Does anybody have any experience at all with this one?
She said she is at the Casa on Brady in Davenport. Was willing to deal for a fifty spot last night. I just want to know what I'm jumping into. Obviously she is a big white girl, but that's all I got.
We have bitched and moaned about prices so lets talk a bit about customer service. I'm not talking skills during the visit, just simple communication, time management and scheduling. I recently woke up ready to try something new. It didn't go well, but really the results aren't all that unusual. I have seen girls in several states going back to before the internet and have rarely had such a hard time just getting through the door as I have in the QC over the last few years. I can't imagine how some of these girls pay their bills if others as having as hard a time as I am just getting them to take my money.
The story with this one starts over a year ago. I saw her ad and was somewhat intrigued. She responded to my text that first time rather quickly. No problem agreeing on a rate. I'm thinking things are going well so I ask where I should come to see her. She asks what time and I reply I can leave now. She says she needs to get ready. No problem there, I like shower fresh so I tell her to send me the address when she is ready. I'm thinking 30 or 45 minutes tops. Time goes by and I haven't heard from her so I text again. Still getting ready she says. This is like two hours later. I give up and hear nothing more from her. Fast forward a few months. I see her ad again and think why not? Again she responds quickly. We agree on rates and then start trying to nail down a time. Nothing works out so I say what about the next morning. Sure she says. I am up early she says. The next morning I text and nothing but crickets. This brings us to the later part of last week. I see her ad again. OK, I'm a dumb ass and think why not yet again? I text and get another quick reply. Unfortunately, she is only doing outcalls until her roommate leaves. Outcall doesn't work for me, so I ask when she will be free for incall. She says one hour. Not a big deal so I say ok. What are your rates for incall? Nothing for an hour. At the two hour point, I text again asking if she is available yet. Nothing until the next day. A full 30 hours later she responds she is available as if just a few minutes have passed. I'm not sure what this girl has going on in her life but by my count that is three strikes and I'm done.
I text her and get a fairly quick response saying she is available. This is after not getting a reply to a couple texts on different days in the past so I'm thinking maybe this time will work out. There are a few texts back and forth that lead to an agreement on rates. I ask where to come and she goes quite for a bit. I text again asking if she is still interested. More time goes by and finally she responds with she isn't home but will let me know when she is back. Seriously? Why not lead with that? Why say you are available and spend time going back and forth on details if you aren't really available? By this time I'm done and don't even reply. Six hours later I get a text saying she's home, what time do I want to see her as if I'm still waiting by the phone to hear from her. Yeah, not happening.
There was a third on the list who actually seemed like she wanted to meet and agreed to a reasonable donation. I declined because she was at the Relax Inn and for multiple reasons I don't go there. She said she could get a room at the motel 6 next door but that's no better for me so I politely declined. By this point I threw in the towel and went to visit an old friend who isn't a pro but isn't adverse to a little help with bills every now and then. So much for trying something new.
These girls today don't worry about being on time or any time frame they sort through who offers the most bingo no matter if you've agreed on a price if they hold out for 30 minutes or a hour some sucker will offer double what she's worth and you're shit out of luck. And I second the Relax inn any north Brady motels increase your chances of shit going down by 300%.
We have bitched and moaned about prices so lets talk a bit about customer service. I'm not talking skills during the visit, just simple communication, time management and scheduling. I recently woke up ready to try something new. It didn't go well, but really the results aren't all that unusual. I have seen girls in several states going back to before the internet and have rarely had such a hard time just getting through the door as I have in the QC over the last few years. I can't imagine how some of these girls pay their bills if others as having as hard a time as I am just getting them to take my money.
The story with this one starts over a year ago. I saw her ad and was somewhat intrigued. She responded to my text that first time rather quickly. No problem agreeing on a rate. I'm thinking things are going well so I ask where I should come to see her. She asks what time and I reply I can leave now. She says she needs to get ready. No problem there, I like shower fresh so I tell her to send me the address when she is ready. I'm thinking 30 or 45 minutes tops. Time goes by and I haven't heard from her so I text again. Still getting ready she says. This is like two hours later. I give up and hear nothing more from her. Fast forward a few months. I see her ad again and think why not? Again she responds quickly. We agree on rates and then start trying to nail down a time. Nothing works out so I say what about the next morning. Sure she says. I am up early she says. The next morning I text and nothing but crickets. This brings us to the later part of last week. I see her ad again. OK, I'm a dumb ass and think why not yet again? I text and get another quick reply. Unfortunately, she is only doing outcalls until her roommate leaves. Outcall doesn't work for me, so I ask when she will be free for incall. She says one hour. Not a big deal so I say ok. What are your rates for incall? Nothing for an hour. At the two hour point, I text again asking if she is available yet. Nothing until the next day. A full 30 hours later she responds she is available as if just a few minutes have passed. I'm not sure what this girl has going on in her life but by my count that is three strikes and I'm done.
I text her and get a fairly quick response saying she is available. This is after not getting a reply to a couple texts on different days in the past so I'm thinking maybe this time will work out. There are a few texts back and forth that lead to an agreement on rates. I ask where to come and she goes quite for a bit. I text again asking if she is still interested. More time goes by and finally she responds with she isn't home but will let me know when she is back. Seriously? Why not lead with that? Why say you are available and spend time going back and forth on details if you aren't really available? By this time I'm done and don't even reply. Six hours later I get a text saying she's home, what time do I want to see her as if I'm still waiting by the phone to hear from her. Yeah, not happening.
There was a third on the list who actually seemed like she wanted to meet and agreed to a reasonable donation. I declined because she was at the Relax Inn and for multiple reasons I don't go there. She said she could get a room at the motel 6 next door but that's no better for me so I politely declined. By this point I threw in the towel and went to visit an old friend who isn't a pro but isn't adverse to a little help with bills every now and then. So much for trying something new.
$50 bucks, LOL try skip girl with that, even the worse one. Pretty rare. Those tips mention, for most part, forget it, none work. You talk like your dealing with some really decent people, you are dealing with worse scum earth. Most skip girls are related to or know of or if not. Have associates. In on crimes that you hear about on news. I bet lot money on that, these skip girls well take most can possibly take you for an do a little in return for it as they can get away with, if can ripoff. An get away we with it they well. Your not deal. Nice decent people, your deal animals.
Even though picking are slim out here. I am not adverse to the old. Nope and either I leave or tell her to. Especially if the pictures are way off. I usually tell them if you are not the person in the pictures don't waste my time. I have walked away or shut the door in their face before. They need my money more than I need them.
First of all a word of cheer. You aren't a cheap guy. With just a few exceptions, in this town there isn't a big difference between a $150 quick visit and a $40-60 dollar exchange. Don't believe the cheap story, especially when you hear it from one of these young lovelies. If you need to categorize yourself, you are a high quantity consumer. Just like every other service or commodity, those who consume more get lower prices. It could be reasoned, you are buying wholesale because you use a lot of this particular service.
Being the community-minded and all around good guy that I am, allow me to offer up some tips reportedly used by other "high quantity/high volume" consumers:
1) Shop at the right time. Many of our friends in the service business are staying in overnight lodging. If they planned right, money for the next day would be carefully set aside by early evening. They don't. By 9:30 or 10:00 assuming they are awake, they start feeling the heat to cough up the next day's rent. Since a night at one of the North End notels is approximately $50, they will consider the offer. They will tell you it is 70 or 80 bucks, but you can check the price on one of the hotel sites.
2) Ask for special discounts. Periodically, services are advertised on special deals. Assume you deserve that deal no matter if it was posted months ago. They usually can't remember.
3) Use the old, I am in town for a while and only have xx bucks with me trick (pardon the pun). What can they say but no. Don't believe the "I will block you" story. The half life on one of these ladies phones is about three weeks. I believe they only block people when they pull some shady deal..
$50 bucks, LOL try skip girl with that, even the worse one. Pretty rare. Those tips mention, for most part, forget it, none work. You talk like your dealing with some really decent people, you are dealing with worse scum earth. Most skip girls are related to or know of or if not. Have associates. In on crimes that you hear about on news. I bet lot money on that, these skip girls well take most can possibly take you for an do a little in return for it as they can get away with, if can ripoff. An get away we with it they well. Your not deal. Nice decent people, your deal animals.
First of all a word of cheer. You aren't a cheap guy. With just a few exceptions, in this town there isn't a big difference between a $150 quick visit and a $40-60 dollar exchange. Don't believe the cheap story, especially when you hear it from one of these young lovelies. If you need to categorize yourself, you are a high quantity consumer. Just like every other service or commodity, those who consume more get lower prices. It could be reasoned, you are buying wholesale because you use a lot of this particular service.
Being the community-minded and all around good guy that I am, allow me to offer up some tips reportedly used by other "high quantity/high volume" consumers:
1) Shop at the right time. Many of our friends in the service business are staying in overnight lodging. If they planned right, money for the next day would be carefully set aside by early evening. They don't. By 9:30 or 10:00 assuming they are awake, they start feeling the heat to cough up the next day's rent. Since a night at one of the North End notels is approximately $50, they will consider the offer. They will tell you it is 70 or 80 bucks, but you can check the price on one of the hotel sites.
2) Ask for special discounts. Periodically, services are advertised on special deals. Assume you deserve that deal no matter if it was posted months ago. They usually can't remember.
3) Use the old, I am in town for a while and only have xx bucks with me trick (pardon the pun). What can they say but no. Don't believe the "I will block you" story. The half life on one of these ladies phones is about three weeks. I believe they only block people when they pull some shady deal.
4) Negotiate. Even if the post says 200 bucks, ask and then offer less using rule 3.
5) Expect to be turned down. The prices fluctuate based on what else these ladies have lined up. For instance, if one of their friends is coming over with a fresh batch of cookies (or a bottle of cheap brandy or dope), they may toss out a high price. If you take it, they'll make time. Otherwise, they'll just play out the day and worry about money in the morning (see rule 1).
6) Promise more next time. Hey it may not be 100 percent ethical, but if you enjoy the heck out of your time. Come through. Or, just call some day and say, I didn't forget and thought I would just meet up and hand you off some money. Ten dollars at an unexpected time carries a high emotional value in future negotiations.
Are these el-cheapo tactics? Maybe. But again, you are a high volume consumer and need to leverage your purchasing power. Why not use the tricks of high volume consumers in other industries?
Now repeat after me... 50 bucks is a lot of money. It's more than these ladies would earn in a half day of honest labor, easier and arguably, more fun.
Even though picking are slim out here. I am not adverse to the old. Nope and either I leave or tell her to. Especially if the pictures are way off. I usually tell them if you are not the person in the pictures don't waste my time. I have walked away or shut the door in their face before. They need my money more than I need them.
First of all a word of cheer. You aren't a cheap guy. With just a few exceptions, in this town there isn't a big difference between a $150 quick visit and a $40-60 dollar exchange. Don't believe the cheap story, especially when you hear it from one of these young lovelies. If you need to categorize yourself, you are a high quantity consumer. Just like every other service or commodity, those who consume more get lower prices. It could be reasoned, you are buying wholesale because you use a lot of this particular service.
Being the community-minded and all around good guy that I am, allow me to offer up some tips reportedly used by other "high quantity/high volume" consumers:
1) Shop at the right time. Many of our friends in the service business are staying in overnight lodging. If they planned right, money for the next day would be carefully set aside by early evening. They don't. By 9:30 or 10:00 assuming they are awake, they start feeling the heat to cough up the next day's rent. Since a night at one of the North End notels is approximately $50, they will consider the offer. They will tell you it is 70 or 80 bucks, but you can check the price on one of the hotel sites.
2) Ask for special discounts. Periodically, services are advertised on special deals. Assume you deserve that deal no matter if it was posted months ago. They usually can't remember.
More insanity. This provider is average at best. Her donation request is just the epitome of stupidity if guys are paying that. I am so turned off by that add I wouldn't even have desire to contact let alone negotiate.
She is the very one I had in mind writing my last post. I can name half a dozen areas where girls in the same league as her are asking 100-120 for a hh and most are willing to go lower. Much lower if you catch them at the right time. I have to assume she is either coming way down in negotiations or there are a lot of guys in the QC with money to burn.
Problem is there's always some rich marks that pay the smoking hot ones to say their name into a camera. I'd rather have them saying my name while bending them over instead of jacking off. Rich dumb asses are ruining this shit with ill be real fuckkkkin hard up the day I pay a girl 50 for pics to jack off to.
I don't get paying for porn or cam girls. There is literally more free porn on the web than any one person could watch in a lifetime. Why are people shelling out for it? Just one of the many questions I have about "modern" society.
More insanity. This provider is average at best. Her donation request is just the epitome of stupidity if guys are paying that. I am so turned off by that add I wouldn't even have desire to contact let alone negotiate.
Rents coming due again and I'd imagine that $1200 dollars is evaporating fast. I've seen quite a few girls on the Whisper app trying to sell fucking pics, when I asked about a Meetup one crazy ***** suggested I buy photos for $50! I'm hoping when these twats realize they are not going to make big money doing that when everyone else is a few will start selling some legit hot ass.
Problem is there's always some rich marks that pay the smoking hot ones to say their name into a camera. I'd rather have them saying my name while bending them over instead of jacking off. Rich dumb asses are ruining this shit with ill be real fuckkkkin hard up the day I pay a girl 50 for pics to jack off to.
I've always wondered what others are paying. Always wondering if I'm being a cheap guy thinking that $60-75 for 10-15 minutes is really that insulting. I know it all depends on a million different things like location, reputation, looks, skills, availability, etc. Why don't we ever make mention of what the actual cost is? For their time of course, nothing else. A simple copy and paste of an ad with actual cost would be so great for everyone (except the providers).
DavenPointed (BTW. Nice Name).
First of all a word of cheer. You aren't a cheap guy. With just a few exceptions, in this town there isn't a big difference between a $150 quick visit and a $40-60 dollar exchange. Don't believe the cheap story, especially when you hear it from one of these young lovelies. If you need to categorize yourself, you are a high quantity consumer. Just like every other service or commodity, those who consume more get lower prices. It could be reasoned, you are buying wholesale because you use a lot of this particular service.
Being the community-minded and all around good guy that I am, allow me to offer up some tips reportedly used by other "high quantity/high volume" consumers:
1) Shop at the right time. Many of our friends in the service business are staying in overnight lodging. If they planned right, money for the next day would be carefully set aside by early evening. They don't. By 9:30 or 10:00 assuming they are awake, they start feeling the heat to cough up the next day's rent. Since a night at one of the North End notels is approximately $50, they will consider the offer. They will tell you it is 70 or 80 bucks, but you can check the price on one of the hotel sites.
2) Ask for special discounts. Periodically, services are advertised on special deals. Assume you deserve that deal no matter if it was posted months ago. They usually can't remember.
3) Use the old, I am in town for a while and only have xx bucks with me trick (pardon the pun). What can they say but no. Don't believe the "I will block you" story. The half life on one of these ladies phones is about three weeks. I believe they only block people when they pull some shady deal.
4) Negotiate. Even if the post says 200 bucks, ask and then offer less using rule 3.
5) Expect to be turned down. The prices fluctuate based on what else these ladies have lined up. For instance, if one of their friends is coming over with a fresh batch of cookies (or a bottle of cheap brandy or dope), they may toss out a high price. If you take it, they'll make time. Otherwise, they'll just play out the day and worry about money in the morning (see rule 1).
6) Promise more next time. Hey it may not be 100 percent ethical, but if you enjoy the heck out of your time. Come through. Or, just call some day and say, I didn't forget and thought I would just meet up and hand you off some money. Ten dollars at an unexpected time carries a high emotional value in future negotiations.
Are these el-cheapo tactics? Maybe. But again, you are a high volume consumer and need to leverage your purchasing power. Why not use the tricks of high volume consumers in other industries?
Now repeat after me... 50 bucks is a lot of money. It's more than these ladies would earn in a half day of honest labor, easier and arguably, more fun.
I'm going vent for a moment. Just texted a STG and inquired about her donation. She quoted 100 qv 160 hhr and 320 hr. What is it with these average looking STG girls that are somewhat Young asking for 300 plus an hour? You can get a relatively higher end escort for that amount in some areas. The unemployment rate due to the virus is nearing The Great Depression levels. Some of these young ladies might want to rethink their donation structure. I'm certainly not opposed to paying that. But not for an average looking STG girl. I hope the rest of you aren't encouraging this by paying these rates. This should be a buyer's market right now with the service industry ground to a halt. Perhaps soon we might see bartenders and waitresses turn to the oldest profession in the book.
Rents coming due again and I'd imagine that $1200 dollars is evaporating fast. I've seen quite a few girls on the Whisper app trying to sell fucking pics, when I asked about a Meetup one crazy ***** suggested I buy photos for $50! I'm hoping when these twats realize they are not going to make big money doing that when everyone else is a few will start selling some legit hot ass.