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  1. #11479

    Tipping

    Quote Originally Posted by Trab01  [View Original Post]
    What was the damage? Not trying to over tip.
    You probably can expect to donate around $. 2 for the full menu.

  2. #11478

    Sin City

    Quote Originally Posted by RustyMuffler  [View Original Post]
    I have often wondered how many of the middle aged AMP ladies I have seen are in the massage industry due to their gambling habits. Of course, I've never asked. It's none of my business. But I am curious about that potential connection.

    And the other side of the coin is that I've often looked around at the other patrons of the casino I happen to be in and wonder if any of them are playing with money they've made pleasing men in a p4 p arrangement, particularly as AMP workers.

    And I don't mean this as a stereotype, but I especially wonder about the Asian ladies sitting at the roulette wheel and lingering on the slot machines.

    Just a couple of thoughts.
    Happens much more commonly than one might think. I actually went to get a massage at a place a few months ago one evening at a time I thought the place would be open since it was within posted hours. Place was locked, called a few times, no answer. Gave up and went home. Got a text the next morning from MMS who apologized and said she closed up early last night to go to the casino. Said she was open this morning and asked me to come down for an appt. I did and actually made that the conversational topic while getting the massage. She told me every provider there has a gambling problem, they usually go about once week Sunday nights after close and spend hours and hours at the MGM doing slots and what not. She told me that day she lost $700 which for her was a few days worth of tips on a good day, sometimes they win big but sometimes they lose bigger. She told me another provider there actually lost $10,000 last night. LOL could you imagine that's probably months and months of tip money evaporated. So you can imagine this viscous cycle of providing these extras then blowing your earnings away at the casino. Rinse and repeat.

  3. #11477

    Damage?

    What was the damage? Not trying to over tip.

    Quote Originally Posted by DMV8454  [View Original Post]
    Went here on a whim. Massage facilities are on the second floor. Was met by a short petite blonde attendant in sweats who was busy with a customer and passed me off to another lady. Didn't catch her name but she was taller, curvy, long black hair, and heavy makeup.

    TS was very thorough and a strong massage ensued. Early flip followed by an enthusiastic Russian finish without having to ask was the highlight. Foot massage and second finish upon request. Another shower was offered but declined due to time constraints. Even then still went 10 minutes over the hour. Will repeat.

  4. #11476
    Quote Originally Posted by Trab01  [View Original Post]
    . No lights or open sign that was on that made me think they were closed. Rang the bell ,Trab.
    No lights / sign and door bell is standard practice for the therapists in this area. You can probably walk to New Sky or Pine from your location, call first to make sure they are open and have someone free. They have a fair turnover and some may have more meat, also younger. A little farther is K&J a new place, it does have an open sign.

  5. #11475

    MMS is a great change of pace

    Roamin Roman read my mind. I was going to suggest the same thing. I've found that the older ladies can be so much fun.

    First, if you ask the MMS to be your "therapist," they are usually flattered. And once you flatter a woman in a sincere way, a lot of things can open up. There are fewer inhibitions, there is generally more of a natural feeling to the sensual portion of your session. And it usually leads to her wanting to really please you. How's that for your attendant's mindset going into your visit?

    Let's face it, experience means so much in their profession. She knows more ways to really push a man's buttons than the younger ladies have yet learned. Just the right way to touch you, or to allow herself to relax and really enjoy your efforts. I've been blown away by some of the age 50+ women I have seen. (Pun intended.) And they seem to be more open minded to letting things unfold in a natural way. You play your cards right, and you may just get a great GFE session for the price of an AMP visit.

    However, that may mean you have to be more open minded. If you are intent on always seeing the youngest girl you can find in the spa, don't bother trying the mamasan. You'll just set yourself up for disappointment. But if you are open to it, I've found the benefits are most definitely worth it. Maybe I am lucky because I have always found middle aged women alluring and sexy. And let's face it, Asian women age very gracefully. They are often 10-15 years, or even 20 years, older than they look. And their skin stays so soft and sensual.

    So next time you meet the mamasan and you think she's attractive and that you could enjoy spending time with her, by all means give her a try. You can thank RR and me later.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoaminRoman  [View Original Post]
    Next time you visit and MMS is about to bring in the choices, tell MMS that you want her. See what progresses from that. You might be surprised. Oftentimes, the MMS is open to providing, but isn't anticipating that the monger would want her. (The other girls, if present, might even giggle when you ask MMS.) At any rate, if you do manage to convince MMS to provide the session, you'll probably have an inside track at that place from then on.

    Roman.

  6. #11474

    Suggestion for next time

    Quote Originally Posted by Creeping  [View Original Post]
    Had the day so I stopped at ST, wow what a surprise! MS provided the house TS and she did an amazing job, like I had a pop-up from that alone! Then after that, I'm lying down and MS brings my choices in to which I select Fendi who is a tall spinner with bolt ons. She was very sensual and was a looker from most of the standard. Def will repeat! BTW, if anyone has any other similar experiences where its as easy for the provider to ask if you want everything please do send me that info. Damage was $. 6, half was house other was tip! Creepin'.
    Next time you visit and MMS is about to bring in the choices, tell MMS that you want her. See what progresses from that. You might be surprised. Oftentimes, the MMS is open to providing, but isn't anticipating that the monger would want her. (The other girls, if present, might even giggle when you ask MMS.) At any rate, if you do manage to convince MMS to provide the session, you'll probably have an inside track at that place from then on.

    Roman.

  7. #11473

    ST in Arlington, Great!

    Had the day so I stopped at ST, wow what a surprise! MS provided the house TS and she did an amazing job, like I had a pop-up from that alone! Then after that, I'm lying down and MS brings my choices in to which I select Fendi who is a tall spinner with bolt ons. She was very sensual and was a looker from most of the standard. Def will repeat! BTW, if anyone has any other similar experiences where its as easy for the provider to ask if you want everything please do send me that info. Damage was $. 6, half was house other was tip! Creepin'.

  8. #11472

    I Second The Vote For Cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred86  [View Original Post]
    I've never had a problem here.

    If you use cash you'll probably have a bit better luck.
    Fred is wise.

    Never use a credit card when mongering, unless you really do not care about who knows about your activities. Cash is nearly untraceable and damn near impossible to be linked to any account with your name on it. Credit cards leave footprints, so to speak. The ladies prefer cash, as well, for the same reasons.

    Stay safe out there.

    - Vaughn.

  9. #11471

    I got you all beat LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShortMan22  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone ever had to chance to date or hook up with anAMP outside of work? If so can you PM me your experience with her?
    Seems we all have dating stories. Mine is really crazy. Back in 2013 there used to be an operation where what I later found out was a local guy from south America who used to put out backpage adult gigs offers all over the country and fly them in to DC to do body rubs. It was setup out of various apartments in falls church. Anyways went in 2013 and ended up meeting a provider who was there from another city. We seem to really hit it off so randomly asked her for drinks a few days later and she said yes. We proceeded to my surprise kind of had a normal date and after the bar she snuck me into the house to hook up, for free. Again kind of like a normal date.

    She stopped coming here and did it on her own in her own city and coincidently I had to start traveling to that city for my job. We became really close and when I tried to give her money she said she didn't want me paying her anymore. We would even have 3 somes with her friends that she knew around her town and recruited to work with her, she was really bi. We had 3 somes with 3 different friends of hers, It was a really crazy time of life and after awhile we really developed feelings and all those issues of growing feelings to a "working girl" really mentally wore me down.

    After a year of that she then got pregnant by her ex bf and that ended things and she already had a daughter. Fast forward to today, we are good friends still and I actually grew really close to her daughter as I watched her grow up over the years. She has gained a lot of weight and doesn't look like she did in 2013 so I doubt she is still in the business, but who knows. None of my business. I will see her in a month when on business and taking her daughter trick or treating.

    It was a wild journey and all because I got that itch one day 5 years ago and responded to an ad. Crazy right? Anybody got that story beat? LOL.

    Stay safe.

  10. #11470

    Speaking of psyche

    Quote Originally Posted by GripNSip  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. This ain't no fucking fairy tale. I grew too close to a provider once, came by once or twice a week to get what I thought at the time was the VIP service. I thought I worked my way up passed the NOVA standard, that I was somehow different. So. Naive. I always thought man she knows the way around my junk like a pro. Well, that's because practice makes perfect and boy she was getting plenty of practice. You think it don't affect your psyche but it does and I had the sense to come through before I flew into the sun. She would squeeze me in right after seeing a customer and then there would be a customer that immediately followed after my time was up. For you Clerks fans out there, 37 in a row. You ain't special, you're a walking ATM and she might tell you otherwise but that's the way it goes. You ain't no Richard Gere and she ain't no Julia Roberts. Keep it business.
    Nothing worse than the feeling of calling my ex to schedule an appointment. I did it last month. The week before Labor Day. I made that call, made that drive, climbed those stairs and looked into the eyes that use to wake up next to mine. What a wonderful experience until I made the drive back home. All that I experienced over the years with her reduced to an hour and a half and $$ bitcoins. I should not have gone back, but I had to.

    I noticed no one mentioned how you feel when someone talks about your significant other on here? Try reading that your girl who kissed you hello today also took a bbbjcimswnq from one of your contemporaries here on the forum? Now you both intimately know everyone here. Try that for psyche. I for one and not strong enough to keep living that arrangement.

  11. #11469

    RE: Gambling Connection?

    I have often wondered how many of the middle aged AMP ladies I have seen are in the massage industry due to their gambling habits. Of course, I've never asked. It's none of my business. But I am curious about that potential connection.

    And the other side of the coin is that I've often looked around at the other patrons of the casino I happen to be in and wonder if any of them are playing with money they've made pleasing men in a p4 p arrangement, particularly as AMP workers.

    And I don't mean this as a stereotype, but I especially wonder about the Asian ladies sitting at the roulette wheel and lingering on the slot machines.

    Just a couple of thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpico99  [View Original Post]
    I did, but it was a pay for play. Anyone remember Coco from Bay (now BKY) Therapy in Annandale? She was giving up BBFS to mongers and I was her one of her clients. She got her own place and I hooked up with her at her place, but for a price. All fine with me. I think she was into gambling as she use to tell me she use to stay out late and watch Korean card games in the local area and play online. That's why she probably was giving BBFS to make bigger tips and spend it on her habit.

    I would never get involved with a provider who was hooked into gambling. They will end up spreading their legs for any client when they need the cash.

  12. #11468
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidCeltic  [View Original Post]
    Read them all carefully. They all ring true to me, and I was in a relationship for 8 years. In the end she was working as "Manager" Was I really sure she did not fill in when things got busy? I tried not to think about it. If you do it don't get serious. Keep it on a FWB basis, If you can. Take care.
    Curious to know (if you want to share) if you ever found out if she was filling in or seeing her regular clients when they called to schedule with her specifically? A lot of these providers have regulars who probably treat them good with tips.

  13. #11467

    Herndon S

    Hola gents,

    Took a dive last night against my better judgment at the Herndon S. Closer to where I was and walked there. No lights or open sign that was on that made me think they were closed. Rang the bell and was greeted by an older lady, Amanda, but not too bad on the eyes. Late 40's ish thin frame all around, little disappointing as I prefer more meat. About 6/10, maybe. I wouldn't turn her away at last call at the bar, but I wouldn't chase her either.

    Anyways, . 6 for half hour. And took me to the first room. Left my tip, . 4 on the table for her when she came back in. Iopted for the softer massage which turned out to be pretty good. Light tease. On the flip immediately went to work after I pointed out my sore spots. Nice finish, but nothing memorable. No haggle either which was great. Not sure I'll be back unless someone is aware of other providers there similar to what I prefer.

    Trab.

  14. #11466
    Quote Originally Posted by ShortMan22  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone ever had to chance to date or hook up with anAMP outside of work? If so can you PM me your experience with her?
    I did, but it was a pay for play. Anyone remember Coco from Bay (now BKY) Therapy in Annandale? She was giving up BBFS to mongers and I was her one of her clients. She got her own place and I hooked up with her at her place, but for a price. All fine with me. I think she was into gambling as she use to tell me she use to stay out late and watch Korean card games in the local area and play online. That's why she probably was giving BBFS to make bigger tips and spend it on her habit.

    I would never get involved with a provider who was hooked into gambling. They will end up spreading their legs for any client when they need the cash.

  15. #11465

    Very wise words

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    To paraphrase an old saying, "ain't no such thing as free pussy. ".

    If you choose the pay-to-play model, which is what this forum is all about, then your costs will generally be knowable and quantifiable. If you choose the dating relationship model, whether serious or casual, you will most likely encounter some unexpected and, at least beforehand, unknowable and unquantifiable costs.

    All relationships are complicated because they involve complicated personalities and issues. The hobby is relatively simple because both you and the (adult, consenting) provider are conducting a business transaction in which you both benefit. While you might have positive feelings about a provider, and she about you, there is no true relationship involved and if you stopped seeing each other you would both move on.

    So, not sure what your goal is, but my recommendation is not to mix your hobby life with your real-life relationships. Having personally dated a provider, I'd rather be waterboarded than go through that again.

    And always remember that you're paying for it. It's just a matter of whether or not you know the costs in advance.
    I have enjoyed many friendships -- but, for the ladies it is a business. JMS has great wisdom.

    Always be nice to the ladies.

    PA.

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