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[Jayke00]

So my wife is going away Wed AM through Sun PM. I'm in what I have to imagine is a common married monger mode of lining up dates (extended if possible) with my regulars and plotting other opportunities. I feel like I need a dedicated Pussy Coordinator. Shit's getting complicated.

Rather have that problem than the one I've been wrestling with, which is trying to hit a two- or three-hour window. I've struck out the last four times.

It's like the providers aren't reliable or something like that.

[JTerry26]

So my wife is going away Wed AM through Sun PM. I'm in what I have to imagine is a common married monger mode of lining up dates (extended if possible) with my regulars and plotting other opportunities. I feel like I need a dedicated Pussy Coordinator. Shit's getting complicated.

[James354]

Back in the 90's where I grew up, I used to hit the neighbourhood bar. All locals. Staff and patrons. There was a bartender / barmaid chick I went to school with. She worked every night. If she knew you, like grew up / school together knew you and you were on friendly terms she would "date" you. She dated 3 or 4 guys at the same time who basically went home with her after her shift from the bar for the night. She was a friend with mutual benefits. You left like 80 bucks on the night stand in morning. It was only discussed once. If you didn't leave the gift on the night stand before leaving then you were still friends but you never got invited back to her place again. You spent the whole night and most of the morning sometimes right up till she had to get ready for work She drank a little and smoked weed but to my knowledge never used hard drugs. She just wanted a decent apartment, a reliable car and some security in the bank. She went with people she knew and trusted. In high school she liked to have fun and get around and after she just decided to keep having fun and getting some compensation.

Around the late 90's, the bar I frequented had a bartender like that. I never partook, but should have. Out of curiosity, just how did that one-time discussion go? Was it before the home-coming, or after?

[James354]

a better portion on the daddy sites I would think are not.

Any thoughts on where's the better selection and conversion rate? SB vs Seeking vs??

While I like a young spinner as much as anyone else, my choice would be an early to mid 30's MILF type, do they tend to be more on one site rather than another?

I wouldn't say I've ever had much "success" on AFF, though it has gotten me laid more than once. But that place is an entirely different ballgame.

[WookieWonka]

Glad you had a good time and glad she got some help along the way. Wonderful to hear success stories.

While it IS true many girls these days are hooked, . Does not apply to all, in fact I would say probably a better portion on the daddy sites I would think are not. Certainly need to be picky, but I can attest that they ARE out there. Don't give up hope!

Back in the 90's where I grew up, I used to hit the neighbourhood bar. All locals. Staff and patrons. There was a bartender / barmaid chick I went to school with. She worked every night. If she knew you, like grew up / school together knew you and you were on friendly terms she would "date" you. She dated 3 or 4 guys at the same time who basically went home with her after her shift from the bar for the night. She was a friend with mutual benefits. You left like 80 bucks on the night stand in morning. It was only discussed once. If you didn't leave the gift on the night stand before leaving then you were still friends but you never got invited back to her place again. You spent the whole night and most of the morning sometimes right up till she had to get ready for work She drank a little and smoked weed but to my knowledge never used hard drugs. She just wanted a decent apartment, a reliable car and some security in the bank. She went with people she knew and trusted. In high school she liked to have fun and get around and after she just decided to keep having fun and getting some compensation.

[SwaggyBruuuh]

I'd be interested, do you have a date, time and pictures.

The bro never replies back.

[PPJones]

Really appreciate the wisdom on this board. What got me thinking this way, I'm FT back into the hobby after getting out of a long-term relationship earlier this year. My ATF from years and years ago was one with whom I kinda bridged the gap between "regular" and "SB. " After seeing her a couple of times, it just worked well for us though but never made a formal permanent arrangement. Paid each visit individually, her advertised 2-hour fee, but she never stayed less than 5 hours, usually 6 and often a full overnight. We'd go out for dinner, swing by Blockbuster (Blockbuster! This is how long ago it was) to pick something up, laugh our asses off then go fuck like jackrabbits. Completely as others have mentioned, full GFE where the "Girlfriend" part extends outside of the bedroom. I've referred to it as "friends with benefits, the benefit to her being I give her money. " My biggest difference with JT's experience is that when it was over, there were no regrets or hard feelings or pain. It is what it is, and though I'd have preferred for it to have continued and I miss her as a friend and lover, it's NBD.

So that's something I'd like to have again and that's what brought up the topic. The biggest problem I'm facing is that unlike years ago when providers were often (like this girl) single moms supplementing their income, todays crew is almost exclusively hardcore addicts. I couldn't ever be like "Ayoo lets go down the shore for a couple days. I cover the expenses and all you got to do is bounce around in a bikini and be gorgeous. I'll make it worth your while," because none of them can be away from their supply for that long. I'm not even sure I could successfully pull off a local overnight with most of them.

Again, thanks to all for the feedback.

Glad you had a good time and glad she got some help along the way. Wonderful to hear success stories.

While it IS true many girls these days are hooked, . Does not apply to all, in fact I would say probably a better portion on the daddy sites I would think are not. Certainly need to be picky, but I can attest that they ARE out there. Don't give up hope!

[James354]

Really appreciate the wisdom on this board. What got me thinking this way, I'm FT back into the hobby after getting out of a long-term relationship earlier this year. My ATF from years and years ago was one with whom I kinda bridged the gap between "regular" and "SB. " After seeing her a couple of times, it just worked well for us though but never made a formal permanent arrangement. Paid each visit individually, her advertised 2-hour fee, but she never stayed less than 5 hours, usually 6 and often a full overnight. We'd go out for dinner, swing by Blockbuster (Blockbuster! This is how long ago it was) to pick something up, laugh our asses off then go fuck like jackrabbits. Completely as others have mentioned, full GFE where the "Girlfriend" part extends outside of the bedroom. I've referred to it as "friends with benefits, the benefit to her being I give her money. " My biggest difference with JT's experience is that when it was over, there were no regrets or hard feelings or pain. It is what it is, and though I'd have preferred for it to have continued and I miss her as a friend and lover, it's NBD.

So that's something I'd like to have again and that's what brought up the topic. The biggest problem I'm facing is that unlike years ago when providers were often (like this girl) single moms supplementing their income, todays crew is almost exclusively hardcore addicts. I couldn't ever be like "Ayoo lets go down the shore for a couple days. I cover the expenses and all you got to do is bounce around in a bikini and be gorgeous. I'll make it worth your while," because none of them can be away from their supply for that long. I'm not even sure I could successfully pull off a local overnight with most of them.

Again, thanks to all for the feedback.

[PPJones]

Great thread. Another point I would make is with regulars the sex tends to get better as you get to know each other, she learns what you like and maybe you learn to push a button or two with her.

With a SB (granted, my n=1) you get that and an emotional connection with IME made the sex even better. Plus, like in any relationship there's other emotional rewards but literally the best sex I've had in my 50+ years (including the last few with mongering) was with her.

My mistake is as it was ending was to try to hold on. I should have, in retrospect, just gone full tear-off-bandaid mode. That said, no regerts! 2019 was a significantly better year for me b / c of her and for that I'm thankful.

So to Gator's point, what I learned is in addition to sex there's other things I enjoyed (emotional connection, companionship) and that ended up making the sex part better. As far as my foray back to Secret Benefits goes, that's not for (just) sex. With the help I've received here I've gotten pretty good at finding sex. From AMPs to a few regulars I see a couple of times of month each to just cutting through the bullshit to find women on StG or elsewhere. I went on SB for that broader experience. That said, I think it's full of bots to suck the money out of you.

Yes, I can't speak for ALL sb's and one again YMMV, but there is DEFINITELY an emotional attachment (at least on my end, and I THINK on hers) between me and my sb. Although I need to remember, that the attachment IS pensacola stronger from MY end. That said, the couple of times we had almost called it quits, it REALLY hurt. Almost, if not more than when I ended a certain long term relationship with a certain someone I called my wife.

Yes, best sex I've EVER experienced was with her. I often refer to her as the devil, as she has spoiled me for any other woman, as the things she does, I certainly don't think many will do.

[JTerry26]

Great thread. Another point I would make is with regulars the sex tends to get better as you get to know each other, she learns what you like and maybe you learn to push a button or two with her.

With a SB (granted, my n=1) you get that and an emotional connection with IME made the sex even better. Plus, like in any relationship there's other emotional rewards but literally the best sex I've had in my 50+ years (including the last few with mongering) was with her.

My mistake is as it was ending was to try to hold on. I should have, in retrospect, just gone full tear-off-bandaid mode. That said, no regerts! 2019 was a significantly better year for me b / c of her and for that I'm thankful.

So to Gator's point, what I learned is in addition to sex there's other things I enjoyed (emotional connection, companionship) and that ended up making the sex part better. As far as my foray back to Secret Benefits goes, that's not for (just) sex. With the help I've received here I've gotten pretty good at finding sex. From AMPs to a few regulars I see a couple of times of month each to just cutting through the bullshit to find women on StG or elsewhere. I went on SB for that broader experience. That said, I think it's full of bots to suck the money out of you.

I would certainly think that the OP has been enlightened a bit by these recent posts. BOTH being very informative. I'll inject my own experience (s), although maybe not as great as some, or, better than others.

As luck would have it, (huge amount of luck). After receiving MANY messages on SB, the very first girl I chose to reply to, we just REALLY hit it off. Was there an underlying motive for the both of us, of course! She wanted money and I wanted my dick sucked! We both knew this going in. But it DID seem we had many common interests. (Receiving / getting head, thankfully one of them! &#128523. Fast forward almost THREE years. Yes, we're still at it.

Now my situation is different from many of you. Wife not at home, and so my level of need for discretion is not as high as some. Not that she's EVER taken advantage of that part of things, but her want / need for discretion is probably higher than mine. Have I contacted and meet other girls from SB? Yes. None, however, with the level of "chemistry", (or whatever it is) that I have with this girl. We've had times where things were going south and I, as jterry, did, "felt the pain". Yet, still together, communicating daily, seemingly as if a boyfriend / girlfriend relationship.

I digress, as I wanted to tell my story, and, really, where else could I tell it??

From what I have seen and experienced, the diff between SB and a "traditional transactional experience" CAN be great. That doesn't mean it WILL be. Only that it CAN be. I think with sugar dating, the YMMV comes even more so into play, as there are ALL different types of SB'S. I would say the MAIN difference being that an SB wants to be felt like she's taken care of, and does NOT want to be labeled as a "hooker" or "prostitute", although, really, essentially, . Is there a difference? Perhaps. But I have not yet actually learned it.

With this long story, my SB is having surgery this afternoon (outpatient) I will be providing dinner for her and her children so that she may rest up and heal. Hoping and praying for a speedy recovery, so that I may get back to the wonderful head that she gives!

P.S. , I know, everyone in here wants good head, but if anyone has a suggestion, I'm all ears!129315;.

[PPJones]

It's always good to get others perspective. It's true one size does not fit all.

We all look for that certain something in any relationship, whether its platonic, paid, or just a roll in the hay. As with all encounters even paid meetings demand an amount of trust. We can never assume because we paid for something we will get what we paid for. It s ok to expect it but assume we will get it is two separate thoughts. Shoot, we get burned on cars and houses. Why should pussy be any different?

Always being on point might be a key factor in making something like that work. Knowing what we want from the relationship. Always watching for telltale signs that indicate something may not be just the way we want it. Most important knowing what we don't want.

Although, JTerry's experience may have come to a painful conclusion, all matters of education have a beginning and ending class. JTerry is a wiser man for his quick education. All was not lost to say the least. I'm sure his eyes are more open to his wants and needs. He states he's been checking out Secret Benefits and so far not happy with the results. Would that be because there's nothing there for him? I don't think so. From his post my guess is hes more enlightened to what he wants and is now making choices.

He's more aware now about what he may have missed before. So knowing better now what he wants makes for a more informed experience. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

I would certainly think that the OP has been enlightened a bit by these recent posts. BOTH being very informative. I'll inject my own experience (s), although maybe not as great as some, or, better than others.

As luck would have it, (huge amount of luck). After receiving MANY messages on SB, the very first girl I chose to reply to, we just REALLY hit it off. Was there an underlying motive for the both of us, of course! She wanted money and I wanted my dick sucked! We both knew this going in. But it DID seem we had many common interests. (Receiving / getting head, thankfully one of them! &#128523. Fast forward almost THREE years. Yes, we're still at it.

Now my situation is different from many of you. Wife not at home, and so my level of need for discretion is not as high as some. Not that she's EVER taken advantage of that part of things, but her want / need for discretion is probably higher than mine. Have I contacted and meet other girls from SB? Yes. None, however, with the level of "chemistry", (or whatever it is) that I have with this girl. We've had times where things were going south and I, as jterry, did, "felt the pain". Yet, still together, communicating daily, seemingly as if a boyfriend / girlfriend relationship.

I digress, as I wanted to tell my story, and, really, where else could I tell it??

From what I have seen and experienced, the diff between SB and a "traditional transactional experience" CAN be great. That doesn't mean it WILL be. Only that it CAN be. I think with sugar dating, the YMMV comes even more so into play, as there are ALL different types of SB'S. I would say the MAIN difference being that an SB wants to be felt like she's taken care of, and does NOT want to be labeled as a "hooker" or "prostitute", although, really, essentially, . Is there a difference? Perhaps. But I have not yet actually learned it.

With this long story, my SB is having surgery this afternoon (outpatient) I will be providing dinner for her and her children so that she may rest up and heal. Hoping and praying for a speedy recovery, so that I may get back to the wonderful head that she gives!

P.S. , I know, everyone in here wants good head, but if anyone has a suggestion, I'm all ears!129315;.

[Gator145]

While Gator has decades more experience than me, I actually have some experience here.

I had a woman I was seeing regularly, like 1-2 x / week. It started pretty transactional, just contacting to set things up and only meeting for sex.
Over time it got more GFE but stayed largely transactional. So a regular date with GFE, each meet up paid separate but more contact in between.
Finally, the transition to SB. I converted it to a fixed amount per week which I'd pay up front (I know, big no no). There was a bit of a handshake agreement about the amount of time / frequency that would buy. Neither of us abused that so it worked well. The biggest difference was the trust that was built had her do overnights at my place and then we traveled together a number of times. We also saw music and sports together, did dinners and lunches and whatnot. Lots of contact in between, texts mostly.
So for me the biggest difference was 'GFE' usually refers to what's on offer during a session. A SB extends that GFE into something that while paid approximates more an actual girlfriend relationship. It's not, which I ended up learning the hard way, not in a way where I got robbed or betrayed in any way but when it ended it was painful in a way that was way beyond losing a regular way to get my wick wet.
On a related note, I tried Secret Benefits again recently. It's a real dry hole. Lots of initial contact but no sustained conversations.

It's always good to get others perspective. It's true one size does not fit all.

We all look for that certain something in any relationship, whether its platonic, paid, or just a roll in the hay. As with all encounters even paid meetings demand an amount of trust. We can never assume because we paid for something we will get what we paid for. It s ok to expect it but assume we will get it is two separate thoughts. Shoot, we get burned on cars and houses. Why should pussy be any different?

Always being on point might be a key factor in making something like that work. Knowing what we want from the relationship. Always watching for telltale signs that indicate something may not be just the way we want it. Most important knowing what we don't want.

Although, JTerry's experience may have come to a painful conclusion, all matters of education have a beginning and ending class. JTerry is a wiser man for his quick education. All was not lost to say the least. I'm sure his eyes are more open to his wants and needs. He states he's been checking out Secret Benefits and so far not happy with the results. Would that be because there's nothing there for him? I don't think so. From his post my guess is hes more enlightened to what he wants and is now making choices.

He's more aware now about what he may have missed before. So knowing better now what he wants makes for a more informed experience. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[JTerry26]

While Gator has decades more experience than me, I actually have some experience here.

I had a woman I was seeing regularly, like 1-2 x / week. It started pretty transactional, just contacting to set things up and only meeting for sex.

Over time it got more GFE but stayed largely transactional. So a regular date with GFE, each meet up paid separate but more contact in between.

Finally, the transition to SB. I converted it to a fixed amount per week which I'd pay up front (I know, big no no). There was a bit of a handshake agreement about the amount of time / frequency that would buy. Neither of us abused that so it worked well. The biggest difference was the trust that was built had her do overnights at my place and then we traveled together a number of times. We also saw music and sports together, did dinners and lunches and whatnot. Lots of contact in between, texts mostly.

So for me the biggest difference was 'GFE' usually refers to what's on offer during a session. A SB extends that GFE into something that while paid approximates more an actual girlfriend relationship. It's not, which I ended up learning the hard way, not in a way where I got robbed or betrayed in any way but when it ended it was painful in a way that was way beyond losing a regular way to get my wick wet.

On a related note, I tried Secret Benefits again recently. It's a real dry hole. Lots of initial contact but no sustained conversations.

Depending on the arrangement between two people determines the answer to your question. I don't think there is a generic one size fits all answer.

As with any arrangement both parties should make their intentions and expectations known.

There's definitely a marked difference between a sugar baby / daddy relationship as opposed to a prostitute relationship. There's plenty of online material on both.

Knowing what it is you wish from that type relationship is the best start. Then you find somebody that can meet those needs. You can propose anything you wish to the other party. They either accept or reject the arrangement.

The main thing in any relationship with strangers is your safety. What will you and won't you do to maintain that level of safety. I'm sure you know some stories that didn't turn out as expected that have been made very public. Those mistakes was made because somebody left bases uncovered. Those stories didn't have to be made public.

So, it's best to keep your private information private. Don't reveal if you are from out of town. That can bite you. Don't be flashy with large sums of money. Going on a date someplace, make it anyplace you would ordinarily go. Paying by credit card? Maybe a prepaid visa would protect your interest better.

There's a lot to consider when entering into any relationship you wish to keep private.

No matter how you handle your choices, think them through and CYA. Research everything then decide which type arrangement you wish to have.

Now, here is the golden rule. When you give a woman any information that can be used against you, don't be a bit surprised if she does just that. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[Gator145]

Not sure if this is the right thread to post this. Trying to wrap my head around the difference between having a sugar baby and just being a regular repeat client. And what is the proposition to the provider if you want to go that route, compared to just keeping on with the repeat business OTC.

Depending on the arrangement between two people determines the answer to your question. I don't think there is a generic one size fits all answer.

As with any arrangement both parties should make their intentions and expectations known.

There's definitely a marked difference between a sugar baby / daddy relationship as opposed to a prostitute relationship. There's plenty of online material on both.

Knowing what it is you wish from that type relationship is the best start. Then you find somebody that can meet those needs. You can propose anything you wish to the other party. They either accept or reject the arrangement.

The main thing in any relationship with strangers is your safety. What will you and won't you do to maintain that level of safety. I'm sure you know some stories that didn't turn out as expected that have been made very public. Those mistakes was made because somebody left bases uncovered. Those stories didn't have to be made public.

So, it's best to keep your private information private. Don't reveal if you are from out of town. That can bite you. Don't be flashy with large sums of money. Going on a date someplace, make it anyplace you would ordinarily go. Paying by credit card? Maybe a prepaid visa would protect your interest better.

There's a lot to consider when entering into any relationship you wish to keep private.

No matter how you handle your choices, think them through and CYA. Research everything then decide which type arrangement you wish to have.

Now, here is the golden rule. When you give a woman any information that can be used against you, don't be a bit surprised if she does just that. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[James354]

Not sure if this is the right thread to post this. Trying to wrap my head around the difference between having a sugar baby and just being a regular repeat client. And what is the proposition to the provider if you want to go that route, compared to just keeping on with the repeat business OTC?

Thanks for your advice as always.