Massage Parlor Reports

[Golden3]

This morning, I called Winton Rd. And got no answer. I don't know what the story was, and I didn't go there to check it out.

I called Springfield Pike and got an answer, so I went there. The place isn't much to look at. The parlor is in a mostly vacant strip mall. In fact, it may be the only business there. The premises are rather bare. However, Mary, the masseuse, is reasonably attractive and very friendly, so I am glad that I went there.

Driving to my next destination (and I do have a life outside the hobby), I passed by 1718 East Galbraith. It seems to me that I had read that it had re-opened under new management, and, indeed, the "Massage" sign was lit up. However, by then, I was no longer interested, so I am just passing the information along FWIW.

[LiamBrennan]

Said the police claimed there was a bomb threat to clear the spa (although ironically not the whole plaza) and planted the cameras at that point.

Believe it or not, Vincent is actually right this time. The f-ing cops staged a bomb threat to clear the place. That's ridiculous. I hope that is somehow grounds for some or all of these guys to "get off" (pun intended). Many of these johns have more money than god, so they can hire the best criminal defense attorneys. Ri-fuckin-ridiculous, when there are kidnappers walking the street, and drugs (not just ganja, real drugs) everywhere, illegal immigrants, crazy high crime rates in Florida, and the cops have nothing better to do than set up this sting for mutually consensual sex for pay? Rigoddamndiculous.

[ThisOnesOnMe]

I was there about a month ago and there was a truck hanging out everywhere from the parking lot, to the construction site across the street to the places next door to the complexes on both sides. 1 of the guys is a cop I recognized from work, he comes in a lot. I've decided to stay away from there. Too much heat and they offer way too much to get caught up in.

Can confirm that as I saw a marked vehicle in the lot across the street. He's tucked back off the road but it's quite obvious what he's looking at. Would avoid.

[Cincinnati72]

It's being pushed all over the country to support the fake crisis at the border. You think it's just bad luck that all the AMP around here are being busted? Cmon dude.

I don't want to get into a political argument, but the number of illegal immigrants at AMP's in Ohio (Or Chinese restaurants for that matter) is nowhere near the concentration of illegals along the border. I'm guessing there are a few illegals that have given us massages but for the most part, a much higher concentration in the border states. My guess is the police here are doing what has been said. Scare tactics that will plane out eventually. If there is an illegal activity, and there is a stigma of "immoral" around that activity, there is going to be an outcry to "do something about it".

People feel warm and cozy when they believe their tax dollars are being well spent and see lots of arrests.

[Pictraders69]

You paid for the massage service but not the extras you get, to me you didn't paid her to give you the sexual favor so it's not prostitution. It's more like you and her were sexual attracted to each other and things just happened. Here is my question, I own a bar for a long time, a hot chick came in and sat on the bar. We talked for most of the night, she decided to stay and wait for me to get off work, I gave her shots after we closed. We end up had sex in my office. Now is this considered prostitution since I gave her shots? Or she just liked my personality and decided to have little fun with me? If I get caught, I might get charged for servings after hours, but I doubt I will be charged for paying a prostitue. Since AMPs are in the hot seat lately, LEO's are trying to get them any which way they can. Things may be legal in ours eyes might still be illegal with uncle LEO. Anyway everyone stay safe!

I don't think it makes much difference whether the favors are provided as a result of mutual attraction, at a bar, or as an appreciative gratuity, after a relaxing massage. The end result is much the same, if someone in authority wants to interrupt the activity. If someone is busted, stopped or questioned before, during or after an event, even if an actual charge isn't filed, the intimidation and potential threat of arrest would frighten and devastate most participants, regardless of which side of the table they were on. That threat in itself is likely to cause a huge negative impact in the massage business (at least for a while), and is (or should be) in the back of everyone's mind when we read about how far, and how much money is being spent to scare, intimidate, and threaten warrants for misdemeanor or minor felony charges. If trafficking is the real target of their investigations, why isn't that money and attention directed to the airport customs checkpoints, as these alleged thousands of unsuspecting Chinese / Korean women are being brought by escorts into this country and then forced into indentured servitude after their arrival. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, or that it shouldn't be stopped if and when it does, but I do believe that the numbers are grossly exaggerated or it would be much easier to recognize and stop the real traffickers at the border, rather than trying to "fix" the problem by intimidating and humiliating discreet providers and their clients. When high profile Florida participants (names intentionally omitted) are caught in their nets, it's just another opportunity for the 'do-gooders' to exploit all victims (male and female) and draw attention (and more funding) to themselves to further their own agendas. What easier assignment can a detective have than to sit in a car to see who comes and goes, or watch hours of video of what was thought to be a private, non violent event. I wonder how many other much more serious, violent crimes were committed during the weeks, and hundreds of hours that the Florida investigation was going on?

[Vinnie Kramer]

Said the police claimed there was a bomb threat to clear the spa (although ironically not the whole plaza) and planted the cameras at that point.

So how was an after hours break in going to work if the girls lived there? Wasn't evidence that the girls lived here the reason they suspected human trafficking?

[Golden3]

Robert Kraft was busted for patronizing an AMP in Florida, but I haven't seen that customers of the AMPs here have been arrested. Is it just that they are not mentioned because they are not celebrities, or has LEO here not bothered with them?

[Ronnie0927]

I think it's more along the southern border.

It's being pushed all over the country to support the fake crisis at the border. You think it's just bad luck that all the AMP around here are being busted? Cmon dude.

[LiamBrennan]

You paid for the massage service but not the extras you get, to me you didn't paid her to give you the sexual favor so it's not prostitution. It's more like you and her were sexual attracted to each other and things just happened. Here is my question, I own a bar for a long time, a hot chick came in and sat on the bar. We talked for most of the night, she decided to stay and wait for me to get off work, I gave her shots after we closed. We end up had sex in my office. Now is this considered prostitution since I gave her shots? Or she just liked my personality and decided to have little fun with me? If I get caught, I might get charged for servings after hours, but I doubt I will be charged for paying a prostitue. Since AMPs are in the hot seat lately, LEO's are trying to get them any which way they can. Things may be legal in ours eyes might still be illegal with uncle LEO. Anyway everyone stay safe!

I don't know about that. If I were the prosecutor, I would argue that the payment for the "favor" was built into the massage price you paid, and when you failed to stop the "favor," you accepted and consummated the transaction. The proof is in accepting the favor and failing to stop it. If nothing else, that is a situation you certainly don't want to find yourself in. Hey, I'm a huge favor of AMPs but just like every other form of hobbying, there is an inherent risk in it, and anyone who participates accepts that risk. That's one of the reasons this board is so great. It minimizes any such risk of having a problem with the girls discussed on the board!

[BiGDo6]

She is beautiful, sexy but no kissing, and few other restrictions. She was a dancer so has that move. Nuru was good, Absolutely Legit. She wants big tip to do few extras.

Please share her location and other pertinent details via PM.

Thanks, Dog.

[Resipsaloquito]

The fourth amendment protects individuals, and not locations.

Do you think the spa owners in Florida just welcomed the cops in to install the cameras that were used during the bust? Go read their probable cause affidavit -- "A judge signed off on a search warrant for electronic surveillance. " Then, they observed remotely for five days.

A judge signs off on the order, the cops break in after hours to do the install. Why do you think police departments hire lockpickers? And. KY has a detective on their SWAT team in Boone County who taught lockpicking once a month at a non-profit in Queensgate.

Nobody has to believe me -- this is the internet and all -- but, sadly, I am super familiar with these techniques from my time as a public defender in a different state.

MM.

So how was an after hours break in going to work if the girls lived there? Wasn't evidence that the girls lived here the reason they suspected human trafficking?

[HandaMan]

That's an interesting point. Here's a good question for everyone in the room, say you get a massage and pay the standard charge for it, they give you the massage and you get extras and you don't tip at all, is that considered prostitution? I know it is a total dick move, but you wouldn't have paid for the extras. Just looking for some input on that.

This situation came up a while back for me. I paid with the $60 I had in my wallet and I always put the tip money in my pocket and not a dollar more than what I plan to spend. Well when I went in, I got a lot more than just a handjob, more like I sprayed her titties down after taking it out of her tiny hole. Apparently when I took my keys out of my pocket as I was getting into the car at home, the cash fell out. Luckily I found it in my garage, but I definitely felt guilty about not giving her the cash then. I told her I would be back and as I came back, there was a car pulled over in the same lot as the AMP. I didn't pay for the sex, so would that be prostitution?

You paid for the massage service but not the extras you get, to me you didn't paid her to give you the sexual favor so it's not prostitution. It's more like you and her were sexual attracted to each other and things just happened. Here is my question, I own a bar for a long time, a hot chick came in and sat on the bar. We talked for most of the night, she decided to stay and wait for me to get off work, I gave her shots after we closed. We end up had sex in my office. Now is this considered prostitution since I gave her shots? Or she just liked my personality and decided to have little fun with me? If I get caught, I might get charged for servings after hours, but I doubt I will be charged for paying a prostitue. Since AMPs are in the hot seat lately, LEO's are trying to get them any which way they can. Things may be legal in ours eyes might still be illegal with uncle LEO. Anyway everyone stay safe!

[MassageGoer]

That's an interesting point. Here's a good question for everyone in the room, say you get a massage and pay the standard charge for it, they give you the massage and you get extras and you don't tip at all, is that considered prostitution? I know it is a total dick move, but you wouldn't have paid for the extras. Just looking for some input on that.

This situation came up a while back for me. I paid with the $60 I had in my wallet and I always put the tip money in my pocket and not a dollar more than what I plan to spend. Well when I went in, I got a lot more than just a handjob, more like I sprayed her titties down after taking it out of her tiny hole. Apparently when I took my keys out of my pocket as I was getting into the car at home, the cash fell out. Luckily I found it in my garage, but I definitely felt guilty about not giving her the cash then. I told her I would be back and as I came back, there was a car pulled over in the same lot as the AMP. I didn't pay for the sex, so would that be prostitution?

I read about half of the indictment, and there was nowhere I saw any of the girls offering sex in exchange for money. And hopefully nobody said "here's $40 for the handjob you gave me. " If a girl likes a guy and gives him a handy at the end of his massage, and the guy thinks she gave a good massage and tips her, I don't see how that's prostitution.

[MassageGoer]

I was there about a month ago and there was a truck hanging out everywhere from the parking lot, to the construction site across the street to the places next door to the complexes on both sides. 1 of the guys is a cop I recognized from work, he comes in a lot. I've decided to stay away from there. Too much heat and they offer way too much to get caught up in.

Went to Colerain last week and there was a cop sitting across in that new construction area. Passed.

I would agree it's an agenda. I would bet that they won't touch the man cave. I'd trade that for all the AMP's back. LOL.

[Cincinnati72]

It's apparent that this government is looking for all the "sex trafficking" and "illegal immigrant" charges they can get filed to pad their agenda stats. Facepalm.

I think it's more along the southern border.