General Reports

[JTerry26]

Makes some sense, as many women are groomed / forced / exploited into the industry. Charging and prosecuting them is a waste of resources and doesn't really serve any purpose.

In the UK it's legal, but pimping is not, nor is "curb crawling" (streetwalkers). But you can get them delivered right to you. Same in Montreal. Both through very well run agencies with like filtered searches for your preferred type.

In Switzerland they had amazing brothels, like high end, and even a designated area for "drive thru". I didn't go to the latter (no car), but you drive up and there's like a loop with little huts. You pull off, do the business and drive off. 100% legal. The huts have panic buttons for the women if shit goes sideways.

A Guatemalan strip club had a printed menu with prices and a “couch dance” room that was like a studio apartment.

It's kind of crazy how good it can be. Hopefully this is a first step for the US to get to a more sane policy.

[Farouk]

Buying still illegal, as is pimping. Interesting.

https://apnews.com/article/maine-leg...4443f322ec0c96

Makes some sense, as many women are groomed / forced / exploited into the industry. Charging and prosecuting them is a waste of resources and doesn't really serve any purpose.

[JTerry26]

Buying still illegal, as is pimping. Interesting.

https://apnews.com/article/maine-leg...4443f322ec0c96

[MooseGreely973]

Anyone seen these hoes before https://callescort.org/484-409-1314 and https://callescort.org/267-551-8364?

I talk to the brown skin one a lot via instagram but I haven't met her in person yet. The mixed Asian chick is expensive. I was wondering if her services are worth it.

[MooseGreely973]

Have any mongers gone to a Friday night swingers club where single guys get in?

Please share any experience.

Considering checking it out one of these weekends.

Saints and sinners.

Pleasure garden.

You talking about 6333 Woodland ave.

[Shampoo55]

Thank you! That was a great layout of the scene that I've thought about off and on. I actually knew a couple that organized swinging parties and thought they liked me but never acted on anything. They ended up breaking up and as I look back, it seems like it was a better deal for him than her!

On another note, does anyone know if those foot fetish lap dance parties are still happening? In fairness to the organizer, discreet answers or PMs please.

Very helpful. I don't see myself doing well as a single male especially if the couple is looking someone well hung (not me).

I'm better off getting a sugar baby to join me.

Ok first comment is that some wives are size queens and are looking for porn cocks to fuck. But most women just want good sex. If you don't skimp on foreplay, really know how to eat pussy and give Orgasms, teat a wife with respect prioritizing her desires and do more while fucking than jackrabbit hammering, you can have success in the lifestyle even with average or below average equipment. A woman would rather have a good fuck, than some arrogant dude with w 12-in cock.

In fact, several women in the lifestyle told me anything over 8-inches was too big, became painful pretty quickly and they would rather avoid. Plus they said a lot of guys with porn dicks thought that all they needed was their size and had no idea how to give a good fuck.

As far as the couple that hosted swing parties. Too bad you didn't explore when you had the chance. Often times just one encounter like that, if respectful can lead to other offers.

But if that couple broke up over swinging then that was a problem. Jealousy has no place in swinging and leads to drama. The hard part of this "couples dating" is finding 4 people that like each other. When you meet face-to-face potential playmates there is an interview process. A Couple want to find out about you to gauge how steady your relationship as to avoid eventual Drama. That's one reason why it's generally a bad idea to take a hooker to a swing club.

On occasion, one half will be very interested in the other couple and the other half just luke warm. Sure a hubby or a wife might "TOFFT" so their spouse can have a good time, but if it goes that way all the time or frequently it creates a relationship problem: Drama.

Many dudes talk their wife into swinging thinking about how much pussy they'll get. But once he gets in a room and sees his wife fucking another dude and she's reacting or making noises he near has seen, jealousy pops up & here comes Drama. Or the wife ends up being more popular and gets more offers to play than he does, her come Drama. Many dudes over estimate their appeal.

A GF and I, in the lifestyle, use to joke about some couples / As we came to call them: trophy wives and troll husbands. I remember meeting a couple and she was a complete knockout, gorgeous, fun, sexy I'd have f-ed her any day of the week. But her husband had the personality of a wet paper bag. My GF could in no way get excited about playing with him. So I had to pass on a romp with this beauty queen.

So swinging can be fun, but it's a whole different game, with its own set of rules.

[Mythbuster]

Actually, from my experience as both a single male (SM) and a couple, in the swinging lifestyle, single guys are looked down on very much and often viewed as "a dime a dozen. " So to have success in this arena one needs to be well groomed, well dressed, exceedingly polite, have some game and above all be RESPECTFUL! Even if you get into a club, as a SM it is VERY, VERY hard game to play. So if one is put off by the extra cost to get in a club, then they are going to have a chip on their shoulder that eventually comes through to potential playmates. In many ways one has to eat a sH*t sandwich and love.

The reason is that ALOT of SMs behave badly. As one can hear from escorts there are a lot of jerks out there. I guess if one is getting paid a few hundred dollars they will put up with some degradation, disrespect and abuse. While the girls and wives in the lifestyle might be "slutty" by normal standards, because they like multiple partners, none of them want to be treated badly, disrespected. Being a SM who calls a wife a wh*re, sl\ / t, c\ / nt while F-ing her and one is gunna find the ire of a hubby.

Also, guys think that just because they are in a Club where many come to find playmates, they are entitled to play with whomever they want. Not the care, this is adult dating and a SM first has to impress or get through the Hubby gatekeeper all while impressing or turning on the wife.

Thank you! That was a great layout of the scene that I've thought about off and on. I actually knew a couple that organized swinging parties and thought they liked me but never acted on anything. They ended up breaking up and as I look back, it seems like it was a better deal for him than her!

On another note, does anyone know if those foot fetish lap dance parties are still happening? In fairness to the organizer, discreet answers or PMs please.

[Ken Allen]

Actually, from my experience as both a single male (SM) and a couple, in the swinging lifestyle, single guys are looked down on very much and often viewed as "a dime a dozen. " So to have success in this arena one needs to be well groomed, well dressed, exceedingly polite, have some game and above all be RESPECTFUL! Even if you get into a club, as a SM it is VERY, VERY hard game to play. So if one is put off by the extra cost to get in a club, then they are going to have a chip on their shoulder that eventually comes through to potential playmates. In many ways one has to eat a sH*t sandwich and love.

The reason is that ALOT of SMs behave badly. As one can hear from escorts there are a lot of jerks out there. I guess if one is getting paid a few hundred dollars they will put up with some degradation, disrespect and abuse. While the girls and wives in the lifestyle might be "slutty" by normal standards, because they like multiple partners, none of them want to be treated badly, disrespected. Being a SM who calls a wife a wh*re, sl\ / t, c\ / nt while F-ing her and one is gunna find the ire of a hubby.

Also, guys think that just because they are in a Club where many come to find playmates, they are entitled to play with whomever they want. Not the care, this is adult dating and a SM first has to impress or get through the Hubby gatekeeper all while impressing or turning on the wife. It's a delicate dance as the Hubby has seen many jerks before and tends to treat you as a jerk regardless of your approach. Deal with that and impress the wife?.

Very helpful. I don't see myself doing well as a single male especially if the couple is looking someone well hung (not me).

I'm better off getting a sugar baby to join me.

[Jayke00]

Actually, from my experience as both a single male (SM) and a couple, in the swinging lifestyle, single guys are looked down on very much and often viewed as "a dime a dozen. " So to have success in this arena one needs to be well groomed, well dressed, exceedingly polite, have some game and above all be RESPECTFUL!

Can concur. Explored the lifestyle for about ten years as a single male. Went to clubs and private house parties. I even used to organize some private parties in my own home.

Everything you related is spot-on with my experience.

Swinging is not "free sex". Swinging is about taking platonic relationships you make (even if they're new ones you just made that night) to the next level. It's the ultimate "friends with benefits".

Approach it as friends first, sex (maybe!) second and you'll be fine.

[Shampoo55]

I went to one like 5+ years ago. Maybe more. They charged single guys a lot more to get in and they wanted to charge you again to enter the play rooms / area. Seemed to me that the single guys were paying the bills and not getting much out of it. You also had to dress up with proper clothes. There was a dress code to get inside which they didn't enforce until after guys paid to get in. Un refundable. I can understand charging more to gate keep a bit to keep out tourists but the whole scene seemed to be planned around extracting the maximum amount of cash out of the single guys for showing up without a female. I'm not a club guy so take that into account and I'm frugal. I could have gone to an AMP for 2 sessions now for what I spent to visit that "club" over 5 years ago. I'd rather go to BNA in NJ. Its cheap, there is other stuff around if nothing you are into is happening there but I am an old school perv.

Actually, from my experience as both a single male (SM) and a couple, in the swinging lifestyle, single guys are looked down on very much and often viewed as "a dime a dozen. " So to have success in this arena one needs to be well groomed, well dressed, exceedingly polite, have some game and above all be RESPECTFUL! Even if you get into a club, as a SM it is VERY, VERY hard game to play. So if one is put off by the extra cost to get in a club, then they are going to have a chip on their shoulder that eventually comes through to potential playmates. In many ways one has to eat a sH*t sandwich and love.

The reason is that ALOT of SMs behave badly. As one can hear from escorts there are a lot of jerks out there. I guess if one is getting paid a few hundred dollars they will put up with some degradation, disrespect and abuse. While the girls and wives in the lifestyle might be "slutty" by normal standards, because they like multiple partners, none of them want to be treated badly, disrespected. Being a SM who calls a wife a wh*re, sl\ / t, c\ / nt while F-ing her and one is gunna find the ire of a hubby.

Also, guys think that just because they are in a Club where many come to find playmates, they are entitled to play with whomever they want. Not the care, this is adult dating and a SM first has to impress or get through the Hubby gatekeeper all while impressing or turning on the wife. It's a delicate dance as the Hubby has seen many jerks before and tends to treat you as a jerk regardless of your approach. Deal with that and impress the wife?

The other side of the coin is the Single Females, while one might think they are easy pickings, they are the unicorns of the lifestyle: EVERYONE wants them: couples, SMs & other SFs. What guys often forget is that SFs are much more social and connected. As such if you blow off or disrespect a SF, then word gets around to other SFs and they will likely shun you. Knew a dude who was extremely popular with the SFs as he never turned down a girl and treated all with respect. Some of the cows he f-ed were pretty gross. But he knew if he pleased them the word got around to the other SFs and his chances with them improved greatly. I once asked him how he did it, f-ed one of the cows, and he said sometimes he just had to go somewhere else in his head while shutting off his eyes.

So attitude, approach and a bunch of other unwritten rules apply to the swing lifestyle. The biggest rule to never forget is "No means no!" That means you have to quit at the first "NO!" not keep pressuring like you might do with a girl at a bar until you break her down, Violate that rule and you could get bounced from a club.

So yeah, interesting potential at a swing club, but also some learning curve.

One exception - There use to be a swing club on South Street in Philly. (how it got shutdown is another story) Was in there once with a CL date and saw some 60s Italian dude come into the club with his 20-something GF(?). Apparently she wanted a GB (or had been there before) as the minute she walked in and went to a booth, SMs came swarming out of the woodwork like a pack of wolves on downed prey. I went off and f-ed some deadfish Indian wife while my date ended up naked on the bar with dudes doing shots out of her belly button. But that was the only exception to the "be polite" rule I ever observed in a club

[WookieCookie33]

Have any mongers gone to a Friday night swingers club where single guys get in?

Please share any experience.

Considering checking it out one of these weekends.

Saints and sinners.

Pleasure garden.

I went to one like 5+ years ago. Maybe more. They charged single guys a lot more to get in and they wanted to charge you again to enter the play rooms / area. Seemed to me that the single guys were paying the bills and not getting much out of it. You also had to dress up with proper clothes. There was a dress code to get inside which they didn't enforce until after guys paid to get in. Un refundable. I can understand charging more to gate keep a bit to keep out tourists but the whole scene seemed to be planned around extracting the maximum amount of cash out of the single guys for showing up without a female. I'm not a club guy so take that into account and I'm frugal. I could have gone to an AMP for 2 sessions now for what I spent to visit that "club" over 5 years ago. I'd rather go to BNA in NJ. Its cheap, there is other stuff around if nothing you are into is happening there but I am an old school perv.

[Ken Allen]

Have any mongers gone to a Friday night swingers club where single guys get in?

Please share any experience.

Considering checking it out one of these weekends.

Saints and sinners.

Pleasure garden.

[Ken Allen]

Have any mongers gone to a Friday night swingers club where single guys get in?

Please share any experience.

Considering checking it out one of these weekends.

Saints and sinners.

Pleasure garden.

[PhillyDiscreet]

I've never had any major issues with cops. Through the years mongering in Philly, I've had some run-ins with LEO but I just cooperated and I had a clean record and everything was up to date on my car so they just let me go each time.

I don't know if my experience is similar to others here.

Even from the girls, I hear they don't even arrest people anymore. They just make them take some std tests and some classes / counselings. At least, this is what I heard in Philly. I expect things would be very different outside of Philly, especially in neighboring suburbs.

Just funny that in Philly you can rob, rape and kill someone and get out the same day but people seem to throw the book at johns and escorts.

[HankScorpio]

You mean years, I know firsthand, as I got arrested, went to jail overnight during Krasners time as the DA. They didn't impound my car, although the cop that gave me back my shit when leaving jail had told they did. I found it on Trenton Ave off Lehigh after going to city hall trying to find out where the car was. The cops did steal my money though, I had about 90 on me, it was counted in front of me multiple times. When first arrested, in a warehouse in Juniata where they asked me about gun crimes, which is funny as I'm not that type of person at all, and it's very obvious. When released, I had no money returned, when I asked about it, I got to to shut the fuck up by a screaming micro penised cop, same cop who said my car was impounded. Cops are just as bad as the people they supposedly protect us from.

I've never had any major issues with cops. Through the years mongering in Philly, I've had some run-ins with LEO but I just cooperated and I had a clean record and everything was up to date on my car so they just let me go each time.

I don't know if my experience is similar to others here.

Even from the girls, I hear they don't even arrest people anymore. They just make them take some std tests and some classes / counselings. At least, this is what I heard in Philly. I expect things would be very different outside of Philly, especially in neighboring suburbs.