Streetwalker Reports

[Penis]

You can request counsel and stop answering questions prior to an arrest. You will NOT be arrested for simply refusing to answer questions. Look at Terri Horman for example.

Correct. However, my point was that you are not "entitled," as in the cops *must* stop talking to you until your lawyer is present, until you are actually arrested. It's admittedly something of a grey area but my understanding from my own research and talking to some attorney friends of mine (this means I'm not a lawyer and you should verify everything / anything I say for yourself) is that the police are not required to afford you access to a lawyer until such point as they formally place you under arrest. Effectively this means if you are not arrested and have asked for a lawyer anything you say is still admissible even though your lawyer isn't present. Again, this is my best understanding. YMMV

[Taxi Cab John]

And a reminder, you do not have a right to be represented until you are under arrest. Nor do you have to be Mirandized until you are under arrest. So it's a grey area where the cops can detain you if they have reasonable suspicion you committed a crime or violation but you don't have the right to be represented. You are never under any legal requirement to answer any questions from the police unless when driving a car and the police ask for your name, I.D., registration, and insurance info. However, even if you're not driving, not answering any questions at all such as name, purpose, etc, will surely get you detained for longer.

You can request counsel and stop answering questions prior to an arrest. You will NOT be arrested for simply refusing to answer questions. Look at Terri Horman for example.

Here was the scene at NW 20 PL and Burnside at about 10:10 last night. She was standing at this corner for over a half hour without being picked up. As discussed earlier, decoys will do this too but usually will work in pairs for safety reasons; but on occasion the partner will be sitting in street clothes on a bench. I have no clue what was going on here. (decoy or not a decoy)

[Hargow20]

It's best not to lie to the cop. The officers are questioning you to see if catch you in a lie. This may open you up to other criminal problems and may be used against you in court to establish your lack of credibility in court. The courts have also ruled that you do not have to be informed of your Miranda rights if you are arrested. If it is a more serious crime and you are questioned at the police station then there is a reasonable chance you will be advised of your rights. Your right to have attorney present during questioning regardless of whether you are under arrest or not. So your Miranda rights are in place at all times. So if you are stopped by a cop you can remain silent or you can wish to wait until you have a lawyer present.

I won't go so far as to agree they are "dirty," as that implies a level of corruption a bit beyond intimidating a suspect, but I will agree that at that point the best thing you can do is shut up. I saw a great lecture on youtube once from an attorney who stressed that you should never, under any circumstances, talk to the police even if you are innocent. It was quite revelatory. He stated that under a SCOTUS ruling, and I looked this up to verify, that anything you say to the police can be used against you but it CANNOT be used for you, at least not by the state. That means that even if you get a moral the or cop who wants to show something you said acquits you, it's not allowed and that would be up to you or your attorney. Think about that, the cops are not allowed to use anything you say to them to help you.

However it doesn't pay to piss off a cop if there is a chance you can walk away. Sure, you both know why you're there but you certainly can't tell the truth just to avoid pissing the cop off. Make up an innocuous, extremely simple, story and stick to it no matter what. If you start to get bullied, clam up and ask the officer if you are under arrest. If the answer is anything but 'yes, ' ask if you are free to go and limit your conversation to that.

And a reminder, you do not have a right to be represented until you are under arrest. Nor do you have to be Mirandized until you are under arrest. So it's a grey area where the cops can detain you if they have reasonable suspicion you committed a crime or violation but you don't have the right to be represented. You are never under any legal requirement to answer any questions from the police unless when driving a car and the police ask for your name, I. D, registration, and insurance info. However, even if you're not driving, not answering any questions at all such as name, purpose, etc, will surely get you detained for longer.

Here is some good, albeit basic, info-

http://aclu-or.org/content/know-your...-rights-oregon

http://aclu-or.org/sites/default/files/ACLU_KYR_

%20card_final_0. Pdf.

Taxi, you are correct. I did some research and Oregon has far more restrictive laws on this subject than I am used to. Audio-only recording in this situation is out. Video seems to be a grey area but would be difficult to pull off in this situation. I imagine an obvious video recorder would make a SW run and LEO will tell you to put it away or give you shit about video taping him / her. I'm going to look further into the legality / admissibility of hidden or not-too-obvious video recorders.

[Penis]

Any cop who threatens you for invoking a constitutionally protected right is a dirty cop. Do you really think there is any benefit to speak to someone who utilizes gestapo tactics? The only logical reason why they become agitated and threatening is that they have realized they have wasted time on you and have zero case. Don't disrespect the badge by treating the cop to a bullshit story that you are driving around looking for a lost puppy. Both you and the cop know exactly what you are doing. Take control of the situation and ask for your lawyer immediately.

I won't go so far as to agree they are "dirty," as that implies a level of corruption a bit beyond intimidating a suspect, but I will agree that at that point the best thing you can do is shut up. I saw a great lecture on youtube once from an attorney who stressed that you should never, under any circumstances, talk to the police even if you are innocent. It was quite revelatory. He stated that under a SCOTUS ruling, and I looked this up to verify, that anything you say to the police can be used against you but it CANNOT be used for you, at least not by the state. That means that even if you get a moral DA or cop who wants to show something you said acquits you, it's not allowed and that would be up to you or your attorney. Think about that, the cops are not allowed to use anything you say to them to help you.

However it doesn't pay to piss off a cop if there is a chance you can walk away. Sure, you both know why you're there but you certainly can't tell the truth just to avoid pissing the cop off. Make up an innocuous, extremely simple, story and stick to it no matter what. If you start to get bullied, clam up and ask the officer if you are under arrest. If the answer is anything but 'yes, ' ask if you are free to go and limit your conversation to that.

And a reminder, you do not have a right to be represented until you are under arrest. Nor do you have to be Mirandized until you are under arrest. So it's a grey area where the cops can detain you if they have reasonable suspicion you committed a crime or violation but you don't have the right to be represented. You are never under any legal requirement to answer any questions from the police unless when driving a car and the police ask for your name, I.D., registration, and insurance info. However, even if you're not driving, not answering any questions at all such as name, purpose, etc, will surely get you detained for longer.

Here is some good, albeit basic, info-

http://aclu-or.org/content/know-your...-rights-oregon

http://aclu-or.org/sites/default/files/ACLU_KYR_%20card_final_0. Pdf.

I don't know about other states, but in Oregon it is ILLEGAL to use tape recorder to tape a conversation without advising the other party or a warrant. HOWEVER it is 100% legal to discretely videotape (which contains audio) without telling anyone.

Taxi, you are correct. I did some research and Oregon has far more restrictive laws on this subject than I am used to. Audio-only recording in this situation is out. Video seems to be a grey area but would be difficult to pull off in this situation. I imagine an obvious video recorder would make a SW run and LEO will tell you to put it away or give you shit about video taping him / her. I'm going to look further into the legality / admissibility of hidden or not-too-obvious video recorders.

[Amp Guide]

Sorry for the late report. There was a nice looker who was near the nifty lubecops will also try to threaten you like crazy. By 84. I got the look but was too swamped. .15 min later. I looked for her. Just to get her contact info but did not see her. Oh well. I have been with the non pros lately. A lot more fun to find the clean fun sweet innocent ones. Off to out of town next week.

Cops will also try to threaten you. But usually not arrest you but rather cite and release. There is no room downtown for you to stay. It's already full of more serious bad guys. Just do not be a cash cow for them.

[Taxi Cab John]

This was the scene today at these streets at the 1 o'clock hour and again around 3:00pm.

Where is Jackson? This new uploader sucks and I wish he would bring back the basic uploader.

[NewToThis34]

Any cop who threatens you for invoking a constitutionally protected right is a dirty cop. Do you really think there is any benefit to speak to someone who utilizes gestapo tactics? The only logical reason why they become agitated and threatening is that they have realized they have wasted time on you and have zero case. Don't disrespect the badge by treating the cop to a bullshit story that you are driving around looking for a lost puppy. Both you and the cop know exactly what you are doing. Take control of the situation and ask for your lawyer immediately.

I don't know about other states, but in Oregon it is ILLEGAL to use tape recorder to tape a conversation without advising the other party or a warrant. HOWEVER it is 100% legal to discretely videotape (which contains audio) without telling anyone.

Here was the scene on 82 from about 7:00 am this morning.

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I'm new to this and not sure if thats a SW or cop in the pics? I see people posting them and just curios. I saw her last night on the same corner in the first pic.

Thank you.

[Taxi Cab John]

Any cop who threatens you for invoking a constitutionally protected right is a dirty cop. Do you really think there is any benefit to speak to someone who utilizes gestapo tactics? The only logical reason why they become agitated and threatening is that they have realized they have wasted time on you and have zero case. Don't disrespect the badge by treating the cop to a bullshit story that you are driving around looking for a lost puppy. Both you and the cop know exactly what you are doing. Take control of the situation and ask for your lawyer immediately.

I don't know about other states, but in Oregon it is ILLEGAL to use tape recorder to tape a conversation without advising the other party or a warrant. HOWEVER it is 100% legal to discretely videotape (which contains audio) without telling anyone.

Here was the scene on 82 from about 7:00 am this morning.

[Penis]

Some strict rules to follow-

1- in general, a SW who is LEO or working for him will stay in a small area so she can be observed / protected by the uncles in hiding. Never pick up a SW at first glance even though you run the risk of having her scooped out from under you. Drive by at least twice and be sure she is actually WALKING. I do a min of three drive bys and see that she's actually covering some ground. Decoys or undercovers will almost never do this.

2- if the SW won't get in your car and allow you to drive away from the scene of the pickup, she's your uncle Leo or working for him. Just say there was a misunderstanding and drive away. If you are then pulled over say NOTHING to the police except that you were just driving by (having a reason to be in the neighborhood will help if they press you) and were trying to be nice by offering a ride. NEVER ask a SW anything except "do you need a ride" until the next few steps are satisfactorily completed and never ever for any reason say anything other than that phrase through the window.

! Again- if she wants to talk without getting in, say nothing and GTFO. This is really the most important rule.

3- if the SW does get in and let's you drive off with her in the car be aware of all the vehicles in the vicinity and make some immediate turns noting if any of them follow you. Drive a few blocks and make innocuous chitchat with the SW. What's your name, you from around here, etc. It can't hurt to have your smartphone recording your conversations either.

4- before you EVER mention anything to do with a transaction or services do the LE check and don't let her skimp on it. Demand reassurance. Have her fully expose her breasts and let you touch them and then have her touch your johnson, most SWs will also give it a quick suck. This is best because no one working for your uncle can legit do that. If you can get a feel of her nether regions that is also a good check.

If you get through 1, 2, 3 and 4 without any hiccups, you are 99. 9% sure it's not your uncle and if you've got your phone recording and streaming to your remote server you can prove entrapment.


EDIT- also, never pull over on the main drag. Pull over on a side street ahead of the SW. Let her see you, make eye contact, etc. A dark place is best and then drive off and don't go back to the stroll for several blocks or longer if you can avoid it. Also refrain from any obvious u-turns or highly noticeable moves on/near the stroll with your vehicle. If you have to turn around pull off onto a side street and go a block and make a couple turns to come out a block or two up or down the stroll. Yes, this takes time and she can get scooped but it's much better to go home with only your hand for company than to spend the night with your Uncle Leo.

[SmileyScout]

If LE gives you a hard time; show the cop the photos and tell them you are part of a neighborhood watch group, or better yet tell them that take the photos so you can masturbate in front of your computer screen! (all perfectly legal uses)

No one who knows what they are doing should ever get charged (or convicted) of anything illegal involving the girls. If all else fails and you are pulled over, you AND THE SW ask for a lawyer immediately. They will not be allowed by law to ask any questions (other than your name, insurance, registration, etc.) and they will be forced to let you both go. [If you are going to utilize this strategy both people should ask for attorneys BEFORE they separate you.

Cops lie all the time. The worst thing is that they actually lie under oath. A lawyer friend tells me that the DEA is the worst.

Portland cops are notorious for lying and saying that the other party ratted on the other]

[/QUOTE]This isn't exactly true. Technically the cops are supposed to stop the interrogation the second you ask for a lawyer, but it's VERY unlikely they'll face punishment if they keep going. One of the tricks they love to pull is persuading a suspect to change their mind about getting an attorney (like, they'll threaten to arrest you if you insist on an attorney, but if you answer all their questions they'll let you go, which is complete BS). If you say anything about not needing an attorney after all, everything you say becomes admissible again.

Cops also won't be forced to let you go just because you asked for a lawyer. In Portland, being in a car with someone who has previous convictions for prostitution is enough to get you charged. A good lawyer can stop you from getting convicted based on that, but you'll still be stuck taking a trip down to the detention center. And the cops will make your life hell until you're released.

(Standard disclaimer: This report is not to be taken as legal advice, it is one person's subjective opinion.)

[Taxi Cab John]

I reiterate my earlier warning about checking IDs. This was at about 3:00am this morning.

[Hargow20]

If LE gives you a hard time; show the cop the photos and tell them you are part of a neighborhood watch group, or better yet tell them that take the photos so you can masturbate in front of your computer screen! (all perfectly legal uses)

No one who knows what they are doing should ever get charged (or convicted) of anything illegal involving the girls. If all else fails and you are pulled over, you AND THE SW ask for a lawyer immediately. They will not be allowed by law to ask any questions (other than your name, insurance, registration, etc.) and they will be forced to let you both go. [If you are going to utilize this strategy both people should ask for attorneys BEFORE they separate you.

Cops lie all the time. The worst thing is that they actually lie under oath. A lawyer friend tells me that the DEA is the worst.

Portland cops are notorious for lying and saying that the other party ratted on the other][/QUOTE]

[Davidonecall]

If I was driving by I think I would get arrested. Maybe not because I follow the golden rules but that's a very good idea about taking pictures. You are right you can do whatever you want in your house. Like the pics.

This was the scene at 82 and Fremont today at about 3:25. You may want to check IDs when picking up passengers.

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Did anyone else see the very obvious sting operation yesterday at 82 and Stark? Very sad news for any of you who may have got caught in the cross-hairs with a bullshit procurement charge. I am not here to offer legal advice, but it is perfectly legal to snap photos of people walking on public sidewalks and drive up and down known prostitution areas to facilitate that goal. If LE gives you a hard time; show the cop the photos and tell them you are part of a neighborhood watch group, or better yet tell them that take the photos so you can masturbate in front of your computer screen! (all perfectly legal uses)

No one who knows what they are doing should ever get charged (or convicted) of anything illegal involving the girls. If all else fails and you are pulled over, you AND THE SW ask for a lawyer immediately. They will not be allowed by law to ask any questions (other than your name, insurance, registration, etc.) and they will be forced to let you both go. [If you are going to utilize this strategy both people should ask for attorneys BEFORE they separate you. Portland cops are notorious for lying and saying that the other party ratted on the other]

[Taxi Cab John]

This was the scene at 82 and Fremont today at about 3:25. You may want to check IDs when picking up passengers.













Did anyone else see the very obvious sting operation yesterday at 82 and Stark? Very sad news for any of you who may have got caught in the cross-hairs with a bullshit procurement charge. I am not here to offer legal advice, but it is perfectly legal to snap photos of people walking on public sidewalks and drive up and down known prostitution areas to facilitate that goal. If LE gives you a hard time; show the cop the photos and tell them you are part of a neighborhood watch group, or better yet tell them that take the photos so you can masturbate in front of your computer screen! (all perfectly legal uses)

No one who knows what they are doing should ever get charged (or convicted) of anything illegal involving the girls. If all else fails and you are pulled over, you AND THE SW ask for a lawyer immediately. They will not be allowed by law to ask any questions (other than your name, insurance, registration, etc.) and they will be forced to let you both go. [If you are going to utilize this strategy both people should ask for attorneys BEFORE they separate you - Portland cops are notorious for lying and saying that the other party ratted on the other]

[Taxi Cab John]

Looks like she was on to you. lol

She would know it if she was on me. Ha-ha-ha!

Here was the scene on 82 and Klickitat today at about 6:00pm. (sorry I don't know the exact time)











Word on the street is there is sporadic LE coverage in the Cully section of 82 before 5 or 6 in the evening. Allegedly this is because the economy is so bad, there has been an explosion of foot traffic on 82. So in an effort to control things, the section of 82 between the high school and Sandy has been sacrificed by LE as an unofficial red light district until further notice.