Strip Club Reports

[Chimil Detin]

I think you are way overthinking it.

Most of these clubs are not nice, at all. Update them, make them classy. The money will follow.

In Indianapolis, no, most aren't. In fact, all aren't. You find more upscale clubs in Chicago, Detroit & elsewhere and these ideas would be better suited for those places. They just happened to pop up in this forum.

However, spend too much on updating them and making them nice and Gen Z can't afford them.

This was all covered, ya know, um, in the post. I get it, though, reading is hard.

[Radarorielly]

I think you are way overthinking it.

Most of these clubs are not nice, at all. Update them, make them classy. The money will follow.

There's room for innovation in the strip club business, especially since Gen Z's taste for sexuality and consumer consumption seems very different than those of generations before it, as one might expect after what amounts to a complete upheaval in how we communicate over the last 20 years.

A lot of Gen Z trends go against the industry. First off, they're all broke, but that's a larger issue. They're not as big on relationships, so clubs relying on the "married man" market might become more fraught. They don't like creepy middle men intervening with sexuality, so the whole idea of a cut of every dance and room going to some rich club owner someplace also is unsavory.

Gen Z does love its tech, though, so I wonder if adding some technology in lieu of it taking the place of bouncers and servers, who would still be there but less visible, might not hurt. Dare I even say some AI. Gamify it.

Have a touchscreen at the front of the club. Allow customers to "login" with their phone number at the touchscreen. When they come in, they enter their preferences and the touchscreen recommends some dancers for them, or let customers scroll through pictures or descriptions of who's on shift. If they want, they can push a button and the dancer will come to the touchscreen to meet them (give the dancer an option to list some excuse if they don't want to see a particular customer). If the dancer is busy, have the system send a text message when she's free.

On subsequent visits, it'll remember a person's preferences by phone number and recommend similar dancers or ones they've seen in the past. It could even prompt customers to rate their experience after each dance with a 1-10 text, both to help get a feel for customer preference and to evaluate dance talent.

Have a favorite dancer? Sign up for a text alert to know when she's working.

As long as you're tracking, add a loyalty program: Every 10th dance is free. Get a free dance on your birthday. Have it so you can text to get a drink delivered to you or your dancer, too.

[TheCoach26]

A lot of folks don't speak much about it but if you're into thicker girls (as in thighs and buttocks), I'd recommend the sunset strip. Open 10:30-3, if you get there at 10:30/11 you may even be able to get through without paying a cover. $25 per song for private dances but they play the whole song. Drinks are typical strip club prices for a more urban environment (and the dangerous thing is, if you're really enjoying yourself you can just open a tab and put your lapdances on your card. I did that once. Enjoyed the time, but regretted the sheer amount of money spent LOL) I moved here in July and for a little while I was looking for all of the ass in Indianapolis and I swear to god its ALL there. Predominantly black with a few white girls sprinkled in. I hooked up with one after her shift one night, great time.

I agree. The Sunset is great! I fell in love with a stunning young lady last time I was there and completely emptied my wallet. That being said, I have never had any extras there, but plenty of high mileage private dances. They also have excellent food. My only complaint with the Sunset is their hours. I wished they opened earlier as 10:30 is late for me these days and the club really doesn't get hopping until about 1 am.

[Calloway71]

Going to be in your town in a few weeks for a training seminar and would like to know if there are any clubs worth visiting when I'm in town. I'll be staying in the north west area near Eagle Creek park and don't want to travel more then 20-30 minutes from that area. Thanks for any help you can give and if you are ever in the Detroit area reach out and I'll try to return the help.

A lot of folks don't speak much about it but if you're into thicker girls (as in thighs and buttocks), I'd recommend the sunset strip. Open 10:30-3, if you get there at 10:30/11 you may even be able to get through without paying a cover. $25 per song for private dances but they play the whole song. Drinks are typical strip club prices for a more urban environment (and the dangerous thing is, if you're really enjoying yourself you can just open a tab and put your lapdances on your card. I did that once. Enjoyed the time, but regretted the sheer amount of money spent LOL) I moved here in July and for a little while I was looking for all of the ass in Indianapolis and I swear to god its ALL there. Predominantly black with a few white girls sprinkled in. I hooked up with one after her shift one night, great time.

[Theo Guderian]

I'll be staying in the north west area near Eagle Creek park and don't want to travel more then 20-30 minutes from that area.

Depends on what you're looking for, and what day / time of day you're heading out. You can also pretty much hit any club in town within 30 if you're not driving through rush hour. Quick hits on a couple. Rio- Daytime, more action, hit or miss on looks. Brad's Brass Flamingo- better looking, hit or miss on attitude (aren't they all though? PTs, I've been up and down on this place for years. Sometimes I like the crew that's there and visit regularly, other times I sit down and ask myself "Why the F**K am I here?" Recent discussions on what clubs are still open just below and other ones I don't visit.

[Bigg2003]

Going to be in your town in a few weeks for a training seminar and would like to know if there are any clubs worth visiting when I'm in town. I'll be staying in the north west area near Eagle Creek park and don't want to travel more then 20-30 minutes from that area. Thanks for any help you can give and if you are ever in the Detroit area reach out and I'll try to return the help.

If you want high mileage with mostly decent girls, Club Rio is your best bet. If you want hot girls with limited action, go to Dancers.

[Sixguns]

Going to be in your town in a few weeks for a training seminar and would like to know if there are any clubs worth visiting when I'm in town. I'll be staying in the north west area near Eagle Creek park and don't want to travel more then 20-30 minutes from that area. Thanks for any help you can give and if you are ever in the Detroit area reach out and I'll try to return the help.

[Roy Cat]

Paradise is open, Silk is back open. Pure Passion East, on Post Rd and don't forget about Patty's and Sunset Strip.

Thanks. Adding those to the eight I listed brings the total number of clubs open up to thirteen. Clubs which have closed over the last twelve years that I know of are Sassy Kats, Club Zeus, Lenny's, Wild Cheri, Babes West, Club Venus and now Onyx. So, seven of the 20 clubs open twelve years ago are now closed. There does seem to be a definite decline in the local customer base which has resulted in so many closing. I also see a decline in the number of customers in some of the remaining ones so more are likely to close in the future. It is likely to be one of the five you listed but could be one of the Pendleton Pike clubs. Three strip clubs are too many for just that part of town.

[Mr Popular]

I just became aware that Club Onyx on the south side has closed. It was raided by police and then lost its alcohol license. I did a little googling and found that it had the usual problems of a poorly run strip club. It was run in a way that it attracted a clientele that was involved in shootings, drugs and prostitution. I had not been there for years since before the Covid epidemic back when it was Classy Chassy. There is a paucity of strip clubs on the far south side now and there should be room for one in that location. You would have to have the right ownership and management team in place, though.

The strip clubs here I'm aware of that are still open are Jaguars, Jiggles, PT's, Brad's, Red Garter, Dancers, The Pony and Club Rio. That's only eight now. Silk may or not still be open. The last time I stopped by it was closed. I've seen cars in the parking lot of Paradise Cove while driving by so they may still be open. Am I missing any?

Paradise is open, Silk is back open. Pure Passion East, on Post Rd and don't forget about Patty's and Sunset Strip.

[Roy Cat]

I just became aware that Club Onyx on the south side has closed. It was raided by police and then lost its alcohol license. I did a little googling and found that it had the usual problems of a poorly run strip club. It was run in a way that it attracted a clientele that was involved in shootings, drugs and prostitution. I had not been there for years since before the Covid epidemic back when it was Classy Chassy. There is a paucity of strip clubs on the far south side now and there should be room for one in that location. You would have to have the right ownership and management team in place, though.

The strip clubs here I'm aware of that are still open are Jaguars, Jiggles, PT's, Brad's, Red Garter, Dancers, The Pony and Club Rio. That's only eight now. Silk may or not still be open. The last time I stopped by it was closed. I've seen cars in the parking lot of Paradise Cove while driving by so they may still be open. Am I missing any?

[Chimil Detin]

I see little experimentation in the strip club industry where clubs try something new to see if it might work better. There is usually a sameness to the local strip club experience. Some local clubs let the girls charge what they want. The results are always bad and cause a drop in customers but there is high manager turn over in local clubs so a new manager might not know when something was tried and didn't work before. The local clubs really don't make good use of any new technology. A few local clubs put their roster for the night on their twitter feed and a few have electronic boards that show the dancers currently in the club. There is also little market segmenting, where some clubs try to target a specific audience. It's not like the restaurant industry where there is a large variety of restaurants.

There's room for innovation in the strip club business, especially since Gen Z's taste for sexuality and consumer consumption seems very different than those of generations before it, as one might expect after what amounts to a complete upheaval in how we communicate over the last 20 years.

A lot of Gen Z trends go against the industry. First off, they're all broke, but that's a larger issue. They're not as big on relationships, so clubs relying on the "married man" market might become more fraught. They don't like creepy middle men intervening with sexuality, so the whole idea of a cut of every dance and room going to some rich club owner someplace also is unsavory.

Gen Z does love its tech, though, so I wonder if adding some technology in lieu of it taking the place of bouncers and servers, who would still be there but less visible, might not hurt. Dare I even say some AI. Gamify it.

Have a touchscreen at the front of the club. Allow customers to "login" with their phone number at the touchscreen. When they come in, they enter their preferences and the touchscreen recommends some dancers for them, or let customers scroll through pictures or descriptions of who's on shift. If they want, they can push a button and the dancer will come to the touchscreen to meet them (give the dancer an option to list some excuse if they don't want to see a particular customer). If the dancer is busy, have the system send a text message when she's free.

On subsequent visits, it'll remember a person's preferences by phone number and recommend similar dancers or ones they've seen in the past. It could even prompt customers to rate their experience after each dance with a 1-10 text, both to help get a feel for customer preference and to evaluate dance talent.

Have a favorite dancer? Sign up for a text alert to know when she's working.

As long as you're tracking, add a loyalty program: Every 10th dance is free. Get a free dance on your birthday. Have it so you can text to get a drink delivered to you or your dancer, too.

Give an option to text a tip to your favorite dancer even when you're not at the club. Give the dancers the chance to send personal messages of thanks back through the system so they can keep their personal contact info hidden.

Someone smart could do it. They'd want to try it someplace with a much more upscale club culture than Indy, though. LOL.

I've seen clubs try and reach out to Gen Z by offering things like video game pods in the club and whatnot, but I feel like that defeats the purpose of going to a club. There are other ways tech could happen. Someone just has to try it.

[Roy Cat]

You also forget that these girls can often make more money at home, remain virtually anonymous, and have total control over their schedule. While your points are valid, I know several ladies making 10-15 K+ every month without needing to rub all over some random guy.

That's true. Also, some of the girls who might have been strippers in the past may be out on sugar daddy sites now. High spending customers, sometimes called "whales", seem to be less common in clubs than in the past.

I see little experimentation in the strip club industry where clubs try something new to see if it might work better. There is usually a sameness to the local strip club experience. Some local clubs let the girls charge what they want. The results are always bad and cause a drop in customers but there is high manager turn over in local clubs so a new manager might not know when something was tried and didn't work before. The local clubs really don't make good use of any new technology. A few local clubs put their roster for the night on their twitter feed and a few have electronic boards that show the dancers currently in the club. There is also little market segmenting, where some clubs try to target a specific audience. It's not like the restaurant industry where there is a large variety of restaurants.

[Chimil Detin]

If that's indeed the case, then why is the Kokomo HH message board here so dead?

RL.

I went to the Hip Hugger once like eight years ago.

It's not exactly on the way to anything, so I was going about an hour out of my way to get there.

It was not worth the extra effort. Lappers just happened out in the open on one side. They had this weird habit of applauding at the end of each girl's stage set.

There were maybe two girls I thought were worthy of tipping with the rest not so much. If Indianapolis talent is a healthy step down, if not two, from Chicago & Detroit's, then the Hugger's was a full step further. The best looking girl was sitting at a table by herself the whole time until someone came with her dinner delivery in a Styrofoam container, at which point, she just sat and ate her dinner out of the container with a plastic fork like it was no big deal.

Nope, too townie for me, thanks, and that's coming from a guy who's been to the clubs in the bumpkin parts of Wisconsin.

[RomeoLust]

I have it on good authority biz is booming north on US31 about 100 kilometers.

If that's indeed the case, then why is the Kokomo HH message board here so dead?

RL.

[Bigg2003]

Thing is, it's the being rubbed upon thing that's the best part.

I can't bring myself to pay for anything online. Yeah, it's *a little* more personal, but why bother when there's so much porn for free? Why should I make masturbating more expensive?

I'll spend for the in-person experience, though. It's one thing to see great tits. It's another thing to get to put your hands on them, and it's another thing altogether if she's willing to put other people's body parts between them.

I totally agree, but it's sadly all about what they can get others to pay for and I can't blame them.