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  1. #25993

    Waltham

    "I continued heading west, and passed right by the place on upper Moody St. , across from Heidi's breakfast place. (got to admit, I like that little place and big George.) As I went through the Moody St intersection, and entered Maple St, I had a flashback. I have long-missed the massage place that used to be in the back little parking lot on Maple St, in the church parking lot. Always had great service there. One of the Asian women used to sing songs to me in Spanish. It was kinda weird, but she had a great soothing voice, plus, the women there provided great low priced FS. (If that place was still open, it would have gotten my vote as the absolutely dirtiest place in Waltham). ".

    Good post.

    Trying to help, it's lower Moody st, south side. Upper moody is at Main Street.

    The place that used to be on Maple street in the church parking lot is now the across from Heidi's. It relocated years ago and is more upscale, nicer and clean. You were right there and same mamasan as Maple.

  2. #25992

    Correct

    Every situation is different, one size doesn't fit all. I was personally caught in a VERY public display which I had to extricate myself from immediately and at all cost. PD jackets and detective badges blatant with numerous onlookers. Answer the questions to the best of your ability or they take you to the station to answer there, over several hours of detention which would not be explicable to an SO or employer. Giving up limited info in exchange for a limited interrogation can work. Legally you owe them nothing but the inside of the police station is unnecessary. They took my phone, illegally but I played along to get along. After the tough guy BS had zero effect they said I was free to go but stopped me as I was leaving to pry for trafficking and under age. This is where you can honestly report they are all 30-40-50+,nobody under age and everything is very appropriate- they already know it's a massage w / he, they just visited the day before.

    The law "experts " on here will vehemently argue but every situation is different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katokay  [View Original Post]
    Their questioning would not be ".

    Asking if there was any sexual contact". It would more be like" We know you had sexual contact, tell the truth and we'll let you go home. We have proof that you paid for sex. Tell us one more time that you didn't and you will be arrested and your name and picture will be on front page of Boston globe and your local paper. You can give your side of the story to the judge but in the meantime you're family and your employer will be reading all about you tomorrow. You're decision, you have 5 seconds or I'm putting the cuffs on. " Oh and by the way if you tell the truth and ask the cop why you're not being let go, his response will be he was going to let you go but his sergeant overruled him but he's sorry.

  3. #25991

    Silence is golden

    Quote Originally Posted by Katokay  [View Original Post]
    Their questioning would not be ".

    Asking if there was any sexual contact". It would more be like" We know you had sexual contact, tell the truth and we'll let you go home. We have proof that you paid for sex. Tell us one more time that you didn't and you will be arrested and your name and picture will be on front page of Boston globe and your local paper. You can give your side of the story to the judge but in the meantime you're family and your employer will be reading all about you tomorrow. You're decision, you have 5 seconds or I'm putting the cuffs on. " Oh and by the way if you tell the truth and ask the cop why you're not being let go, his response will be he was going to let you go but his sergeant overruled him but he's sorry.
    And at that point I'd clam up, say nothing further, look him (or her) straight in the eyes and present my wrists, palms down, and call their bluff.

    They're armed thugs and have all the power in a case like this. They DON'T have proof. They use intimidation and scare tactics.

    Don't fall for it!! As I said, cooperate but don't tell them shit!! Let your lawyer handle it. If it gets to that point you're fucked as far as recanting your story, so STFU and continue to STFU!! If you don't say anything they can't use it against you!!

  4. #25990

    Amp

    Quote Originally Posted by DurtyDawg  [View Original Post]
    "Anything you say can and WILL be used against you in a court of law". Depend on that. Not FOR you, against you! So shut up!

    I can't even imagine how their "questioning" might even start. A simple "What are you doing here"? Or "Excuse me, may I ask you a few questions"?

    "Sure! It's a spa. I got a massage", not "It's a massage parlour". Make it sound innocent and un-interesting from the start. Act and speak like an up-standing member of the community. Don't volunteer ANY information without a direct question. Be cooperative without really telling them anything. I've never even seen LE at an AMP, but if I WERE stopped and questioned the MOST I'd ever say is "I got a massage. It's cheaper than the chiropractor, my insurance covers it, my wife goes here and suggested it, so I took her advice"!

    If asked if there was any sexual contact I'd act absolutely indignant and embarrass the fuck out of them! "Excuse me? What? What kind of question is that? That's offensive!!Asking me a question like that! You should be ashamed of yourself"! Put THEM on the defensive! Then quickly apologize. "I'm sorry, but that was totally unexpected. Please forgive my reaction".

    I'm old. I can get away with shit like that. Lmao.

    Younger guys might have a tougher time going that route but the theory should still be the same. "I have a sports injury and this is the therapy my doctor recommended", or you were hurt at work, something on those lines.

    NEVER admit to sexual contact! Protect yourself, protect them, make it all sound above-board and professional. As you walk away limp to your car. Lmao.

    Then go home and take a nap.
    Their questioning would not be ".

    Asking if there was any sexual contact". It would more be like" We know you had sexual contact, tell the truth and we'll let you go home. We have proof that you paid for sex. Tell us one more time that you didn't and you will be arrested and your name and picture will be on front page of Boston globe and your local paper. You can give your side of the story to the judge but in the meantime you're family and your employer will be reading all about you tomorrow. You're decision, you have 5 seconds or I'm putting the cuffs on. " Oh and by the way if you tell the truth and ask the cop why you're not being let go, his response will be he was going to let you go but his sergeant overruled him but he's sorry.

  5. #25989

    Don't say anything!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimmm33  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the report and thanks to the moderators for leaving it up. We will all have to digest this and come to our own decisions. I personally come here as much for the warnings / staying safe as for the reports on good spots. Esp since the Kraft episode.

    With the goal of NOT pissing off LEO if I am stopped coming out of an AMP, can someone run through exactly what my rights are in MA if I am detained? Again, please be realistic. I would prefer for the interaction with LEO to be firm but POLITE.

    Z.
    "Anything you say can and WILL be used against you in a court of law". Depend on that. Not FOR you, against you! So shut up!

    I can't even imagine how their "questioning" might even start. A simple "What are you doing here"? Or "Excuse me, may I ask you a few questions"?

    "Sure! It's a spa. I got a massage", not "It's a massage parlour". Make it sound innocent and un-interesting from the start. Act and speak like an up-standing member of the community. Don't volunteer ANY information without a direct question. Be cooperative without really telling them anything. I've never even seen LE at an AMP, but if I WERE stopped and questioned the MOST I'd ever say is "I got a massage. It's cheaper than the chiropractor, my insurance covers it, my wife goes here and suggested it, so I took her advice"!

    If asked if there was any sexual contact I'd act absolutely indignant and embarrass the fuck out of them! "Excuse me? What? What kind of question is that? That's offensive!!Asking me a question like that! You should be ashamed of yourself"! Put THEM on the defensive! Then quickly apologize. "I'm sorry, but that was totally unexpected. Please forgive my reaction".

    I'm old. I can get away with shit like that. Lmao.

    Younger guys might have a tougher time going that route but the theory should still be the same. "I have a sports injury and this is the therapy my doctor recommended", or you were hurt at work, something on those lines.

    NEVER admit to sexual contact! Protect yourself, protect them, make it all sound above-board and professional. As you walk away limp to your car. Lmao.

    Then go home and take a nap.

  6. #25988

    Re-clarifying for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by HomerSpinSome  [View Original Post]
    It wasn't among the 3 dirtiest AMPs in Waltham.

    She didn't offer full service.

    My experience matches Jay's. But Linden is way too out in the open given the current climate. Jay I hope you don't mind me butting in. Your post was clear enough to me.
    I listed Linden as the dirtiest parlor in Waltham not because they have muddy puddles on the floor or walls smeared with feces. You wouldn't see anything like that. I just said that both the tranny and chubby Apple are barebacking people non-stop and the parlor doesn't have a shower. It means that if you visit them after 10:00 AM, there is a good chance that you will be playing someone else's thick white fluid. They don't force you to f-k them bare, LOL! But if you want it, it's readily available.

    There is only one "she" there, Apple. The tranny is a man with a part of the colon disguised as a vag.

  7. #25987

    Clarifying for you

    Quote Originally Posted by Trickster666  [View Original Post]
    What wasn't and who is she who didn't? "Didn't" what? Thank you in advance for clarification!
    It wasn't among the 3 dirtiest AMPs in Waltham.

    She didn't offer full service.

    My experience matches Jay's. But Linden is way too out in the open given the current climate. Jay I hope you don't mind me butting in. Your post was clear enough to me.

  8. #25986

    Going way back

    Quote Originally Posted by Scraggy  [View Original Post]
    Went to her often long ago before she moved to Acton. One of the best massages ever and I enjoyed the hot tub. At that time, didn't partake of extras and the rubber glove is a big "no" for me. But if you're after a great Esalen massage, Tai's your girl.
    I also saw her a couple times before she moved to Acton, I think it was in Wayland, probably 25 years ago. I was in my 20's and It was before I ever had a sensual massage. I was too naive to realize when she asked me at the end if there was anything else she could do for me she was asking me to tell her I wanted a HE. But it was the best massage I ever had and I left feeling like a lump of jello. I repeated but work and location kept me from going back more, then she moved and it was just too far. Plus I lived in Boston, lots of options close to home in those days. Fast forward to about 5 years ago, heard here that more was available so I thought I'd see if massage was still as good plus happiness. Long story short, the massage was nowhere near as good as I remembered and at the end she just said all done and walked out before I had a chance to ask about more. Not that I'm sure I'd have wanted it as I'm guessing she was mid-late 60's then so has to be pushing 70 by now.

  9. #25985
    Quote Originally Posted by Victorth  [View Original Post]
    Went there several times, but years ago. Tai (assuming she's still the sole masseuse) is a gentle caring person but I stopped because (1) I didn't care for her massage (just a personal preference thing), (2) won't wait until after extras before insisting on the tip, (3) uses a rubber glove. Hot tub is nice, but boring to sit alone. Also a bit more costly (was $90 before a tip).
    Went to her often long ago before she moved to Acton. One of the best massages ever and I enjoyed the hot tub. At that time, didn't partake of extras and the rubber glove is a big "no" for me. But if you're after a great Esalen massage, Tai's your girl.

  10. #25984
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay117  [View Original Post]
    I was at Linden last week. It wasn't, and she didn't.

    We should make a drinking game out of these posts. Was your cat run over by a trans-sexual or something?
    What wasn't and who is she who didn't? "Didn't" what? Thank you in advance for clarification!

  11. #25983

    Thanks

    Thanks for the report and thanks to the moderators for leaving it up. We will all have to digest this and come to our own decisions. I personally come here as much for the warnings / staying safe as for the reports on good spots. Esp since the Kraft episode.

    With the goal of NOT pissing off LEO if I am stopped coming out of an AMP, can someone run through exactly what my rights are in MA if I am detained? Again, please be realistic. I would prefer for the interaction with LEO to be firm but POLITE.

    Z.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trailman44  [View Original Post]
    So I made a recent trip to one of my favorite spots. I don't partake often but when I do I drop a review. It had been several months since I had been here and much has changed. I saw Gina (same girl new name) and from the start I could spot the differences. I asked for the typical shower and they led me to the room. The table shower is gone and the shower is now a solo event.

    We made it back to the room, I hopped on the table and the massage began. She started discussing how they had been very recently visited by many uncles and it is why it felt different. She stopped and asked me if I was comfortable with that and wanted to continue on. She made it very clear that they were still under a watchful eye. I needed a good massage so I continued on. This why I keep coming back. She did a fantastic job for the hour and I was on my way. Everything was face down and while playful she was quite reserved. She discussed the recent changes at the beginning and end of the massage.

    Couple stories she told:

    -They learned that visitors were being stopped and questioned on their way out. Said this was happening a few weeks before the visit.

    -She knew of other spas that were visited and shutdown with up to 30 people and 20 of them were regular visitors of those spas. For years.

    -The goals were laid out to them during the visit and it is a matter of time before every location in MA gets a visit. If they haven't been visited yet, they are collecting information and watching the location. If they aren't watching yet. They will be.

    -There are a lot of resources behind this with many 3 letter agencies involved with local support.

    I'm not trying to create fear. Just passing along what I heard for stories.

  12. #25982

    Rose Hopedale

    Went to Rose Day. Called ahead and was told Yuyu was working, and when I got there they acknowledged my call, but I'm 95% sure my provider wasn't Yuyu. (last I saw her was 6 mo ago at least).

    Anyway she was quite nice, very cuddly, half on the table for most of the time, and completely on for some of the time. Nude full-access Saran finish for $. I hate Saran so I wouldn't do that part again, but the rest for sure. If only I knew her name.

    (This is the one on the Main Street by the cupcake store, not the Evergreen one a few blocks away)

  13. #25981
    Quote Originally Posted by Trickster666  [View Original Post]
    Hard to tell which one is the cleanest. Most of them look identical in this respect. But I can give you top 3 which seem to be the dirtiest in Waltham. The place at Linden easily beats them all. Two providers there, the tranny and Apple, and they f-k bare everyone indiscriminately regardless how long they know them, 5 years or 5 minutes.
    I was at Linden last week. It wasn't, and she didn't.

    We should make a drinking game out of these posts. Was your cat run over by a trans-sexual or something?

  14. #25980

    Bedford

    Went to relaxation spa, got a flat chested petite provider who looked to be early to mid 30's. Cute face, nice personality. Paid 40 for half hour. Massage was very clinical and harder than I prefer. She was dressed in yoga pants and t-shirt. Little to no tease, allowed OTC roaming, pulled away from UTC but didn't outright deny. Asked about tip upfront which puts me off. Finish was mechanical. Clean up was tissues and a re-used warm washcloth. Some inconsiderate monger came in about halfway into massage talking and carrying on very loudly. Would not stop talking which was a distraction. How about whispering or using movie theater voice please. Left the agreed upon tip of 50. Probably won't repeat. I can get a no-haggle BBBJ at South st for 30 more.

  15. #25979
    Quote Originally Posted by TwoQplus2Q  [View Original Post]
    I started in Newton Highlands one night this week, the route starting at Galen and Washington St. Decided not to try Debbie's in adjacent Watertown. Tempted to head over to One Main or Waverly in Watertown, but decided against that (too worried they are being closed surveilled).

    I detoured via going down Adams St, but continued on because not sure if that place was closed nowadays and even if still open, I have not read anything good about the place.

    Decided to go down to Red Azalea. Had not been there in years. Got there, ready to park to go in. Something said nahhhh.

    So I continued the unscripted journey on the path and got to 249/251 High in Waltham. Was going to park in front of the cemetery. But said no to myself, because if Waverly and One Main are being watched, then I would not risk it with their sister High St location. So I just kept on goin.

    I then headed toward the place next to the corner of High and 299 Newton St. No convenient parking space, so I passed on that place too.

    I continued heading west, and passed right by the place on upper Moody St. , across from Heidi's breakfast place. (got to admit, I like that little place and big George.) As I went through the Moody St intersection, and entered Maple St, I had a flashback. I have long-missed the massage place that used to be in the back little parking lot on Maple St, in the church parking lot. Always had great service there. One of the Asian women used to sing songs to me in Spanish. It was kinda weird, but she had a great soothing voice, plus, the women there provided great low priced FS. (If that place was still open, it would have gotten my vote as the absolutely dirtiest place in Waltham).

    Arrived at 32 South St, went in. No one was in the reception room area. Observed the middle rubroom door, which was opened a crack, slowwwwwly and quietly close. I knew what that meant (get dressed and quickly wipe cum off of her hands or body). Then, who pops out, but Angela herself. I looked at her puffy face cheeks. Talked to her for a moment. Observed another provider that was there. Decided I really did not even want to be there. So I quickly left that place.

    Then I walked from Angela's place over to Main St. Remember, I am in Waltham, not Watertown. I decided to go to 986, vs ex-Apple's 1060 or the upstairs Oasis place at 976. Greeted by Coco and crew, but drew the girl with like a French name. Before writing this review, I saw a post where one of you guys rated 986 right up there (or, is it right down there) as being one of the dirtiest places in Waltham. That was funny, because while I was on the table with my head in the hole, I opened my eyes, and had a clear view of how the rug was completely worn out with only subfloor exposed. So I guess I agree it is not a clean place. But they change the paper on the table each time. I don't go there to walk around the place in my bare feet, and I don't lie on the floor, so the lack of the floor being gross and not clean does not bother me. The rest of the rooms and hallway are reasonably clean based on my low standards.

    Frenchy was great for massage and the visit. She really took care of pain points in my back that I didn't realize I had until she massaged them. She in no way tried to rush me, and she specifically did not short me even one minute of my time. As typical during my past visits there, Coco is warm and welcoming when she is available. I left what I think is a good tip, and will be back there soon.
    Nine paragraphs of absolutely benign information. Thanks I guess.

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