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[Burbs Monger]

Good info, but wanted to make sure you know there is an existing SB thread called Philadelphia Sugar where this post is better suited. It is located in the user blog section.

Thanks and Be Safe.

I've dabbled on all these sites in the past, and here is my assessment.

What's your price. Stay away, unless you're 70 and all you want is a dinner date. One profile summarized it for me: "let me be your eye candy for the night;" you are just paying to be seen with somebody. Waste of time, money.

Secret benefits. Pay I think 50 or 60 dollars to join, and you get 10 credits. Each time you message a girl or accept a message from a new girl, that's a credit gone. So basically, let's say, talk to a girl for 5/6 dollars each. Problem is, the site uses bots that can artificially talk to you as if they are real women.

And I know that because I travel up and down from PA down to SC, and when I joined, I happened to be in the Maryland area, so I messaged 2 of the women that contacted me there. What I found odd is that both of them were pretty much saying the same thing, that led to, here is my number, text me; when I texted them, the response was, hey, can you text me later, busy now, or hey, was waiting for your text. Then nothing back.

I then was on my way to VA; get on the site, scanned the profiles, saw one I liked, messaged the person, and literally the response, was almost the same as the one in MD, so I said, you're going to ask me to text you. And of course, the bot replied, here is my number, text me. I text the number, and of course, response was, hey sweetie, was waiting for you to text me or something like that. Either I was unlucky, or yea, the site is full of bots.

Soooo, out of the 10 women I messaged, 1 turned out to be real. We met up and that's when I learned the term, fatfished. She turned out to be way fatter than her pics and I was like, no thank you. So stay away from SB.

Seeking arrangement. Sign up, don't pay right away, and put yourself in another town, let's say Pittsburgh if you're in Philly. Why? Because women will start messaging you and you will be tempted to want to reply. Instead, check the site daily and eventually you'll get a coupon for 25% off or 30% off. Whichever. Then change your location. I happened to join summer last year, and right before TIK TOK took over (yea, ill explain). So my membership was about 60 dollars I think? Can't remember. But holy cow. At the time, plenty of single moms, students hurting, and honestly, I couldn't keep up with the messages so it came down to filtering for 21-26 year olds and yep, fun times were had, but the thing is, these women expected me to see them 2 x times a week; they really wanted a sugar daddy to pay their bills, blah blah blah. I would tell them after the date, listen, I'm really busy with work, ill call you up to set up a 2nd date. Hell no. On to the next woman. What's laughable is the 40-60 yr old women on there demanding 5 to 6 benjamins because they got experience. Seriously?

Anyway. I only kept the membership for a month, but lined up enough contacts to hit them up after; the main problem is that yea, women want to make an arrangement, so the standard line applies: sure, let's go on a date, see if we mentally and physically vibe, and then we can talk about that; I don't like to get into arrangements when there is no vibe. Deed done, sorry honey, vibe wasn't there. Good luck to you.

Question is always, well how much are the dates. Really depends on the women. If you're willing to go to the mountains, had some dates those areas for over night fun for less than 2 benjamin; but in the philly area, 3 to 4 benjamins, and some of the women are hustlers, and you can tell that when they tell you, I only date serious SDS and I expect to be paid hourly for my time. Those are the so called "professionals. " My job was to try to hit up the new profiles b / c many joined not knowing what to expect.

Anyway. What happened was, with the pandemic and all, TIK TOK videos came out telling women, get on seeking, and this is how you get free money and free meals. So these tik tok tutorials tell women to do the following:

Choose a fake location.

Talk to the men, tell them you are away taking care of a family member or whatever is reasonable.

Tell them youll meet them but they need to send you gas money.

If they don't, then tell them you will meet up for lunch / dinner and you expect a "gift".

And on the 2nd date, youll get physical.

AFter first date and gift is given, disappear.

And yep, this began happening to me. I would speak to a woman, next thing I know, she would say, BTW, I'm not in town at the moment, but when I get back we can have fun; but if you want, I can try to come to you now, I'm just short in cash; can you cashapp me 50 dollars.

Not sure when this began to happen, but I want to say November? And now seeking has turned on to a scamming game; it used to be that most of the women who messaged me in the past were legit, but as of last February (I quit the membership), out of 10 women I chatted with, 9 were scammers; so it was taking a lot of time to filter through them, so seeking is no longer the treasure it used to be, and the price increased to 100 a month. At the moment, no longer a member, but maybe I'll come back in a couple of months.

In the meantime, back to plenty of fish and looking for the single moms hurt by the economy.

[Fffinster]

I've dabbled on all these sites in the past, and here is my assessment...

Great intel. Thanks!

[Kingmaletx]

I've dabbled on all these sites in the past, and here is my assessment.

What's your price. Stay away, unless you're 70 and all you want is a dinner date. One profile summarized it for me: "let me be your eye candy for the night;" you are just paying to be seen with somebody. Waste of time, money.

Secret benefits. Pay I think 50 or 60 dollars to join, and you get 10 credits. Each time you message a girl or accept a message from a new girl, that's a credit gone. So basically, let's say, talk to a girl for 5/6 dollars each. Problem is, the site uses bots that can artificially talk to you as if they are real women.

And I know that because I travel up and down from PA down to SC, and when I joined, I happened to be in the Maryland area, so I messaged 2 of the women that contacted me there. What I found odd is that both of them were pretty much saying the same thing, that led to, here is my number, text me; when I texted them, the response was, hey, can you text me later, busy now, or hey, was waiting for your text. Then nothing back.

I then was on my way to VA; get on the site, scanned the profiles, saw one I liked, messaged the person, and literally the response, was almost the same as the one in MD, so I said, you're going to ask me to text you. And of course, the bot replied, here is my number, text me. I text the number, and of course, response was, hey sweetie, was waiting for you to text me or something like that. Either I was unlucky, or yea, the site is full of bots.

Soooo, out of the 10 women I messaged, 1 turned out to be real. We met up and that's when I learned the term, fatfished. She turned out to be way fatter than her pics and I was like, no thank you. So stay away from SB.

Seeking arrangement. Sign up, don't pay right away, and put yourself in another town, let's say Pittsburgh if you're in Philly. Why? Because women will start messaging you and you will be tempted to want to reply. Instead, check the site daily and eventually you'll get a coupon for 25% off or 30% off. Whichever. Then change your location. I happened to join summer last year, and right before TIK TOK took over (yea, ill explain). So my membership was about 60 dollars I think? Can't remember. But holy cow. At the time, plenty of single moms, students hurting, and honestly, I couldn't keep up with the messages so it came down to filtering for 21-26 year olds and yep, fun times were had, but the thing is, these women expected me to see them 2 x times a week; they really wanted a sugar daddy to pay their bills, blah blah blah. I would tell them after the date, listen, I'm really busy with work, ill call you up to set up a 2nd date. Hell no. On to the next woman. What's laughable is the 40-60 yr old women on there demanding 5 to 6 benjamins because they got experience. Seriously?

Anyway. I only kept the membership for a month, but lined up enough contacts to hit them up after; the main problem is that yea, women want to make an arrangement, so the standard line applies: sure, let's go on a date, see if we mentally and physically vibe, and then we can talk about that; I don't like to get into arrangements when there is no vibe. Deed done, sorry honey, vibe wasn't there. Good luck to you.

Question is always, well how much are the dates. Really depends on the women. If you're willing to go to the mountains, had some dates those areas for over night fun for less than 2 benjamin; but in the philly area, 3 to 4 benjamins, and some of the women are hustlers, and you can tell that when they tell you, I only date serious SDS and I expect to be paid hourly for my time. Those are the so called "professionals. " My job was to try to hit up the new profiles b / c many joined not knowing what to expect.

Anyway. What happened was, with the pandemic and all, TIK TOK videos came out telling women, get on seeking, and this is how you get free money and free meals. So these tik tok tutorials tell women to do the following:

Choose a fake location.

Talk to the men, tell them you are away taking care of a family member or whatever is reasonable.

Tell them youll meet them but they need to send you gas money.

If they don't, then tell them you will meet up for lunch / dinner and you expect a "gift".

And on the 2nd date, youll get physical.

AFter first date and gift is given, disappear.

And yep, this began happening to me. I would speak to a woman, next thing I know, she would say, BTW, I'm not in town at the moment, but when I get back we can have fun; but if you want, I can try to come to you now, I'm just short in cash; can you cashapp me 50 dollars.

Not sure when this began to happen, but I want to say November? And now seeking has turned on to a scamming game; it used to be that most of the women who messaged me in the past were legit, but as of last February (I quit the membership), out of 10 women I chatted with, 9 were scammers; so it was taking a lot of time to filter through them, so seeking is no longer the treasure it used to be, and the price increased to 100 a month. At the moment, no longer a member, but maybe I'll come back in a couple of months.

In the meantime, back to plenty of fish and looking for the single moms hurt by the economy.

[WookieWonka]

I had some recent luck finding women around check out time at a cheap motel. Cost for a night or two at the motel got me 2 to 4 hours of fun. They had their bag (s) and were on foot leaving. Just said hi and asked how they were and what was going on and that led to them paying for their recently vacated room and us going back in to hang out for a few hours. 1 cup of coffee with one and 2 cups with another. I'd say they were UTR. This was in the Bristol / Levittown areas. YMMV.

[YoshiRed]

Big Thanks to JTerry26 for sharing his experiences.

It would be great to hear how it works out for you Texaco Tim.

I signed up for both WYP and SA. I'm leaning towards SA. I am kind of waiting for my Covid vaccine first, also to have the time to put into this.

The escort business has been frustrating. With some with bad drug habits. Sometimes changing times to meet or the ghosting. Up selling. The lack of quality. The shady side of the business.

So any Info from these other ways to connect with women who enjoy sexual encounters will be very helpful.

JT is the exception to the norm. Trust me, I know firsthand that these sb sites are a ripoff so don't waste your money. Also don't even think about Secret Benefits. That site is a total scam job.

[JDRedBull]

Big Thanks to JTerry26 for sharing his experiences.

It would be great to hear how it works out for you Texaco Tim.

I signed up for both WYP and SA. I'm leaning towards SA. I am kind of waiting for my Covid vaccine first, also to have the time to put into this.

The escort business has been frustrating. With some with bad drug habits. Sometimes changing times to meet or the ghosting. Up selling. The lack of quality. The shady side of the business.

So any Info from these other ways to connect with women who enjoy sexual encounters will be very helpful.

[JTerry26]

Many thanks to JTerry26 for taking the time to share his stroll down the Sugar Highway. I pretty much agree 100% with his findings and experiences. It does take some digging, skills and finesse to sort out the pros, scammers. Users, BS. I have found it helpful to do your due diligence and above all trust your gut. The times I have ignored the red or even yellow flags have been drama filled. I have been on WYP, SA and even AM. I have found SA to be not the best but at least better chances of a legit connection. Occasionally also had some luck on Tinder too, but that slow going there. These tough COVID times definitely require some extra creativity and resourcefulness.

I had Tinder going at the same time. I didn't pay as much attention to it, so effort in / results out matters, but I found it frustrating and pointless. One, I kept trying to limit the ages to under 40 but it kept recommending women 50+. It also did a poor job with keeping the recommendations close by*. As things picked up with SA I barely looked at it and then I deleted it a week early. Maybe there's some Tinder how-to that would make it more useful. I suspect you have to do the upgrades and whatnot to get real action.

*Same goes for SA. You get interest from all over the country and the world. You should be able to not only set your search parameters by miles away, but also block interest outside of your specified radius. I really DGAF if 3 women in Venezuela want to meet me.

[Shampoo55]

What's WYP?

I dd that years ago, what a scam. You have to pay for credits and cannot see a girl's details until you spend credits to make her and offer. Oh and girls will send offers or something, all to get you to burn through your credits and buy more. After all, all the site has to sell are credits, so.

The worst part is that there are all kinds of WARNINGS all over the site about P2 P being prohibited, sex should not be expected, you are paying for her time only. So it is VERY popular with girls who think they can eat your food and get free drinks at a fancy place and get paid to do it! I mean, you know the number of lakes you get with SA, so the same there, but you credits are gone, buy more. Then when you do get a girl to reply, she wants $300 to have drinks or she demands dinner at a 5-star restaurant.

So no idea why anyone plays that game. But I guess there must be a bunch of dweebs who can't get a girl and are willing to pay hundred to pay for her dinner, or it wouldn't work.

[Runner8]

Many thanks to JTerry26 for taking the time to share his stroll down the Sugar Highway. I pretty much agree 100% with his findings and experiences. It does take some digging, skills and finesse to sort out the pros, scammers. Users, BS. I have found it helpful to do your due diligence and above all trust your gut. The times I have ignored the red or even yellow flags have been drama filled. I have been on WYP, SA and even AM. I have found SA to be not the best but at least better chances of a legit connection. Occasionally also had some luck on Tinder too, but that slow going there. These tough COVID times definitely require some extra creativity and resourcefulness.

(Cross posted in Philly Sugar blog below as well).

So I'm at the end of my month. I have to say it was a success although like many things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Takes work and persistence. I've seen 3 woman (2 2 x each and 1 just for lunch) and another I'm texting with and am told by others in the Philly Sugar blog that she's available. So assuming my upcoming 'date' with the lunch woman goes well and assuming I can get with the 4th, I hit my goal of meeting 3-4 woman, all relatively local (suburbs). A couple of notes:

1) Moving to texts and then asking to meet does shake out the bullshit.

2) I don't think any are hard drug users. A couple of years into this, and watching someone slowly die last year, this is big for me.

3) 1 of the 4 (at least) is just a UTR but legit escort.

4) Prices are higher (200-300) but the 4 times we got together (2 different women) it was in my place or hers (hotel once) for 2-3 hours with longer session. 2 were MSOG. I've heard of women asking $500-$700/ meet but I didn't see that. I also didn't click on the chicks that look like Barbie.

5) One, I think, is really a legit civilian. Has her own place, FT job etc. I think she might just be in it for the dick. The first time I went over we went upstairs before we even set a price.

6) I think there's definitely bots and scammers out there and you get a lot of interest from Venezuela, Russia, England etc. Those are all easy to avoid. I think the bigger issue is some women aren't serious about ass for cash and are just on there hoping someone just gives them money. The skills you learn sniffing out the scams on StG or the other escort sites are transferable.

All in all, worth it for the $90 especially if I can keep these 4 in the mix. My plan is to have one be a weekly regular and the rest will be semi-regular, like a time or two a month. I'm cancelling my membership before it renews.

[Gator145]

What's WYP?

What's Your Price? WYP. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[Dave1414]

What's WYP?

Whatsyourpricedotcom.

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What's WYP?

What's Your Price.

[Merge1]

Thanks for the info. I am on WYP and SA at this time and was in the past also with possible ladies but didn't pay and eventually deleted both. This time I decided to try this route instead of my years with escorts. Things are dead with escorts now. Guess cause they getting stimulus checks and extra money for unemployment. That shit stops and I think we will all get busy again. Anyways, I had more luck this time with WYP On messages so paid fee for credits and crossed my fingers. I agree about using skills to catch fakes like on STG. I am talking with one now and another soon I believe. I will push for text and meet as you say to help eliminate BS. Stay safe.

What's WYP?

[Dave1414]

(Cross posted in Philly Sugar blog below as well).

So I'm at the end of my month. I have to say it was a success although like many things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Takes work and persistence. I've seen 3 woman (2 2 x each and 1 just for lunch) and another I'm texting with and am told by others in the Philly Sugar blog that she's available. So assuming my upcoming 'date' with the lunch woman goes well and assuming I can get with the 4th, I hit my goal of meeting 3-4 woman, all relatively local (suburbs). A couple of notes.

Thanks for the info. I am on WYP and SA at this time and was in the past also with possible ladies but didn't pay and eventually deleted both. This time I decided to try this route instead of my years with escorts. Things are dead with escorts now. Guess cause they getting stimulus checks and extra money for unemployment. That shit stops and I think we will all get busy again. Anyways, I had more luck this time with WYP On messages so paid fee for credits and crossed my fingers. I agree about using skills to catch fakes like on STG. I am talking with one now and another soon I believe. I will push for text and meet as you say to help eliminate BS. Stay safe.

[Texaco Tim]

Many thanks JTerry26 for taking the time to relate your experiences in an area I and probably many others have no clue of what to expect.

Have been tempted to try this route and with what you have shown, it looks good.

If I go there I will follow your example and post my adventures. TT.