Thread: Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"
+
Add Report
Results 4,516 to 4,530 of 15287
-
04-19-19 06:29 #10772
Posts: 99Well put, Ceenote.
Originally Posted by Ceenote [View Original Post]
-
04-18-19 18:03 #10771
Posts: 497Silky
Originally Posted by CockNumb [View Original Post]Originally Posted by CockNumb [View Original Post]Originally Posted by NineIncher [View Original Post]Originally Posted by CockNumb [View Original Post]
-
04-18-19 12:53 #10770
Posts: 398Silky.
Originally Posted by NineIncher [View Original Post]
-
04-18-19 04:58 #10769
Posts: 99It's not Silk. I saw her obit. When she passed away. She is unfortunately passed on and not coming back from the grave, folks.
Originally Posted by HillbillyBob [View Original Post]
-
04-17-19 22:25 #10768
Posts: 5263Originally Posted by Golden3 [View Original Post]
-
04-17-19 20:02 #10767
Posts: 578Silky Wetness
Originally Posted by Cincy [View Original Post]
-
04-17-19 13:11 #10766
Posts: 282Silky Wetness
Can you point to where you found this?
Thanks.
Originally Posted by CockNumb [View Original Post]
-
04-17-19 00:18 #10765
Posts: 443Agreed. Not ALL of them spend it on drugs
Originally Posted by WanderingAbout [View Original Post]
LL.
-
04-16-19 17:05 #10764
Posts: 1823Providers are druggies?
Agree some woman do use drugs of various sorts. Some woman manager their finances like crap. Some woman are in a tough spot and fall into the profession out of desperation. Everyone has their own story. Some good. Some bad. Some sad.
Respectfully disagree regarding the broad drug use claim for providers or sugar babies. Majority of encounters are with woman who are not using. Quite a few are very savvy business women who used the profession to bank roll investments and parlay themselves into a better life. Sasha Black for example banked, invested, retired from the business a rather wealthy woman. Lillian Chi used her earnings to build a multi-million dollar business in Dallas. Summer Daze bought rental property in FLA.
As always YMMV. If your experience is one involving mostly druggies then maybe its time to upgrade the quality of the women you are opt'ing to see.
Originally Posted by WhereDreamsGo [View Original Post]
-
04-16-19 16:00 #10763
Posts: 530Yeah, it's drugs
Originally Posted by DaytonSteve [View Original Post]
I stopped a long time ago paying attention to even the most impassioned claims of not using or no longer using drugs. I look for evidence instead -- like whether they're hitting me up for extra cash all the time, can they get and hold a job, are they in a position where they've got to get drug tested either to stay on parole or to pass a children's services screening to keep their kids (including buns in the oven). Even there, I'm assuming they're not finding fake pee on the black market. Even the job thing and leaving the business is not a guarantee. I'm sometimes pretty amazed at the ability of users to function in regular jobs, since I've seen so many who don't. But it is a very individual thing. I do think there are some cases where some have gotten clean and stayed that way. I hope I'm not deluding myself there.
It is different in a market like this with a low cost of living. You go to an expensive coastal city and you do find more of a mix of genuine students making a little extra money the easy way (relatively). Here, almost the only plausible reason is drug use in most cases. I guess I'm also assuming there are some SA sugar babies out there not using. That's also probably naive.
Not to be cynical, but I do recall a guy in a PM recently asking me if there were any signs of drug use for a provider. And I said something like: You mean besides having sex for money?
I don't think any less of them either, and obviously have gotten over moral hangups about seeing them. We've all got our issues, and mine is being attracted to bad girls with bad habits. What bothers me more though is knowing a couple who died of overdoses the past six months, people I really liked and who I know have family and friends who miss them a lot. Hell, I miss them, and I barely knew them. They would have done their thing ultimately with or without my money, but I still feel bad. One I knew was just struggling, and I really didn't have any idea how to help her, and honestly think she may have done it on purpose. The other I heard later had been trying to get on suboxone but didn't have the cash to start the program, and, hell, if I could have been convinced that was what it really was for, I would have given it to her. I guess, like with any stories, I have my doubts about that one, because she would have had the cash she needed if she'd spent what she'd gotten just from me on treatment instead of heroin.
-
04-16-19 13:35 #10762
Posts: 322Silky Wetness OMG
Originally Posted by CockNumb [View Original Post]
-
04-16-19 11:36 #10761
Posts: 478Moving this over here as I should have posted my original here.
Originally Posted by AroundCincy [View Original Post]
I've been "in the hobby" for 30 years things run in cycles, the cycle right now is drug abuse. The economy is great, jobs are plentiful. When the economy is bad you'd see single moms trying to take care of their kids, those situations do happen but they are hard to find these days and overall pretty rare. I agree there are exceptions to every rule but they are few and far between.
If you have to say "I'm not white knighting" then you are.
I'm not assuming they make 200 a day, in fact, they make way more than that seeing 6-10 guys a day everyday. I used 200 as a simple number that would take little if any effort to get to 70 k a year which would be a salary that a non addict could live very very comfortably on and I expect is more than a lot here make as the national average is 45 k a year.
Yes there are clean high end girls with 1000 dollar purses and super nice apartments, they won't see you for 100 bucks and are not who we are talking about.
I simply can't wrap my head around the fact that you guys think these girls aren't using drugs. It blows my mind. No 20 something year old is going to fuck a 70 year old dude for 100 bucks unless that money is going directly to drugs.
I'm not trying to demean or degrade any of the women, My whole point in bringing this up is that you need to keep your guard up, you need to expect that everyone you see is addicted and take the proper precautions. Once at a certain point of addiction, addicts will do literally anything to get that fix and "get better" including robbery, theft, kidnapping, and murder.
I'm done with topic, if you want to remain naive that's on you. Be safe out there guys.
Edit to add: I've met plenty of absolute sweethearts that swore up and down they didn't use only to find out later that they've been using for years. Good people, nice caring people, pretty, perfect teeth, One girl that I would have literally given anything too and taken care of her every need if only she'd give up the drugs. But the drugs are more important and if she was clean, she'd be way out of my league. I don't have any moral hangups about seeing a girl that uses, I don't think any less of them, I'm just careful about my safety and the security of my property.
-
04-16-19 08:25 #10760
Posts: 306From what I've seen, mongers in this city forget exactly what these girls are. This is why I find it funny when some shun SW's for USAA providers, and as I've said many, many times; they are the same girls, same everything, same reasons for seeing men, except one charges more. They are no cleaner, no better, no better looking, no better performing than a SW. You only see a SW when they need the fix, and they're not a dope sleep, same as any other type of provider. If you can reach her, AND she contacts you back, congrats, you caught her in need, and not knocked out on dope, and that can easily change any minute, or they've got someone else on the way.
I mean, people's own reports say everything you need to know. She was out of it, she smelled, ect, ect, the place was nasty, ect. And especially thinking they are somehow cleaner than SW's. The guys they see, also see SW's 100%. Bottom line, no source of girls is any different than any other, and these girls, are nothing but literal cum dumpsters, and shouldn't be thought of as anything more.
I've only met ONE provider that I could possibly see as maybe, possibly not on drugs, but I also 100% believe that she does. Because she provides.
-
04-16-19 08:10 #10759
Posts: 398Silky wetness
Who was it that said silky committed suicide, you were wrong she has resurfaced.
-
04-15-19 15:50 #10758
Posts: 433I Stand Corrected
Originally Posted by Ceenote [View Original Post]
But unfortunately, I too have independently learned that our beloved Kyla is well known to our least favorite uncles in multiple jurisdictions in the fair state of Ohio. Based on that info, it seems very likely that Kyla is in the hobby for pretty much the same reason as the vast majority of other providers.
I get no satisfaction out of saying it. She's always done right by me. But the facts are what they are.