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[JmSuttr]

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help..

If you take every possible precaution, but refrain from mongering unless and until you have a 99.99% sure opportunity (which will probably pop up at random), at some point your wife might (emphasis on might) become less vigilant. But only you will know if that ever happens, and only you will know what circumstances could push her back into hyper-vigilant mode again.

Also, with all due respect to those who offered advice for defeating specific tracking measures, like AirTags, my overarching point is that you'll never be able to predict with absolute certainty what your wife might do. For (just one) example, instead of hiring an expensive PI, maybe she asks a friend or family member to do some snooping? She doesn't need a professional dossier, she just needs confirmation of her suspicions. And, as I'm sure you know, the threshold for a third strike is probably pretty low. Suspicious wives don't require the standard of proof that would be needed in other circumstances. A near-miss, or a combination of several near-misses, is often enough to tip the scales.

The unfortunate truth is that there's no good answer to your predicament. You and your wife are fundamentally incompatible, at least when it comes to your sex lives. If that can't be changed, then the ongoing stress (for both of you) will continue. Over time your complicated and entangled situation could become more so, less so, or stay the same. If divorce or separation is never going to be in the realm of possibility, then all you can do is figure out how best to resign yourself to the reality of your situation. If divorce or separation does look like it will eventually happen, then your best recourse is to figure out how to get ahead of it and manage things such that your life, and that of your family, isn't totally wrecked.

Again, good luck!

[JClearMan1]

Ammpro, if you are worried that your wife put an air tag in your car, you should be able to locate the signal with your own iphone. I'm not familiar with Apple products, but I think you can change the settings to get a signal, and the air tag should come up as an unrecognized device. For Android phones, there's an app Tracker Detector. I've not used it, but I'm going to start trying it out.

Yes, it's easy: you open the "Find My" app, open "Items" and click "Add item". The phone will scan for nearby AirTags.

[JClearMan1]

Looking for help, suggestions, I asked this question a cpl of years ago and never found anything that worked, hoping technology has improved or someone else has an idea. I've been mongering for 30 years, married 28, my wife has caught me twice and has stayed with me contingent on me going to counseling, us together going, and her having open access to my phone as well as being tracked through my phone by her, many will ask " why would you put up with that BS?" , well, many, many reasons including children but most importantly money, insurance, its very complicated. Anyway,

On my days off I'd like to visit an AMP, I can't leave my phone at home because she randomly texts throughout the morning and day, " how are you?" what are you doing? If I don't respond within a reasonable amount of time, she'll know I just left my phone at home. If I take my phone with me, " why were you at _ in Salem ma for 1 hour?" ect, ect. If I turn off my location, I get " why is your location off?

My question, is there any kind of APP that I can leave my phone at home but have the # on a second phone for responding to texts but would show my location as home? Or any other Idea's?

My thing is really AMPs as I love the Asians, I've had prostitutes over to the house on days off that way my location is good but then I'm opening myself up to a whole other level of danger.

Any help is greatly appreciated, PM is fine as well. Thank you!

AMP.

I have the same situation going on, but I've figured out how to get around it completely foolproof: if you have an iPhone and an iPad (or like me, two iPhones: personal and work), you can go into "Find My" on the device you're going to leave at home, turn on "Find My iPhone" and then select "Share my location from this device". Then, on the device you take with you, you disable "Find my iPhone" entirely. Since your location is shared via your Apple ID, only one device can be representative of where you are. This way, you could be mid thrust and reply to a text. I literally have.

[SalamanderFour]

Ammpro, if you are worried that your wife put an air tag in your car, you should be able to locate the signal with your own iphone. I'm not familiar with Apple products, but I think you can change the settings to get a signal, and the air tag should come up as an unrecognized device. For Android phones, there's an app Tracker Detector. I've not used it, but I'm going to start trying it out.

[KashkaiBoy]

This sounds right to me. This might not be helpful but I'd suggest first trying to open up to your wife honestly about your sexual needs. If you and she are not clicking, she deserves you to be as honest as you can about it. I know of a few friends who have had the conversation with spouses which led to an understanding that occasional non-emotionally connected extramural sexual activity, with protections, could be acceptable (in a don't ask / don't tell way). If both sides can get on the same page about what is valuable about the marriage -- which could be parenting together, financial reasons, affection, support, etc. -- sex might not have to be the measure of commitment. But that won't work in every situation, and if for your wife monogamy is an absolute must, then either you need to figure out how to stay away from AMPs or you need to end the marriage and deal with the consequences. I'm sure I don't need to tell you, living the life of a liar is really shitty and takes a toll on you. And you seem like a good guy, I'm sure you can understand why your wife is acting the way she does.

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help.

AMP.

[MajorJohnson]

What about saying your back is sore and you need a massage? Not sure how much she knows but I believe in hiding in plane sight. If you tell her you are trying a massage place because some random guy told you that woman does a good massage and it really helped his back. If she's cool with the idea that opens up a ton of possibilities. Good luck.

My buddy told his wife that the guy he sees does a good job, and it's actually a girl who does a great job "plus".

[Woody32]

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help.

AMP.

What about saying your back is sore and you need a massage? Not sure how much she knows but I believe in hiding in plane sight. If you tell her you are trying a massage place because some random guy told you that woman does a good massage and it really helped his back. If she's cool with the idea that opens up a ton of possibilities. Good luck.

[Amppro95]

If you're under the level of scrutiny you describe, it would be prudent to assume that the techniques and tactics your wife is currently using will (at some point) change, evolve, and adapt, in unexpected ways.

For example, you could get everything well-sorted as far as your phone is concerned, and she could unexpectedly hide an Air Tag, or similar tracker, in your car or in some other thing you might not suspect.

Since you're in an especially dicey position, as a third strike is likely to be your last, my main point is that you can't ever afford to let your guard down and need to always be thinking ahead. Even with that, the risk-reward ratio is rather precarious. I certainly understand your urges, but your situation definitely calls for thinking about what could happen in a worst-case scenario. Good luck!

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help.

AMP.

[JmSuttr]

Looking for help, suggestions, I asked this question a cpl of years ago and never found anything that worked, hoping technology has improved or someone else has an idea. I've been mongering for 30 years, married 28, my wife has caught me twice and has stayed with me contingent on me going to counseling, us together going, and her having open access to my phone as well as being tracked through my phone by her, many will ask " why would you put up with that BS?" , well, many, many reasons including children but most importantly money, insurance, its very complicated. Anyway,

On my days off I'd like to visit an AMP, I can't leave my phone at home because she randomly texts throughout the morning and day, " how are you?" what are you doing? If I don't respond within a reasonable amount of time, she'll know I just left my phone at home. If I take my phone with me, " why were you at _ in Salem ma for 1 hour?" ect, ect. If I turn off my location, I get " why is your location off?

My question, is there any kind of APP that I can leave my phone at home but have the # on a second phone for responding to texts but would show my location as home? Or any other Idea's?

My thing is really AMPs as I love the Asians, I've had prostitutes over to the house on days off that way my location is good but then I'm opening myself up to a whole other level of danger.

Any help is greatly appreciated, PM is fine as well. Thank you!

AMP.

If you're under the level of scrutiny you describe, it would be prudent to assume that the techniques and tactics your wife is currently using will (at some point) change, evolve, and adapt, in unexpected ways.

For example, you could get everything well-sorted as far as your phone is concerned, and she could unexpectedly hide an Air Tag, or similar tracker, in your car or in some other thing you might not suspect.

Since you're in an especially dicey position, as a third strike is likely to be your last, my main point is that you can't ever afford to let your guard down and need to always be thinking ahead. Even with that, the risk-reward ratio is rather precarious. I certainly understand your urges, but your situation definitely calls for thinking about what could happen in a worst-case scenario. Good luck!

[DonnnyBravo]

Looking for help, suggestions, I asked this question a cpl of years ago and never found anything that worked, hoping technology has improved or someone else has an idea. I've been mongering for 30 years, married 28, my wife has caught me twice and has stayed with me contingent on me going to counseling, us together going, and her having open access to my phone as well as being tracked through my phone by her, many will ask " why would you put up with that BS?" , well, many, many reasons including children but most importantly money, insurance, its very complicated. Anyway,

On my days off I'd like to visit an AMP, I can't leave my phone at home because she randomly texts throughout the morning and day, " how are you?" what are you doing? If I don't respond within a reasonable amount of time, she'll know I just left my phone at home. If I take my phone with me, " why were you at _ in Salem ma for 1 hour?" ect, ect. If I turn off my location, I get " why is your location off?

My question, is there any kind of APP that I can leave my phone at home but have the # on a second phone for responding to texts but would show my location as home? Or any other Idea's?

My thing is really AMPs as I love the Asians, I've had prostitutes over to the house on days off that way my location is good but then I'm opening myself up to a whole other level of danger.

Any help is greatly appreciated, PM is fine as well. Thank you!

AMP.

Various options, some better than others.

1 - if it has a physical SIM, move the SIM to a different phone and keep the other phone on in a wifi area where you want to appear.

2 - ATT has NumberSync that you can use the same number on multiple devices.

3 - have call forwarding set, but this may show the caller the switching of number.

4 - GPS spoofer app to set a specific location on your phone. Lock it in while at work, the mall, casino, home depot, etc.

5 - turn off location services on you phone when out. This could look fishy if she's always tracking.

These might not all work out the same but are possibilities. I'm sure there are more options out there.

[Amppro95]

Looking for help, suggestions, I asked this question a cpl of years ago and never found anything that worked, hoping technology has improved or someone else has an idea. I've been mongering for 30 years, married 28, my wife has caught me twice and has stayed with me contingent on me going to counseling, us together going, and her having open access to my phone as well as being tracked through my phone by her, many will ask " why would you put up with that BS?" , well, many, many reasons including children but most importantly money, insurance, its very complicated. Anyway,

On my days off I'd like to visit an AMP, I can't leave my phone at home because she randomly texts throughout the morning and day, " how are you?" what are you doing? If I don't respond within a reasonable amount of time, she'll know I just left my phone at home. If I take my phone with me, " why were you at _ in Salem ma for 1 hour?" ect, ect. If I turn off my location, I get " why is your location off?

My question, is there any kind of APP that I can leave my phone at home but have the # on a second phone for responding to texts but would show my location as home? Or any other Idea's?

My thing is really AMPs as I love the Asians, I've had prostitutes over to the house on days off that way my location is good but then I'm opening myself up to a whole other level of danger.

Any help is greatly appreciated, PM is fine as well. Thank you!

AMP.

[LustyB]

These are apps I've used in the past, but not recently:

Flyp and 2nd Line, both free (last time I checked). Maybe someone in the forum might have info that's more up to date. Good luck!

I use text free and text now. I find most girls are fine with setting up dates by text. I used to use a burner phone but it too much trouble. I keep the text apps buried deep in sub folders and turn off notifications. If a girl won't take texts from an app, fuck her. We have to stay safe too.

[JmSuttr]

This app is practically useless now. If you're on a hunt one morning and strolling through ads, the app will only allow you to message 2-3 new numbers. If you don't get responses, it basically stops you from sending new messages up to a period of time. This is prevent SPAM from what it says. I still don't use my real number and haven't used it for years now. What are most of you Mongers using now a days? I could get a pre-paid phone. But it's one more device that I don't want to carry around.

These are apps I've used in the past, but not recently:

Flyp and 2nd Line, both free (last time I checked). Maybe someone in the forum might have info that's more up to date. Good luck!

[SalamanderFour]

This app is practically useless now. If you're on a hunt one morning and strolling through ads, the app will only allow you to message 2-3 new numbers. If you don't get responses, it basically stops you from sending new messages up to a period of time. This is prevent SPAM from what it says. I still don't use my real number and haven't used it for years now. What are most of you Mongers using now a days? I could get a pre-paid phone. But it's one more device that I don't want to carry around.

None of Google free services (including Gmail, Voice) are anonymous. If you use Google services, sooner or later Google will identify you even if you don't use your real name. Some have reported that a search of the Google voice number shows a link to their true name, etc.

I admit, google voice is convenient, but not as secure as a true burner phone.

[Mattis1775]

This app is practically useless now. If you're on a hunt one morning and strolling through ads, the app will only allow you to message 2-3 new numbers. If you don't get responses, it basically stops you from sending new messages up to a period of time. This is prevent SPAM from what it says. I still don't use my real number and haven't used it for years now. What are most of you Mongers using now a days? I could get a pre-paid phone. But it's one more device that I don't want to carry around.