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  1. #10930
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    Light on time = light on tip

    Quote Originally Posted by Procrast333  [View Original Post]
    I've been going here for a couple of months because I thought I found a really good legit spot. Clean, comfortable, professional and reasonable, all of that. But the last couple of times they keep shorting on time. That's one thing that really irritates me is the time issue.
    I usually deduct $10 if they short me 10 - 15 minutes. If they short me more than that then I deduct $20. But very important to let them know exactly why you're doing it and what they need to do to earn the full amount next time. And maybe also mention to MMS so she understands what's expected. They may pout and complain but they'll get the message that you're not a client to be f*cked with.

    Appropriate incentives and disincentives are what makes this hobby work. And allowing providers to take unfair advantage just makes things worse for future customers. Also, the same principles apply to legit masseuses, IMHO, although maybe adjust the amount of tip withheld since the tip is less to begin with.

  2. #10929
    Quote Originally Posted by Serpico99  [View Original Post]
    I stopped by Healing Touch (now called Healthy Therapy) on the weekend off of Digges hoping to see Mimi but there was another girl there, Lulu. She told me she was filling in for Angela, who is one of the other regular providers there.

    Typical Chinese middle aged, cute face, kind of tall for a Chinese woman, not slim but not fat just average body.

    She did a great massage and good ST. I was already horned up so it did not take long for me to explode. She gave me the Korean AMP 45 minute session, which sucked because Mimi and Angela always gives me the full hour.

    70 for hour, 50 tip. The massage was great so no complaints. The annoying thing was the door bell rang twice during my session so when a provider is working solo, it can be annoying to be interupted.

    I would not recommend Lulu. I would opt for Mimi or Angela.
    Did she mention why Mimi wasn't there?

  3. #10928

    Zen reflexology

    I've been going here for a couple of months because I thought I found a really good legit spot. Clean, comfortable, professional and reasonable, all of that. But the last couple of times they keep shorting on time. That's one thing that really irritates me is the time issue.

  4. #10927
    Quote Originally Posted by TitanOmega  [View Original Post]
    I had a dream that I made a second attempt. Went back and got the same unattractive woman and opted for the 30 min massage. I bared with the horrible massage knowing that I could get the BJ on the flip. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded and pointed to her mouth. She says she doesn't do that. I got so mad but contained myself. I sat through that horrible massage I'm sure I have enough patience to talk her into it. After a few strokes I ask her if she can BJ, that she did it for me last time I was here. A complete lie but I was swinging for the fences and she thinks about it and says 1. I ask her one hund red? She stares at me blankley and goes back to stroking after a min of confusion. So pissed off I'm now trying to figure something else out and I start thinking of cows and old ladies taking baths and she couldn't get me going and she grew more and more frustrated. She stepped back and wrapped her hair up and I'm thinking I won she's about to go down. Completely wrong. She instead lifts up her dress and attempts to take off her bra but was too lazy to get off completely over her tits so she grabs my hand buts on her flat butt. It wasn't working for me and offered to leave unfinished. I'll try one more time but if I don't get thicker one I won't bother.
    This place has probably seen a big uptick in mongers asking for BBBJ after the recent review so she probably got spooked and isn't giving it anymore (if she was doing BBBJ as an extra service). Or she may have been somewhat attracted to the other monger who was able to get it.

  5. #10926
    Quote Originally Posted by TitanOmega  [View Original Post]
    I had a dream that I made a second attempt. Went back and got the same unattractive woman and opted for the 30 min massage. I bared with the horrible massage knowing that I could get the BJ on the flip. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded and pointed to her mouth. She says she doesn't do that. I got so mad but contained myself. I sat through that horrible massage I'm sure I have enough patience to talk her into it. After a few strokes I ask her if she can BJ, that she did it for me last time I was here. A complete lie but I was swinging for the fences and she thinks about it and says 1. I ask her one hund red? She stares at me blankley and goes back to stroking after a min of confusion. So pissed off I'm now trying to figure something else out and I start thinking of cows and old ladies taking baths and she couldn't get me going and she grew more and more frustrated. She stepped back and wrapped her hair up and I'm thinking I won she's about to go down. Completely wrong. She instead lifts up her dress and attempts to take off her bra but was too lazy to get off completely over her tits so she grabs my hand buts on her flat butt. It wasn't working for me and offered to leave unfinished. I'll try one more time but if I don't get thicker one I won't bother.
    Besides YMMV, maybe the lady doesn't want to BJ for every guy coming in after one review here. Please don't get angry, it's her choice. I always thought (at least for me) this hobby is supposed to be fun for both.

  6. #10925
    Haahah wow man that sucks. Funny thing is, I went yesterday maybe an hour or two before closing for the same reason. I walked in but I didn't even get the girl and I didn't want to seem to eager as if I already knew about the BJ so I didn't. Instead I got another girl named Amy, a little better looking, taller more solid build. Massage was one of the best I've had at an AMP. So I instantly knew I wasn't getting a BJ and didn't take my chances to gamble after such a great massage she did pull down her shirt and reveal really great set of tits to my surprise, feeding allowed while HJ to completion. Damage. 6 + . 2 . Tip.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitanOmega  [View Original Post]
    I had a dream that I made a second attempt. Went back and got the same unattractive woman and opted for the 30 min massage. I bared with the horrible massage knowing that I could get the BJ on the flip. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded and pointed to her mouth. She says she doesn't do that. I got so mad but contained myself. I sat through that horrible massage I'm sure I have enough patience to talk her into it. After a few strokes I ask her if she can BJ, that she did it for me last time I was here. A complete lie but I was swinging for the fences and she thinks about it and says 1. I ask her one hund red? She stares at me blankley and goes back to stroking after a min of confusion. So pissed off I'm now trying to figure something else out and I start thinking of cows and old ladies taking baths and she couldn't get me going and she grew more and more frustrated. She stepped back and wrapped her hair up and I'm thinking I won she's about to go down. Completely wrong. She instead lifts up her dress and attempts to take off her bra but was too lazy to get off completely over her tits so she grabs my hand buts on her flat butt. It wasn't working for me and offered to leave unfinished. I'll try one more time but if I don't get thicker one I won't bother.
    .

  7. #10924

    Less than an hour. Tell them massage for remaining time. My pet peeve.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpico99  [View Original Post]
    I stopped by Healing Touch (now called Healthy Therapy) on the weekend off of Digges hoping to see Mimi but there was another girl there, Lulu. She told me she was filling in for Angela, who is one of the other regular providers there.

    Typical Chinese middle aged, cute face, kind of tall for a Chinese woman, not slim but not fat just average body.

    She did a great massage and good ST. I was already horned up so it did not take long for me to explode. She gave me the Korean AMP 45 minute session, which sucked because Mimi and Angela always gives me the full hour.

    70 for hour, 50 tip. The massage was great so no complaints. The annoying thing was the door bell rang twice during my session so when a provider is working solo, it can be annoying to be interupted.

    I would not recommend Lulu. I would opt for Mimi or Angela.
    I usually enjoy a massage and extras. If they sometimes think time is over after extras, just refer then to the time they started and lay there and ask them to finish, nicely, laughing and jokingly, of course. Just roll over on belly and say 15 more minutes I paid you for, Thanks. They usually have to comply. If they say, "you want water" say yes after you finish my time! If you have already paid for "tip", that is the only way to get your point across. It is up to us to help them and coach them to being good providers. For the sake of all of us! (Me).

    Happy Guy 2.

  8. #10923

    Attempt 2

    Quote Originally Posted by TitanOmega  [View Original Post]
    I had no idea! She barely spoke english how did you convince her? I'm looking to give it another go around especially if I can pull that dream off or with the thicker one.
    I had a dream that I made a second attempt. Went back and got the same unattractive woman and opted for the 30 min massage. I bared with the horrible massage knowing that I could get the BJ on the flip. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded and pointed to her mouth. She says she doesn't do that. I got so mad but contained myself. I sat through that horrible massage I'm sure I have enough patience to talk her into it. After a few strokes I ask her if she can BJ, that she did it for me last time I was here. A complete lie but I was swinging for the fences and she thinks about it and says 1. I ask her one hund red? She stares at me blankley and goes back to stroking after a min of confusion. So pissed off I'm now trying to figure something else out and I start thinking of cows and old ladies taking baths and she couldn't get me going and she grew more and more frustrated. She stepped back and wrapped her hair up and I'm thinking I won she's about to go down. Completely wrong. She instead lifts up her dress and attempts to take off her bra but was too lazy to get off completely over her tits so she grabs my hand buts on her flat butt. It wasn't working for me and offered to leave unfinished. I'll try one more time but if I don't get thicker one I won't bother.

  9. #10922

    Healing Touches / Healthy Therapy Manassas

    I stopped by Healing Touch (now called Healthy Therapy) on the weekend off of Digges hoping to see Mimi but there was another girl there, Lulu. She told me she was filling in for Angela, who is one of the other regular providers there.

    Typical Chinese middle aged, cute face, kind of tall for a Chinese woman, not slim but not fat just average body.

    She did a great massage and good ST. I was already horned up so it did not take long for me to explode. She gave me the Korean AMP 45 minute session, which sucked because Mimi and Angela always gives me the full hour.

    70 for hour, 50 tip. The massage was great so no complaints. The annoying thing was the door bell rang twice during my session so when a provider is working solo, it can be annoying to be interupted.

    I would not recommend Lulu. I would opt for Mimi or Angela.

  10. #10921

    Qs

    Yes just a HJ with prostate massage.

    Didn't get a good look at Linda but she looked older and skinnier. Amy wasn't fat but not skinny or shapely.

  11. #10920

    Mint

    Saw Mint (KK's friend) last week. Nice massage in an upscale and very safe location. Takes off everything with the right tip, but comes out expensive for what you get (only HJ seems to be on the menu). Very pretty girl and great body, amazing ass and tits. Probably would not repeat due to price. Pm for more details.

  12. #10919
    Quote Originally Posted by RidgeRacer  [View Original Post]
    Was in desperate need of a massage with my back killing me and had a frustrating day of trying and failing to set up appointments with independent providers, both who I've seen before and who I've heard good things about. My window was closing so finally I decided to check out this place which is advertising on CL as having new staff. Haven't seen much in the way of reviews for this place, but lots of reviews for previous AMPs in the same location which I took as a good sign. I called ahead and spoke to Linda who said they could see me as soon as I got there. She seemed to be trying to sound sexy to me which I thought was another good sign.

    On my way, I got a text asking if I was still coming which was a tad off-putting since I had assumed it was a land line. When I got there I was a little confused because there's another asian spa in the same office park (also discussed on other sites but seems to be 100% legit). But I found the one I was looking for which is closer to the front and visible from the highway. Inside was clean, if spartan, and pretty open, I imagine if there were other people there it might be hard to avoid seeing them. No doorbell or anything like at other AMPs. There was an older lady sitting on a couch (I guess Linda) and my masseuse Amy greeted me. Both Chinese.

    Amy was not a looker by any stretch, but not repulsive, probably in her 50's. She led me to a pretty spacious, well lit massage room just next to the lobby with a curtain and also a normal door. I got undressed and lay on the table face down with no towel. She came in and closed the curtain but not the regular door. She put a towel on me but I told her I prefer without and she didn't mind. Kind of awkward at first because there was no music and I could hear the woman in the next room clinking a spoon in her tea cup, but I asked for music and she put it on.
    Could you describe the build of the two ladies?

  13. #10918

    Shocking

    Quote Originally Posted by GripNSip  [View Original Post]
    Yeah I had another dream this morning. Got stuck with the skinny one. There's 2 girls here, the heavier set one gives a much much better massage, she's kinda a butterface with a great pair. The skinny one is meh in the looks department but has a nice body, the problem is her massage skills are straight up trash that barely passes for decent soft touch. I took an hour and gambled on an old proverb. It's the soft and shy ones that are wild in the sac. So a boring hour passes and I convince her to do a BBBJ for an extra. 8 and let me tell you. Her dick sucking skills were out of this world. It's like she saves all the energy and skill for the desert. I popped a little in her mouth and then she shook me for the finale and let me tell you, it was glorious. So I'm conflicted because the massage is shit, but that finish was amazing. But for Total damage of $. 4 I left satisfied.
    I had no idea! She barely spoke english how did you convince her? I'm looking to give it another go around especially if I can pull that dream off or with the thicker one.

  14. #10917
    Quote Originally Posted by RidgeRacer  [View Original Post]
    Was in desperate need of a massage with my back killing me and had a frustrating day of trying and failing to set up appointments with independent providers, both who I've seen before and who I've heard good things about. My window was closing so finally I decided to check out this place which is advertising on CL as having new staff. Haven't seen much in the way of reviews for this place, but lots of reviews for previous AMPs in the same location which I took as a good sign. I called ahead and spoke to Linda who said they could see me as soon as I got there. She seemed to be trying to sound sexy to me which I thought was another good sign.

    On my way, I got a text asking if I was still coming which was a tad off-putting since I had assumed it was a land line. When I got there I was a little confused because there's another asian spa in the same office park (also discussed on other sites but seems to be 100% legit). But I found the one I was looking for which is closer to the front and visible from the highway. Inside was clean, if spartan, and pretty open, I imagine if there were other people there it might be hard to avoid seeing them. No doorbell or anything like at other AMPs. There was an older lady sitting on a couch (I guess Linda) and my masseuse Amy greeted me. Both Chinese.

    Amy was not a looker by any stretch, but not repulsive, probably in her 50's. She led me to a pretty spacious, well lit massage room just next to the lobby with a curtain and also a normal door. I got undressed and lay on the table face down with no towel. She came in and closed the curtain but not the regular door. She put a towel on me but I told her I prefer without and she didn't mind. Kind of awkward at first because there was no music and I could hear the woman in the next room clinking a spoon in her tea cup, but I asked for music and she put it on.

    I asked for a hard massage and she delivered. Really worked deep, exactly what I needed for my back. Nothing sensual to speak of at that point, but it felt so good I didn't care.

    Once she moved on from my back to my legs and glutes I decided I might as well go for the bonus of a HE after getting what I really came for. I signaled my pleasure when she got close to the good spots and she didn't shy away. After a little teasing, she went to get a hot towel and when she came back, closed the door behind her. I had a good idea after that that things were going to go my way.

    She cleaned me thoroughly and started with the ST. On the flip, she did a very nice ST but was pretty hesitant, kept asking me "OK?" as she touched more and more taboo areas. I let her know it was more than OK and she got to work. No discussion of tip until that point but as she worked me deeper and her finger got closer to a certain orifice, I encouraged her to keep going and she said "you give me more tips?" which I happily agreed to before she took the plunge. In the heat of the moment I asked her to use her mouth but she just ignored me. She also allowed some roaming over her jeans but I didn't try for anything more since she was not very exciting to touch or look at. She was not as enthusiastic as some other providers I've seen but still supportive and seemed happy to be doing the job, which she did well.

    After an explosive finish, she cleaned me up and got back to work on a nice leg and foot massage. Got my full hour's worth.

    Damage was $. 6/ 6. She seemed very happy with the $. 6 tip, I may have been able to get away with less but I thought she earned it. On the way out, she gave me a bottle of water and a punch card where you get a free massage after your tenth visit. If I had the time and budget, I just might try to get there, given the strength of the massage, the lack of interruptions and the enjoyable finish.
    Glad you ended up finding a good place for what you needed. Sorry I couldn't think of anywhere to go. Finish was just a tug I'm assuming?

  15. #10916

    Yiz Spa

    Was in desperate need of a massage with my back killing me and had a frustrating day of trying and failing to set up appointments with independent providers, both who I've seen before and who I've heard good things about. My window was closing so finally I decided to check out this place which is advertising on CL as having new staff. Haven't seen much in the way of reviews for this place, but lots of reviews for previous AMPs in the same location which I took as a good sign. I called ahead and spoke to Linda who said they could see me as soon as I got there. She seemed to be trying to sound sexy to me which I thought was another good sign.

    On my way, I got a text asking if I was still coming which was a tad off-putting since I had assumed it was a land line. When I got there I was a little confused because there's another asian spa in the same office park (also discussed on other sites but seems to be 100% legit). But I found the one I was looking for which is closer to the front and visible from the highway. Inside was clean, if spartan, and pretty open, I imagine if there were other people there it might be hard to avoid seeing them. No doorbell or anything like at other AMPs. There was an older lady sitting on a couch (I guess Linda) and my masseuse Amy greeted me. Both Chinese.

    Amy was not a looker by any stretch, but not repulsive, probably in her 50's. She led me to a pretty spacious, well lit massage room just next to the lobby with a curtain and also a normal door. I got undressed and lay on the table face down with no towel. She came in and closed the curtain but not the regular door. She put a towel on me but I told her I prefer without and she didn't mind. Kind of awkward at first because there was no music and I could hear the woman in the next room clinking a spoon in her tea cup, but I asked for music and she put it on.

    I asked for a hard massage and she delivered. Really worked deep, exactly what I needed for my back. Nothing sensual to speak of at that point, but it felt so good I didn't care.

    Once she moved on from my back to my legs and glutes I decided I might as well go for the bonus of a HE after getting what I really came for. I signaled my pleasure when she got close to the good spots and she didn't shy away. After a little teasing, she went to get a hot towel and when she came back, closed the door behind her. I had a good idea after that that things were going to go my way.

    She cleaned me thoroughly and started with the ST. On the flip, she did a very nice ST but was pretty hesitant, kept asking me "OK?" as she touched more and more taboo areas. I let her know it was more than OK and she got to work. No discussion of tip until that point but as she worked me deeper and her finger got closer to a certain orifice, I encouraged her to keep going and she said "you give me more tips?" which I happily agreed to before she took the plunge. In the heat of the moment I asked her to use her mouth but she just ignored me. She also allowed some roaming over her jeans but I didn't try for anything more since she was not very exciting to touch or look at. She was not as enthusiastic as some other providers I've seen but still supportive and seemed happy to be doing the job, which she did well.

    After an explosive finish, she cleaned me up and got back to work on a nice leg and foot massage. Got my full hour's worth.

    Damage was $. 6/ 6. She seemed very happy with the $. 6 tip, I may have been able to get away with less but I thought she earned it. On the way out, she gave me a bottle of water and a punch card where you get a free massage after your tenth visit. If I had the time and budget, I just might try to get there, given the strength of the massage, the lack of interruptions and the enjoyable finish.

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