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  1. #3134
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/-/30862006

    In the above link she's real and legit. Clean and safe incall in the northeast. She's actually hot and pretty. Her pictures make her look thick but she's actually tall and slender. For what you get the donation is fair and she looks better then 90% what is available.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/warnin...ctive/32468829

    She's is real. I recommend her. Works in the Northeast at a clean and safe incall. BD is open. Pictures are old but she still has the same frame.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/sexi-lexi/31608654

    Lexi is real. Clean quiet incall location. The only downside is that she likes to party hard and you can see that is has taken its toll. Her right forearm even though it has healed looks deformed due to party usage and her midsection needs some work. Donations are a little steep considering some of those pictures are old but incall is safe and she has skills.
    I appreciate the info Lance! I'll check a couple out for sure!

  2. #3133
    Quote Originally Posted by Merge1  [View Original Post]
    The supply has gone down, for sure, with the demise of Craigslist and Backpage. Back then, many entrepreneurial women were able to figure out how to get into it on their own, or with a bit of advice.

    Now, the platforms like STG are very off-putting to women who once might have given it a try.

    Now there's the virus, keeping even more out, especially the ones who mainly wanted to work part-time to supplement their income some, or for some extra spending money.

    When supply goes down, prices go up.
    I could not disagree with parts o this more. From this chair, the supply level is fine. What I do observe is many pine for the old days with just one dominate site (BP). Now there are many sites and guys and girls just need to find them. So if STG is off putting, there are other options. Interesting that many internet savvy types can't find escort advertising sites.

    Prices go up because guys are ignorant, weak or lazy. This isn't like the grocery store, prices are negotiable. BUT one has to be willing to negotiate as many hate doing that.

    But what happened to girls? If they were able to find sites or get into it on their own 'back then', what changed that they can't do that now?

    BP was a sewer, not some holy grail site. Lots of hood rats, scammers, pimps, etc. At one point in BP history there were posts of girls with one leg pointed north and the other pointed south. Yeah, it was easy, but still required sifting, sorting and some awareness to avoid trouble, The closest thing to that these days is listcrawler. Doesn't seem to be any lack of supply there!

    So those who think supply has gone down and thus they need to pay more are part of the problem. COVID goes both ways, fewer guys in the mix. So why pay a premium because the girl has fewer clients?

    Just the view from this perspective.

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    Erotic monkey.

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    Backpagegals.

    Escortfish.

    Escortindex.

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    Theclssifieds.

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    Megapersonals (similar content as listcrawler (.

    Harlothub.

    Adultlook.

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    Cgescorts.

    Tryst.

  3. #3132
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki2472  [View Original Post]
    I didn't think anyone would ask about them. I've never had the pleasure of having a session with Liz, but then again when ever I would check on listcrawler she had mixed reviews. But star I do kinda miss, one of my top 5 for a bbj and you don't really find talent like that often. She really like to talk though and I don't mind as long as service is good. Last time I seen star she informed me that Liz died of heart failure due to her constant drug use despite the warnings from her doctor. She seemed really torn up about it. She also share her plans of moving to South Jersey to be with her family so she would have a better support system to quite her heavy drug use. She had already already been down there and gotten a job at a warehouse. But she was visiting Philly because she can make more money easy but taking part in the game. Guess Liz's death scared her straight, she text me once asking if I wanted to do a session in south jersey. A week or so after that she stop responding to texts and I haven't seen ads for her anywhere seen than. Even in South jersey. But that's all I know on the matter. If someone's till sees her I would like to have her current contact information. But I'm happy that she changed up her life before the covid-19 hit.
    I'm not surprised. I figured that's what happened. Liz got a second shot at life with her second heart surgery and fresh out the hospital she's making runs down to Clearfield and Kensington. It was only a matter of time. I met her before her second heart surgery and she looked great and had a good shot then but after she had her second heart surgery and was still using she went downhill fast.

    Thanks for the update. BTW, Liz was one of the best also. Those reviews aren't always accurate. Liz didn't tolerate disrespect or aggressiveness. A date was probably upset he couldn't have is way with her and decided to leave bad reviews.

  4. #3131

    Star and Liz

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    Anyone know what happened to Liz or Star? The duo from the northeast who mostly did cardates? I remember star moved to NJ but they both just fell off the map. I know Liz was in the hospital a while back for 3 months for heart related surgery.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/liz-in...ecials/7157319
    I didn't think anyone would ask about them. I've never had the pleasure of having a session with Liz, but then again when ever I would check on listcrawler she had mixed reviews. But star I do kinda miss, one of my top 5 for a bbj and you don't really find talent like that often. She really like to talk though and I don't mind as long as service is good. Last time I seen star she informed me that Liz died of heart failure due to her constant drug use despite the warnings from her doctor. She seemed really torn up about it. She also share her plans of moving to South Jersey to be with her family so she would have a better support system to quite her heavy drug use. She had already already been down there and gotten a job at a warehouse. But she was visiting Philly because she can make more money easy but taking part in the game. Guess Liz's death scared her straight, she text me once asking if I wanted to do a session in south jersey. A week or so after that she stop responding to texts and I haven't seen ads for her anywhere seen than. Even in South jersey. But that's all I know on the matter. If someone's till sees her I would like to have her current contact information. But I'm happy that she changed up her life before the covid-19 hit.

  5. #3130

    Info

    Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated.

    [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/pennsylvania/philadelphia/53587050/[/UR]

  6. #3129
    Anyone know what happened to Liz or Star? The duo from the northeast who mostly did cardates? I remember star moved to NJ but they both just fell off the map. I know Liz was in the hospital a while back for 3 months for heart related surgery.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/liz-in...ecials/7157319

  7. #3128
    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/-/30862006

    In the above link she's real and legit. Clean and safe incall in the northeast. She's actually hot and pretty. Her pictures make her look thick but she's actually tall and slender. For what you get the donation is fair and she looks better then 90% what is available.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/warnin...ctive/32468829

    She's is real. I recommend her. Works in the Northeast at a clean and safe incall. BD is open. Pictures are old but she still has the same frame.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/sexi-lexi/31608654

    Lexi is real. Clean quiet incall location. The only downside is that she likes to party hard and you can see that is has taken its toll. Her right forearm even though it has healed looks deformed due to party usage and her midsection needs some work. Donations are a little steep considering some of those pictures are old but incall is safe and she has skills.

  8. #3127
    Quote Originally Posted by Merge1  [View Original Post]
    The supply has gone down, for sure, with the demise of Craigslist and Backpage. Back then, many entrepreneurial women were able to figure out how to get into it on their own, or with a bit of advice.

    Now, the platforms like STG are very off-putting to women who once might have given it a try.

    Now there's the virus, keeping even more out, especially the ones who mainly wanted to work part-time to supplement their income some, or for some extra spending money.

    When supply goes down, prices go up.
    Exactly, that's the way I see it. The way things are now websites that gain popularity and trust eventually get shut down and that really disrupts the flow and momentum. Right now everyone is in freelance / freestyle mode and it is going to be this way for some time.

  9. #3126
    Quote Originally Posted by WookieWonka  [View Original Post]
    Lets also not forget that with current levels of technology its easy and cheap for gilrs to set up their own webcam shows, content channels and market to niche customer base. Like gamer girls selling their bath water for 50 bucks an ounce or dirty panties / socks. (also is just me but where the hell did all the foot fetish people come from all of a sudden? They can generate a steady cash flow from safety of their bedroom / apartment and use that as a cover to work whales and do big money tours with well vetted customers who pay through the nose for a girl who knows everything about his favorite anime or video game and dresses like his favorite characters /.
    Yep, and now the big thing is the OnlyFans website. Those type of girls love the idea of being able to sell their sexually without actually having a male even touch them or even put out. Even during covid times it's sad that guys go that route.

    Porn,

  10. #3125
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    In 2015-2017 when CL / Backpage was up, in the Philly area, a ss incall was 60 with someone who was hot. A hot WF or Asian was about 70-80 for incall ss in safe location.

    The thing is, back in those days there was a lot more talent (due to the opioid crisis) and it seemed like every week there was a fresh new addition of talent even if they came from out of state. That's what partly kept the prices low, just a larger pool of talent who were looking for work and had a platform (BP / CL) to use.

    Now the prices are high because there is far far fewer talent. There is fewer talent because this city and country has taken measures to combat the opioid epidemic and FOSTA-SESTA in 2018.
    Lets also not forget that with current levels of technology its easy and cheap for gilrs to set up their own webcam shows, content channels and market to niche customer base. Like gamer girls selling their bath water for 50 bucks an ounce or dirty panties / socks. (also is just me but where the hell did all the foot fetish people come from all of a sudden? They can generate a steady cash flow from safety of their bedroom / apartment and use that as a cover to work whales and do big money tours with well vetted customers who pay through the nose for a girl who knows everything about his favorite anime or video game and dresses like his favorite characters /.

  11. #3124

    Supply

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    In 2015-2017 when CL / Backpage was up, in the Philly area, a ss incall was 60 with someone who was hot. A hot WF or Asian was about 70-80 for incall ss in safe location.

    The thing is, back in those days there was a lot more talent (due to the opioid crisis) and it seemed like every week there was a fresh new addition of talent even if they came from out of state. That's what partly kept the prices low, just a larger pool of talent who were looking for work and had a platform (BP / CL) to use.

    Now the prices are high because there is far far fewer talent. There is fewer talent because this city and country has taken measures to combat the opioid epidemic and FOSTA-SESTA in 2018.
    The supply has gone down, for sure, with the demise of Craigslist and Backpage. Back then, many entrepreneurial women were able to figure out how to get into it on their own, or with a bit of advice.

    Now, the platforms like STG are very off-putting to women who once might have given it a try.

    Now there's the virus, keeping even more out, especially the ones who mainly wanted to work part-time to supplement their income some, or for some extra spending money.

    When supply goes down, prices go up.

  12. #3123

    Over Paying

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    In 2015-2017 when CL / Backpage was up, in the Philly area, a ss incall was 60 with someone who was hot. A hot WF or Asian was about 70-80 for incall ss in safe location.

    The thing is, back in those days there was a lot more talent (due to the opioid crisis) and it seemed like every week there was a fresh new addition of talent even if they came from out of state. That's what partly kept the prices low, just a larger pool of talent who were looking for work and had a platform (BP / CL) to use.

    Now the prices are high because there is far far fewer talent. There is fewer talent because this city and country has taken measures to combat the opioid epidemic and FOSTA-SESTA in 2018.
    This is simple, about the guys, not some economic theory about supply & demand. There is plenty of product out there despite best efforts to curb it. Sure there was a slow down due to COVID, but the supply has returned. Maybe some don't know where or how to look for the supply and thus have an impression of less of it?

    The reason prices have gone up is dudes are "willing to pay" them. That is because there is a new wave of Mongers entering the hobby. Those with no clue of history and unwilling to learn anything since they know it all already or they get info from looking at the wrong sources.

    Reason #1 Ignorance. Guys with no idea of what the rates are, just see what is advertised and think that is the rate.

    Reason #2 Ignorance2 - guys so use to paying list price for everything they don't realize that EVERYTHING in the hobby is negotiable.

    Reason #3 Lazy or too meek: Unwilling to negotiate, hate to negotiate, too timid, no idea how to negotiate, so just pay what is asked.

    Reason #4 Milk Toast. So desperate for a girl's attention they will give up their power in a heart beat.

    So perhaps a discussion of negotiating techniques is in order to help some learn? Bottom line: NEVER PAY LIST PRICE!

  13. #3122
    In 2015-2017 when CL / Backpage was up, in the Philly area, a ss incall was 60 with someone who was hot. A hot WF or Asian was about 70-80 for incall ss in safe location.

    The thing is, back in those days there was a lot more talent (due to the opioid crisis) and it seemed like every week there was a fresh new addition of talent even if they came from out of state. That's what partly kept the prices low, just a larger pool of talent who were looking for work and had a platform (BP / CL) to use.

    Now the prices are high because there is far far fewer talent. There is fewer talent because this city and country has taken measures to combat the opioid epidemic and FOSTA-SESTA in 2018.

  14. #3121
    Quote Originally Posted by Harpua65  [View Original Post]
    Thought I saw info on this one before here. See she's now trying to make money on onlyfans as well. Thought I read she danced at 19th hole and BP previously. So my type as my big cock loves little women.

    https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/everyb...ipper/32265986
    I met her on kensington ave like 2 years ago.

    She's nice but overcharges nowdays.

    Teeth kinda messed up.

    A lot of stupid people overpaying.

    She says 100 short stay LOL fuck that shit.

    I use to see her for 50 bucks long stay.

  15. #3120
    Quote Originally Posted by Strange  [View Original Post]
    If no one pays stupid prices the market comes back to normal. Don't be an idiot. That's addressed to everyone.
    You're exactly right but the problem is the area sucks- Philly. Montco, Bucks, etc and there's basically zero talent out there. The guys know it so they pay more. The girls know it so they charge more.

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