General Reports

[Very Dvs]

800 numbers use ANI (Automatic Number Identification). The number cannot be blocked, so your traceable. Calling cards usually won't allow calls to 800 numbers.

Now, you can use caller ID spoofing which allows any number to be displayed on the cell phone that you desire, but a reminder ANI will track you. Some corporations have ANI and thus blocking numbers as private doesn't work.

Skype, apparently doesn't do caller ID well, either.

Caller ID details:
http://egyed.com/faq/cid.htm

This is an old trick that has been working for years. When it first started, you could call someone from their own cell number and the system would put you into their voicemail. Now, there are some phones, like you said, that won't even allow this trick to work at all.

[Spazen]

800 numbers use ANI (Automatic Number Identification). The number cannot be blocked, so your traceable. Calling cards usually won't allow calls to 800 numbers.

Now, you can use caller ID spoofing which allows any number to be displayed on the cell phone that you desire, but a reminder ANI will track you. Some corporations have ANI and thus blocking numbers as private doesn't work.

Skype, apparently doesn't do caller ID well, either.

Caller ID details:
http://egyed.com/faq/cid.htm

[Love AMPs]

Thanks guys, but none of you seemed to understand that I DO want the phone to show a number, just no connection to my name..... I want to call girls who post on CL who will only answer if you call from an unblocked number but I do not want them or anyone else to have my name associated with that number.

I don't get it, Davey, how can you "go online and pay with cash"?

-- Forth Ryte

FR, I had the same problem as you. I was using my office cell, with the number blocked for hobbying. Not smart and not safe.

I went to Wal-Mart and bought a $12.88 tracphone and a 30 minute prepaid card for (I think) around $15. Paid cash. No questions asked.

Activating the phone was quick and easy. Dial an 800 number, enter basic information (about the only thing they needed that was somewhat personal was my ZIP code so they can assign a phone # to me, but I used a ZIP adjacent to me to be safe). Very quick and easy. There is absolutely NO way they can track the phone to me.

The phone now has it's own number. I use the phone only for hobbying. It's turned off on days I'm not hobbying. When I call a number with caller ID, my phone number shows up. Makes CL calls much easier. (The obvious question is why are CL providers so hung up about blocked/private calls? If they knew how easy it was to get a phone number anonymously, they would know that seeing a "real" phone number guarantees nothing.)

Only problem with pre-paid calls is you get charged for outgoing and incoming calls. Not expensive, just annoying. And the minutes DO expire after about 6 months or so.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

[Sam Iam]

Thanks guys, but none of you seemed to understand that I DO want the phone to show a number, just no connection to my name..... I want to call girls who post on CL who will only answer if you call from an unblocked number but I do not want them or anyone else to have my name associated with that number.

I don't get it, Davey, how can you "go online and pay with cash"?

-- Forth Ryte

You can buy a prepaid card at a store like 7-11 and the card has a code on it. then you enter the code online. I have used it before as I have a prepaid phone and if someone traces the phone to you, ohhh I lost it months ago. If I call my house with the Virgin Mobile phone I have the caller id says wireless call.

[Very Dvs]

i would never patronize a place that has **** girls. i have never been to one in philly and hope that i never run across a place like that.

i 100% agree with this statement. if someone is ****, they should be focused on school and the normal things kids enjoy. if someone is over 18, they are old enough to die in iraq, they should be old enough to make a living or do what they choose.

the other night, there was an msnbc investigates special about "human trafficking." during this hour long documentary, the reporters focused on women from russia, who are lured to the united states under false pretenses i.e. to get jobs working as secretaries or models, then once they get here they are "forced" into prostitution or stripping.

ok, i call b.s. why would anyone have to force russian girls into prostitution or stripping? i have been to russia and eastern europe. there are more working girls than there are baptists at the wedding of two cousins in arkansas. seriously, all these girls want to talk about is, "the united states this" or "the united states that." anyone could offer these women a ticket to the united states, tell them they have to work for you for a year to pay it off and you would have more women lined up than you could put to work.

wouldn't kidnapping and imprisoning these women as slaves be risky? wouldn't you increase your risk of one of them escaping and telling the authorities? wouldn't their work not be as enthusiastic? there is no logical reason to "force" women into this business. i don't buy it for a minute.

look, i am not saying it never happens, but logically, it would have to be far and few between. from a business point of view, there is no reason to "force" these women to do anything, when there are more willing participants than pimps know what to do with.

[Very Dvs]

This clampdown is a disgrace. With all the problems in this country today, you would think the politicians and LE would have something better to do. They don't. Let's face it, there's going to be another terrorist attack in this country (my guess is it will be a smuggled Pakistani nuclear device in NY or DC). LE isn't up to this challenge, so they go after poor women and their male customers who are bothering no one, only because it's easy.

I post this in another forum, but it is relevant to this topic, so I am going to cross post it here, about the bust of an escort in Missouri. She advertised on Craig's List, which is how Uncle Leo got her.

Are you going to sleep better knowing she is off the street? I know I will!

:: please note extreme sarcasm ::

Here is my problem(s) with busting this girl. Not only should acts in a bedroom, between two consenting adults, be something between two adults, but there is another element(s) to this situation.

The first element is the abuse of the statute. She was charged with a felony, because this occurred within 1,000 ft of a daycare. The intent of the legislature was to keep street walkers away from schools, daycares, etc. because no one wants their kids around Johns doing u-turn in the middle of the road, pimps moonlighting as crack dealers on the corner or streetwalkers walking up to cars, which is understandable.

This young lady was arrested after posting on Craig's List, this transaction most likely occurred indoors, behind closed doors and it is outside the scope of the state legislature's intent. The prosecutor knows this, the police know this, but they are abusing the statute to catch a headline and appear, "Hard on crime!" Let it be noted, they achieved their goal and the local rag ran the article, because it was more entertaining than what a bushel of soy beans closed at on a commodity market.

The second disturbing element of this case are the resources that will be allocated to it. Between testifying in court, writing reports, the "sting," the "investigation" to find this girl, etc. it took two detectives three days. Detectives make 60k/year, 2x their pay goes to workman's comp, benefits, etc. That means each of these detectives is worth 180k/year to the taxpayer. With a five day work week and four weeks paid vacation, including holidays and sick days, three days of these guys time cost the taxpayer $4,500.

The next cost is the prosecutor who is making 70k/yr, who will spend half a day on this case, and oh yes, between case review, time in court, negotiations with the public defender, etc, half a day in court, at a cost of $500 to the taxpayer.

She is being charged with a felony, so she is facing a minimum of a year and a day in prison. The average cost of incarceration in Missouri is $14,005/yr, which is one of the lower rates in the United States, but that is still awfully expensive. Let's tack on two years probation/parole, at a cost of $5,000 to the taxpayer.

The judge, bailiffs, heating the courthouse, public defender etc. all cost money. Do you see what I am getting at here? None of this is free. Before everything is all said and done, this case will end up costing the taxpayer $40,000.

I am not anti-police, but the police should be out doing things like hunting down terrorists, armed robbers, etc. Has anyone driven through North or East St. Louis lately? You can't tell me there is not enough work to keep these guys busy.

Our economy is in a recession, our schools are a mess, children are going without food and roads are not being repaired. With all of this occurring, we are wasting our resources on this case? I call BS.

This was my rant, and I feel better now. If you ever hear anyone talking about the legality of prostitution, don't forget to let them know what the cost of busting a working girl is. Everyone in our society should be outraged over a case like this. The most ironic part of this, almost all of us have decent jobs, we are taxpayers, and we are the ones supporting this gestapo crap, with our hard earned tax dollars.

[Forth Ryte]

Thanks guys, but none of you seemed to understand that I DO want the phone to show a number, just no connection to my name..... I want to call girls who post on CL who will only answer if you call from an unblocked number but I do not want them or anyone else to have my name associated with that number.

I don't get it, Davey, how can you "go online and pay with cash"?

-- Forth Ryte

[Sjguy62]

This clampdown is a disgrace. With all the problems in this country today, you would think the politicians and LE would have something better to do. They don't. Let's face it, there's going to be another terrorist attack in this country (my guess is it will be a smuggled Pakistani nuclear device in NY or DC). LE isn't up to this challenge, so they go after poor women and their male customers who are bothering no one, only because it's easy.

[Barthomer2005]

....this clampdown is stupid...now who's gonna jerk me off??

Mayor Michael Bustyour Nutter

[Iorek]

amp are under attack by le nationwide. coast to coast! in san fransisco, the mayor has vowed to shut them all down. there have been raids going on for months now. the thing that really bothers me most, is it is just going to force all these providers out on the streets. they do not just simply go away, they move into other avenues. also, as the economy worsens (and trust me it is going to get real bad, real soon) more and more women are going to turn to the oldest profession. when will our government learn we need to regulate it and stop trying to enforce laws that don't work with an iron fist? that being said, i'm all for shutting down these traffickers and slave traders. no woman should have to work as a prostitute unless she willingly chooses to do so. those who promote **** prostitution should be given a jail cell with bubba. aside from that, women who choose to work under their own free will, she be given the means to safely do so.

contrary to what the powers that be think, there are many women who actually enjoy this line of work. i've met many of them over the years.

i'm with you 100%, its crazy that fornicatin' for free or stealing someones wife is totally legal...well not legal but has no criminal penalty assigned to it but the provision of physical/mental "stress relief" for a negotiated fee brings out the zealots and the sledgehammer of moral indignation and believes it can stamp a thing like this out.

this clampdown is stupid...now who's gonna jerk me off??

[Davey1965]

Guys, I didn't know where else to post this question. Maybe one of you knows. There are cell phones you can buy in drug stores, Radio Shack, etc. where you pre-pay the minutes.
I'd like to know, if I buy one, can I pay cash so there is no record of me connected to the phone? Do I need to show an ID (again, don't want the number connected to me)? When I call somone using that type of phone, will the number show on their caller ID? Its OK with me if the number shows but not my name.

Answers and info helpful. PM or here. Thanx.

-- Forth Ryte

Just use the 800 number to set up the phone (block the number you are
calling from) and always buy the minutes online with cash. Alot of the
prepaid phones now have tracking (the gov. says its for our safety)
that you can't turn off. I still have a few of the old ones that either
don't have it, or can be turned off. Might want to search on ebay
to find an older one if that function not being there is important
to you.

[Guysmiley1980]

Fort,

I just purchased a pre-paid Go Phone at Wal-Mart with cash and there was absolutely no questions asked. In the book, it says that you have to go to att.com/activations or dial a Toll-Free number to set up the phone to get a number. I started to tinker with the online portion, but it asked me for the SIM Card number. I am going to use the phone as a backup to a phone that I broke, so I don't want to mess it up. Good luck

[Guysmiley1980]

i totally agree that as the economy gets worse, it is going to be a booming business. i wonder if it could mean that prices will be lowered to help out. i have noticed on tbd and ter that some of the escorts are lowering their prices to help out, because otherwise, they may not get any visitors.

i would never patronize a place that has **** girls. i have never been to one in philly and hope that i never run across a place like that.

[T Shirt]

Guys, I didn't know where else to post this question. Maybe one of you knows. There are cell phones you can buy in drug stores, Radio Shack, etc. where you pre-pay the minutes.

I'd like to know, if I buy one, can I pay cash so there is no record of me connected to the phone? Do I need to show an ID (again, don't want the number connected to me)? When I call somone using that type of phone, will the number show on their caller ID? Its OK with me if the number shows but not my name.

Answers and info helpful. PM or here. Thanx.

-- Forth Ryte

You can put those in any name you want. I've bought a few and just put them in the girls name even though she wasn't with me.

T

[Forth Ryte]

Guys, I didn't know where else to post this question. Maybe one of you knows. There are cell phones you can buy in drug stores, Radio Shack, etc. where you pre-pay the minutes.
I'd like to know, if I buy one, can I pay cash so there is no record of me connected to the phone? Do I need to show an ID (again, don't want the number connected to me)? When I call somone using that type of phone, will the number show on their caller ID? Its OK with me if the number shows but not my name.

Answers and info helpful. PM or here. Thanx.

-- Forth Ryte