime to leave your I'd and valuables in your car.

But if they have your voice on tape inquiring about sexual services in exchange for payment and then they find you inside the establishment during a raid with cash to pay for the services you inquired about (and / or protection, if that's your thing), it's considerably more probable that they may decide to arrest you, and for the district attorney to seriously consider filing charges against you, if only to set an example.

That you may be able to actually beat the charges when the time comes is really no longer the issue.

The issue is now what would happen to your life if your mug shot was posted on a reputable news site alongside a story about a raid on the massage parlor which exposed a brothel "in disguise".

Negotiate those things when you get there. And whisper, if not using hand gestures exclusively.

Agree with all of this. I actually never say anything. I just lay down $160. Worst that has ever happened was finding out it is more (like last time I went to 9 VIP). But even that discussion is just "It's $220 now" or whatever it was. She knows I thought $160 was for FS and was just updating me on the pricing. But where I go most, I just lay it down and say nothing, even with a woman I have never seen before at that AMP. Never been burned. It also establishes you've been to an AMP before and know the deal.

I figure worst case is I get an overpriced massage and no sex. Worst case if I say "this $160 is for a CBJ and CFS, right?" is I get arrested. That said, the chance of getting arrested in an AMP is vanishingly small. Like there's, what, 30-40 AMPs in Philly, maybe more, with 2-6 woman seeing guys all day (say 5) so that's 40 x3 x5=1200 guys / day. How often is one busted? Once every few years? And when busted, it's usually the MMS and / or a few of the women. I'm sure it happens, but I can't remember a single guy being arrested. You're probably more likely to get run over by an unlicensed 4-wheeler on your walk over.

Anyway, the beauty in my mind is AMPs are super safe, zero sketch factor and very predictable. The good ones you even get a nice table shower and a decent massage and then some pretty leisurely sex. No drugs, no bullshit, no stealing. The downside is the somewhat random nature of who you get (another reason I go to the same place with a pretty stable. Over years. Group of women), it's not the cheapest sex available and everything is covered. For me, the latter isn't a downside although I do prefer a BBBJ.

[Jayke00]

I think it would be suicide for an AMP to answer any sex question on the phone

The worst case scenario for anyone frequenting one of these establishments is that it's under surveillance.

If you're unlucky enough to be in attendance when it's raided, the circumstances where you can get into any actual trouble are usually pretty remote, as long as you keep your answers brief, your mouth otherwise shut and casually observe that it isn't a crime to be seeking a massage (a legal service), it isn't a crime to be carrying cash or protection on your person, and it isn't a crime to leave your I'd and valuables in your car.

But if they have your voice on tape inquiring about sexual services in exchange for payment and then they find you inside the establishment during a raid with cash to pay for the services you inquired about (and / or protection, if that's your thing), it's considerably more probable that they may decide to arrest you, and for the district attorney to seriously consider filing charges against you, if only to set an example.

That you may be able to actually beat the charges when the time comes is really no longer the issue.

The issue is now what would happen to your life if your mug shot was posted on a reputable news site alongside a story about a raid on the massage parlor which exposed a brothel "in disguise".

Negotiate those things when you get there. And whisper, if not using hand gestures exclusively.

[U Turn Man]

I agree JTerry it's definitely not the smartest move for a mamasan to just give out the address prices sex acts etc. But I'm just letting it be known why my answer was what it was. You guys can tell that was my first text ever to them and she texted right back with sex acts and prices (Well first was hi where you guys located? To double check the address I had) So yes things did change in my case to Shampoo as a stranger asking without ever stepping foot yet. Is it like that everywhere else? I don't know because I never had to ask anything before text or call about anything besides setting up appointments. You might be thinking well it did not change because I didn't ask about BBFS but if she was willing to send me about BJ no condom suck pussy etc I think she would've answered me about that too imo. I just try to help if I can that's all. Same I would want help if I needed too. Ok think it's time for a little break from posting.
Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

Sam, you been nothing but helpful to me and everyone you can help. NGL, I wouldn't have even known about Paradise and Yoyo if not for you. You shared that information when Paradise was empty when you didn't have to. Respect. I would still be going to expensive EPM when the service is miles ahead at Paradise right now. Also, mamasan would've given you the answer if you asked about BBFS for sure. Appreciate your posts and insights always and thanks. I've contacted others before and most didn't even reply back to me I guess because of my # of posts but you helped me far and beyond. Just saying thanks and hope to see you back soon man.

[ArborWorks]

Had a good visit with Sarah last night. I enjoyed her enthusiasm from the start. Got cleaned up on the TS and then she slid around for a few teasing the whole time. Back in the room I didn't feel rushed. The enthusiasm continued and it felt like it was the closest to a GFE / PSE that I've ever had. She got into everything and either did a really good job of faking it or genuinely really enjoyed her self twice. She seemed pretty sad / disappointed that I finished quickly after we switched to me on top. I get the feeling that she might have had other plans for how to finish me off. All in all, I would repeat.

To those of you who've made suggestions of where to go since my last post, thank you. Hope my review helps someone else.

[Sam Katz]

I think it would be suicide for an AMP to answer any sex question on the phone, BB or not. I suppose if you were a regular recognized by the MMS you could certainly ask the MMS when you got there since she knows you're not a cop.

I agree JTerry it's definitely not the smartest move for a mamasan to just give out the address prices sex acts etc. But I'm just letting it be known why my answer was what it was. You guys can tell that was my first text ever to them and she texted right back with sex acts and prices (Well first was hi where you guys located? To double check the address I had) So yes things did change in my case to Shampoo as a stranger asking without ever stepping foot yet. Is it like that everywhere else? I don't know because I never had to ask anything before text or call about anything besides setting up appointments. You might be thinking well it did not change because I didn't ask about BBFS but if she was willing to send me about BJ no condom suck pussy etc I think she would've answered me about that too imo. But maybe I'm wrong I'm not going to ask her to find out though when we already got the answer. I was new to this spot at the time think late September? And was hunting CMPs like I stated before. I just wanted to know the price and if I can see any pictures since other mamasans sent me pictures before ever stepping foot (Yes I posted them on a different site along with more screenshots I remember and maybe this site too I forget but I'm sure you guys seen it already if not it's there).

Don't know if she would still return a message like that now that they are much more busy and established but if it worked for me as a stranger to ask I would think why not for another guy here. But when things are not black and white like that BBFS that's the best answer I could give. I thought I would just get a donation number back at most or maybe no reply at all but hey I got answered everytime. Regardless, it ended up helping alot of people indirectly at the end of the day.

If / When Mamasan reads this, don't kill me! I'm not calling you dumb. Just agreeing and talking about everyones safety including yours and the girls that's all. We're great friends remember!

I just try to help if I can that's all. Same I would want help if I needed too. Ok think it's time for a little break from posting.

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

[JTerry26]

Um, ah, er. You can ask about BBFS up front at an AMP? Few times I have tried that I got hung up on. Have seen a Mamasan hang up on dudes asking about any specific sex act and especially if they as "how much for _specific sex act_ ".

Maybe things have changed?

I think it would be suicide for an AMP to answer any sex question on the phone, BB or not. I suppose if you were a regular recognized by the MMS you could certainly ask the MMS when you got there since she knows you're not a cop.

There's also AMPs without a MMS, like AZN Delight. There the woman who is up for the next customer, or the one you booked, meets you at the door. I suppose in those situations you could negotiate with the women. I've frequently gotten BBBJs there and offers of BBBJCIM. I've dipped a little BBFS (like a dozen strokes) with someone I had seen a lot at the time but I've never specifically asked for either.

[Sam Katz]

I called mamasan she knows me well by now. Her exact words were "some girls will for more money" I asked how much more? She replied "all girls different its up to them" so there is no final answer. It's YMMV.

Thank you bro. It's YMMV period. I can explain more but what's talked about in the PMs are private for a reason. I'll just say 1 thing, Yoyo is not a 100% no for BBFS.

Hope everyone is good and stays safe.

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

[U Turn Man]

Um, ah, er. You can ask about BBFS up front at an AMP? Few times I have tried that I got hung up on. Have seen a Mamasan hang up on dudes asking about any specific sex act and especially if they as "how much for _specific sex act_ ".

Maybe things have changed?

I called mamasan she knows me well by now. Her exact words were "some girls will for more money" I asked how much more? She replied "all girls different its up to them" so there is no final answer. It's YMMV.

[Shampoo55]

But I would advise anyone planning to go to ask first if they interested in BBFS and ask like I stated in the last post be straight up yes or no? no condom sex? VIP? Price?

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

Um, ah, er. You can ask about BBFS up front at an AMP? Few times I have tried that I got hung up on. Have seen a Mamasan hang up on dudes asking about any specific sex act and especially if they as "how much for _specific sex act_ ".

Maybe things have changed?

[OskarM]

Laziness of not walking to Race won last night. I stopped at Ludlow. Nana was not there, I accepted Candy. I would not do it again. Candy is a Cali girl listing her ethnicity as Philippino, Thai, Spanish,. She is friendly and nice but with lots rules. She is thick (like a barrel). She spent decent time on my back which was tied up in knots and that was the best part of the evening. YMMV.

[Sam Katz]

Hey just to clarify. That image of text messages states no condom only for BJ, not for FS Sam. I think you might have this VIP service confused with others. As Comatoast said, I believe anything extra is YMMV for sure and not standard with upgrade at all.

That's the exact reason why I said make sure. I knew there might be some confusion and didn't want to let Tazdude down. I also think it's a YMMV thing because people have claimed to have gotten it but Yoyo doesn't do it I'm pretty sure since 3 mongers all had a similar experience as mine which was teasing at the door. So could be only certain providers? But I would advise anyone planning to go to ask first if they interested in BBFS and ask like I stated in the last post be straight up yes or no? no condom sex? VIP? Price?

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

[PDomaine]

Any spinners or recommendations for New Star? Last time I posted was on Tina who was not my body or face type but WOW it was an amazing session.

Thanks,

PDomaine.

[Jonesy1972]

Paradise doesn't openly advertise BBFS. The "no condom" is for BBBJ. Yoyo doesn't offer more than a peek inside if you're lucky. Everyone else there is YMMV.

True. Nothing more than a peek. I think yoyo is monopolizing time. The others aren't getting much work, so I'm sure the bfs is most likely guided toward the other girls.

[RobRbt101]

She gets very close I was poking knocking on her door and peeked in for a sec but she got it out and body language told me she isn't down. I don't do BBFS so I didn't ask for a deal and price and all but this "VIP" thing is going to be normalized soon just like the change from CBJs to everywhere doing BBBJs. I would call and ask because the mamasan texted me a long time ago way back this saying no condom. But things might have changed things might be the same. I say call to make sure. I would simply send the screenshot I posted and ask her what exactly do I get for "VIP"? So that there is no confusion once you arrive. Straight up ask no condom sex? VIP? OK? And book that appointment! I wish I was in PA right now to enjoy too but hopefully she's still there in 2-3 weeks.

Mamasan is cool, she will give you a definite answer. Be safe bro.

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

Hey just to clarify. That image of text messages states no condom only for BJ, not for FS Sam. I think you might have this VIP service confused with others. As Comatoast said, I believe anything extra is YMMV for sure and not standard with upgrade at all.