General Reports

[Mad Monger]

I posted this a while ago in the Law Enforcement Information Thread hoping that someone nationwide might respond. Perhaps that thread is too hard to find or maybe nobody looks at it or maybe nobody cares, but I thought I would re-post it here and see if there was a better response.

I have a friend (yes, he really is a friend and not I) who was caught in his car with a SW by LE. It caused me to wonder what might happen if I were in similar circumstances and what I should do.

It was at night. The squad car pulled up suddenly alongside them on a deserted city street and flashed a bright light in the window. She was partially dressed and had her head in his lap for obvious reasons. He had his pants pulled part way down. The cops immediately asked for ID. First they got the SW out of his car and started questioning her. Their first and immediate concerns were if she had any outstanding warrants and whether she was on drugs or had any drugs on her. Fortunately she had no warrants, had no drugs and told the truth that she was in a methadone program and trying to get her life back together. When asked what she was doing, she said she was just trying to make some money to help pay the bills. My friend cringed as this was tantamount to admitting she was having sex for money...was it not? Would a better strategy have been to say something like they had met at a restaurant (agree which one it was beforehand?), hit it off and were just having some fun? (Still public lewdness or some damn thing if they want to press it?) Maybe agreeing in advance on a story to tell in the event you are surprised by LE is a good plan?

Anyway, the police in this instance let the SW go and she walked away. They kept him stewing there while they checked his paperwork. Everything was in order and up to date: license, insurance, registration. My friend had no record for anything in his life, not even an outstanding parking ticket, which I am sure the police soon discovered. But they let him sweat over it for a while before asking him a few questions like was he married and did he have any kids (yes to both questions). They asked accusingly what the hell he thought he was doing and he just shrugged sheepishly. He wasn't about to babble like the SW had. Whether anything would stick or not he certainly didn't want to be arrested and have the circumstances revealed to the wife when he called to arrange an attorney and/or get bail. As it was they said they would let him go "this time," but they didn't want to see him in this area again EVER.

A few questions come to mind:

1. What are some good strategies to plan in advance with a SW to be prepared for this type of situation?

2. Does one have complicit criminal responsibility if the SW has outstanding warrants or has drugs on her person? Suppose she stashes them in your vehicle quickly (and stupidly)?

3. When a SW blabs her head off like that and virtually admits you were having sex for money, what should one do if questioned: disagree? lie? tell the truth and hope for leniency? invoke your right to silence and perhaps piss them off enough to arrest you?

4. IF you both have a story in advance that you are 2 people who met and hit it off and were just having fun, and you stick to the story (which the police probably won't believe anyway), do you risk pissing them off and having them arrest you on some other charge? What charges might those be? (public lewdness or indecency?)

5. I suppose invoking your rights to be silent and not allowing voluntary search are good starts but does one risk pushing the police not to be lenient and just let you go if your record is clean?

6. How much leeway does LE generally exercise in this type of circumstance when your paperwork is in order and you have a squeaky clean record. Is my friend's experience typical or does it really depend on the officers involved and/or where it takes place?

7. Do the police keep a record of the incident and can they use it against my friend on a future occasion to be much less lenient?

[Proxysss]

Kristen is back, she is a little curvier then in the past. She is currently staying with a girlfriend on the Ave. I recently changed phones and lost a few key numbers. Can someone private message me with Holly and Megan's number?

I will reciprocate.

[Vms124]

I don't know if I missed something, I apologize, but I noticed that the Pics/Photo thread by DukePV has been closed. I think those photos are very useful to fellow mongers since we use it as reference to identify beauties on the K. Can somebody open one for 2010? I'm a regular member so I can't create a thread. Can one of the seniors open one please?

Thanks.

[Davey1965]

PS: Yo Davey, you still owe me a cup of coffee one of these days ha-ha.

Anytime, just say when !. I've actually been spending very little time out on the ave as of late. But drop me a PM as I'm usually avail on the weekends and would meet up with you at Martins for a coffee break.

[T Shirt]

T Shirt, How you been?

CookyJar

Thanks for asking, been great Cook. How about yourself? As far as hobbying goes I still pretty much stick to two girls that I've been dating for quite some time now. The only time I did something with someone other than the 2 that I associate on a daily basis with was Alexus and that was probably 2 months ago. The date was ok but she was just way too hung up on the money thing for me. I remember telling her I was going out to eat when I finished with her so she says after I do my meds you can come back and get me in a half hour or so and I'll go out with you to eat since you seem to be a fun guy to just hang out with for a while. I think I gave her 2 Jacks and a Ham but when I call her back in about 45 min. (delayed the dining so she could see the doc.) she then tells me I can't really go out to eat I need to make more money and offers me a pretty good deal but that was beside the point for me. I didn't really feel like hearing money woes after only 45 minutes passed and now I'm 45 minutes hungrier LOL. I just told her I'm not interested in that right now and maybe I'll catch you another time, go make your money, I'm going to dinner. She calls every few weeks but I never answer the calls. I was going to pay for the meal too but we all knew that anyway. I feel that when you first meet someone you should at least tell the truth the first few times you're with them then ease the bs in a little at a time. If you get bs the very first time it never gets better just deeper. Don't get on much anymore but I still keep tabs from time to time. Stay safe everybody. T PS: Yo Davey, you still owe me a cup of coffee one of these days ha-ha.

[CookyJar]

My mistake. The girl I was talking to out on Allegheny was Katie and not Kate. The one I was talking to I don't think anyone would be looking for after some of the things I read about her. Sorry for not paying more attention to the name. T

T Shirt, How you been?

CookyJar

[T Shirt]

Guess you haven't been looking hard enough, as I still see Kate almost everytime I'm there. She is harder to find (if that want you want) as she has been smart enough over the years to keep a cell phone with the same number and never screw over customers. She has developed a nice customer base. Many times you'll see her get out of one car, only to have another there waiting for her.

My mistake. The girl I was talking to out on Allegheny was Katie and not Kate. The one I was talking to I don't think anyone would be looking for after some of the things I read about her. Sorry for not paying more attention to the name. T

[CookyJar]

She is harder to find (if that want you want) as she has been smart enough over the years to keep a cell phone with the same number and never screw over customers.

I've never dated Kate. I like seeing her whenever I stopped by the Donut shop. Seeing her familiar face always made me feel good. Seeing her, meant everything was alright in god’s heaven. Not seeing her was like finding out the earth had suddenly tilted and life as we know it was changing.

I’ve never seen her leave or come back. She always seemed to just be there, waiting. I give her credit, she is classy.

My main point was; after the change in management, I haven’t noticed a lot of activity in the area.

CookyJar

[Davey1965]

Is it my imagination or has the configuration of the avenue done a complete 360’. The Dunkin’ Donuts is under new management. No more Kate? She was a fixture for so long. Where has she gone? I will not go into details (don’t want to give LE a heads up), but the avenue has changed a wee bit.

I have not seen a foot patrol lately, so I’m guessing we’ve gone back to the norm.

Guess you haven't been looking hard enough, as I still see Kate almost everytime I'm there. She is harder to find (if that want you want) as she has been smart enough over the years to keep a cell phone with the same number and never screw over customers. She has developed a nice customer base. Many times you'll see her get out of one car, only to have another there waiting for her.

[Fbtom]

Last Fri., about 11-2, I had seen two leo at one of the stations standing on the steps hassling a SW.
Also had seen a van hassling another sw on a side street and at least three marked cars patrolling.

The DD was getting new cameras installed looking towards the street, parking lot, and drive thru. There is also a new sign stating about being towed if not a DD customer. Don't know what they are looking for, but might want to keep this in mind while on their property.

[T Shirt]

Is it my imagination or has the configuration of the avenue done a complete 360’. The Dunkin’ Donuts is under new management. No more Kate? She was a fixture for so long. Where has she gone? I will not go into details (don’t want to give LE a heads up), but the avenue has changed a wee bit.

I have not seen a foot patrol lately, so I’m guessing we’ve gone back to the norm.

Ran into her about a week ago out at 22nd and Allegheny. She told me she was locked up for a while and was currently at a halfway house at 28th or 29th and Allegheny. Only talked to her for a couple minutes.

T

[CookyJar]

Is it my imagination or has the configuration of the avenue done a complete 360’. The Dunkin’ Donuts is under new management. No more Kate? She was a fixture for so long. Where has she gone? I will not go into details (don’t want to give LE a heads up), but the avenue has changed a wee bit.

I have not seen a foot patrol lately, so I’m guessing we’ve gone back to the norm.

[Yophile]

Hello from a newbie logging in for the first time.

[Vms124]

Sorry guys I mess up my date.

Kristen got out on February 9.

[Vms124]

Actually she got out on Jan 9. So she's been out for almost a month now.