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10-01-11 08:08 #2000
Posts: 497Prudent Mongering Practices
Originally Posted by MrNails [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Giani [View Original Post]
Certainly there is someone here that has experienced a sting and / or impoundment in their past, but chooses not to speak up. Perhaps it is concern that other members are just going to rub salt in the wound confirming how badly they screwed up. We can be rather tough sometimes on some of the guys here both newbies and seniors alike.
It might be wise though if someone does decide to speak up about such an incident, state the facts but do not be so specific about location, date, and time especially if your bad luck was local and recent. We would not want the "headline seekers" that spend way too much time reading here rather than fighting crime to make a connection between a real life identity and someone's handle that is used here to share fantasy stories.
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10-01-11 07:00 #1999
Posts: 869Research says: They can and DO impound mongers' cars.
So the evidence is in (thanks MrNails). Cincinnati's finest are INDEED concentrating on titillating the public with their prowess: busting non-violent offenders of the crime of engaging in a consensual business transaction and impounding their cars. Sheesh. And this at a time that street gun play continues to rage in Cincinnati's inner city? The Puritans win over those who believe that the REAL problem is violent crime, not limited non-violent 'offences'. Still, we have yet to hear from anyone on this board who has personal experience impoundment due to mongering (maybe because forum participants are aware of prudent mongering practices?)
Lady L: You are proven correct. Your experience in OTR is believable. May we ask if you personally experienced or witnessed the impoundment of a client's car? (How did that go down?) It is so unbelievable that a seriously focused LE would let the street shooters slide while they make headlines busting non-violent trade.I am currently wiping that egg from my face.
May I (trying to salvage something from my previous post.) mention that my cautions about not getting busted in a sting still hold:
1) Don't pick up anyone who doesn't get right into the car.
2) Leave the pickup zone immediately, be sure you are not being followed.
3) Do not mention any act for any amount until you have performed the LE test (I. E, touching, feeling) (Remember, you only thought you knew the woman, and were giving her a ride.
BTW, the article confirms that LE is concentrating on headline-seeking work in PH and LPH for their headlines rather than fighting violent crime, even in these days of diminished LE resources.
Originally Posted by MrNails [View Original Post]
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09-30-11 19:21 #1998
Posts: 287Impounding sbject
Hope I did this right.
CINCINNATI. Cincinnati police said they arrested 19 people in a prostitution sting Wednesday.
Police said the 18 men and one woman were arrested during the operation in Price Hill and Lower Price Hill by officers from the Vice Control Section.
The 18 men were charged with soliciting and / or loitering to solicit prostitution. The one woman arrested was charged with obstructing official business. All of the charges are misdemeanors.
Police said they also impounded 10 vehicles under the ordinance that imposes a civil fine for those charged with soliciting.
Read more:
http://www.wlwt.com/news/23635883/de...#ixzz1ZTs3RONN
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09-30-11 10:31 #1997
Posts: 126Could be unprejudiced advice.
Originally Posted by Giani [View Original Post]
Them girls got to get paid also.
I have seen many cars impounded and the client arrested
I grew up OTR
Weather or not the man got his car back I don't know.
I just know it was taken at the time of arrest.
Kisses LL
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09-30-11 10:25 #1996
Posts: 126Vechicle seizure
Originally Posted by Varoom [View Original Post]
A conversation I think any one would want to have with the wife.
Kisses LL
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09-30-11 09:03 #1995
Posts: 649The catch 22 here is
Originally Posted by IloveHEs [View Original Post]
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09-30-11 08:53 #1994
Posts: 134Nope
You will not have your car impounded simply for mongering. The key phrase in the law is the "and / or". You have to have drugs in the car to have it impounded, the mongering would be the reason for the stop, and there would have to be drugs present for the impoundment. Seniors can PM me with any questions they have about impoundment since I used to do it for a living.
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09-30-11 06:46 #1993
Posts: 869My LE-dar: Varoom is right. Any examples of impounded monger cars in Cincy?
This discussion has taken an interesting turn. We have an advertising provider who cautions us against cruising the streets 'cause they will take your car? Could be unprejudiced advice. Or not. If you cruise and pick up an SW at one tenth the cost, it cuts into the escort business.
I have several times heard reports that LE CAN impound your car (LE makes this threat often since fear is a major force against mongering) , but have never heard of a car actually impounded on the sole count of mongering. Anyone, anyone? Perhaps it has happened, but I would think the action would have been reported on this forum (one of the valuable functions of our forum).
Even IF cars have been impounded. Having your car impounded is extremely unlikely if you follow the rules. (I posted a set of 13 rules years ago-Jackson has summarized them so we don't keep repeating ourselves.) BUT, the key rules to avoid LE bust:
1) Do NOT negotiate thru the window. If she doesn't jump right in, bye, bye. Stinging females do NOT get in the car. (You HAVE scoped out the area for lurking LE, right?)
2) Leave the pickup area immediately, watch your rear view mirror.
3) Do NOT discuss "What for how much?" until you have left the hot zone and have innocently asked if she minds a touch to her breast or crotch (NO mention of $).
I do not think that I am wrong in believing that you can be busted only for ACTUALLY offering money for sex? So don't do that until you are well clear of surveillance, etc.
Safe mongering.
Originally Posted by Ppe#1 [View Original Post]
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09-30-11 06:46 #1992
Posts: 41Seizure
Originally Posted by Ppe#1 [View Original Post]
The minimum civil fine is $500. 00. The fine increases as it becomes delinquent or goes to collections.
Additionally, Section 759-5 (a) , (be) , and (see) ("Impoundment of Motor Vehicles Used to Facilitate Officer Evasion, Prostitution or Drug Related Crimes") says.
(a) In addition to the imposition of a civil fine, a police officer may impound and cause to be towed any motor vehicle when the officer has probable cause to believe that the motor vehicle was used to facilitate the commission or attempted commission of a crime involving failure to comply with the order or signal of a police officer, sexual activity for hire, and / or a crime involving the possession, delivery, transportation, purchase or sale of illegal drugs
(be) Upon impounding the vehicle, the police officer shall provide by hand delivery to any present owner or person in control of the vehicle notice of the fact of the impoundment, notice of a civil offense and civil fine, the location of the city impound lot and the right to post a cash bond.
(see) If the vehicle owner is unavailable to receive such notice, then the police officer or agent of the city police department shall provide notice to all owner (s) of the vehicle at addresses set forth in the vehicle registration within three business days of the date of impoundment. The notice shall include the fact of the impoundment, notice of a civil offense and civil fine, the location of the city impound lot and the right to post a cash bond.
If you are unsuccesful in getting your car released, post a bond, etc, then Section 759-15, entitled "Sales of Impounded Vehicles" provides that,"Vehicles impounded pursuant to this Chapter shall be subject to sale, provided that the city may not begin proceedings to sell the vehicle when the city is notified by the owner of the impounded vehicle that the violation of §759-3 or § 759-4 is under pending appeal."
I did not find anything saying there is a straight up forfeiture of a monger's car. But it sure seems like your car and you can be through a nightmare under the wrong circumstances.
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09-30-11 06:09 #1991
Posts: 41Seizure
Originally Posted by Varoom [View Original Post]
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09-29-11 23:56 #1990
Posts: 649Seizure
Originally Posted by Lane Myer71 [View Original Post]
Not to turn this into the legal advice section, but. ORC 2907. 24: Soliciting para (D) states in part that they SHALL (meaning MUST) , suspend your DL for the use of a motor vehicle while soliciting. It says nothing about seizure of the vehicle. This has been used in other states, and it could be used in OH if there would be a local ordinance that states that they can seize a vehicle for such offense; not sure if Cincy has such an ordinance but it is not so stated in ORC that I could find. The US Supreme Court has sanctioned the seizure of vehicles that were used in the committing of a crime, so it is legally possible but I have not personally heard of this locally, if it has happened.
ORC 2907. 24, para (D) in part sates:
"used a motor vehicle (to commit the crime of Soliciting) , the court, in addition to or independent of all other penalties imposed for the violation, shall impose upon the offender a class six suspension of the person's driver's license.
Pretty dang funny about "not being able to justify a monger mobile to the wife". I would love to be a fly on the wall the day that you have that conversation. LMAO Lets see honey, Lately I've been out trolling for some street snatch and was thinking that just maybe we should get an old beater just in case Uncle catches me in the act. Wifey: Oh sure Dear, I completely concur, you need that beater. Purchase approved.
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09-29-11 21:00 #1989
Posts: 126Where to hang out
Originally Posted by Cincyguymd [View Original Post]
Just be safe
And oh they will take your car.
Kisses LL
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09-29-11 20:02 #1988
Posts: 191Originally Posted by Cincyguymd [View Original Post]
Good luck
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09-29-11 16:31 #1987
Posts: 54Giani.
Gentlemen,
I find it amusing at the least, but understandably so. I am a senior member, but have spent majority of my time in the Dayton / Springfield area. Wanted some quick insight on the local street action and wanted to make the most of my visit. I sincerely hope that if a fellow senior member wanted to scope out the northern areas of ohio. They would be given the same accommodations. I did get a good laugh though. NO, I am not the notorious sex-sting doctor. You made my day on that one.
Guy's I will take the cruise and give you my best if the results are any good. Those members that feel up to sharing any bit of information, well it would be much appreciated and I would like to think pretty darn hospitable of you. It surely would be worth the return favor if you ever got up to the Dayton area. Take care guys.
Originally Posted by Giani [View Original Post]
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09-29-11 09:02 #1986
Posts: 18Christine
New to mongering, but I have been reading reports and the Rules and used them to pick up Christine in the area of Reading and MLK area. She's a very skinny WSW with bleached blonde hair and tiny tits. Think her hair used to be more reddish. I didn't have a raincoat so she helped to tug out my problem. Sorry report isn't longer. Thinking of using her for lip service in the future if I have supplies, but am wondering if anyone else has experience with her. I'm sure some of the seniors remember being a petrified noob.
I'm driving a new car, can't justify a monger mobile to the wife. Is it true that cinci take the cars of mongers that are caught? There is the real fear factor for me.
Stay Safe.