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  1. #13734

    Shirlington

    Had a great visit on a business travel layover here. Thought I was going to have to Uber to Greenbelt to VIP or RS, but was able to get same just a few miles from hotel.

  2. #13733

    Unenviable

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    What does it take for a massage therapist to, assuming they don't have a moral problem with doing so, offer extras? The major factor is how they view the rewards vs the potential risks.

    An independent masseuse has some external risk to worry about (LE) but, since she controls things as her own boss, she doesn't have any internal issues.

    A masseuse at a spa where extras are offered is an employee and not the boss. But the fact that management knows what's going on and encourages it means she also doesn't have any internal risks to worry about.

    But Massage Envy is a legit franchise-based business. So any employee-therapist would almost certainly lose their job if they were caught doing extras. And any owner could possibly have their franchise terminated. That's a dramatically different risk-reward calculation.

    Which doesn't mean it's not possible that some random ME therapist might be persuaded to give a HJ at some random point in time. But I wouldn't bank on it as the odds are stacked way against you.
    All true, but I've heard it happens. ME pays such a miserable wage that the people working for them are often fairly desperate for cash. Not that it's a good idea. In fact, it's a terrible idea. I've also heard that the cops prey on these poor people, throwing money at them trying to pick off the weak ones.

    Well, you hear a lot of things.

  3. #13732

    Not worth the risk

    Quote Originally Posted by Lioil  [View Original Post]
    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?
    Massage Envy is legit. Don't bother trying to obtain HE services there unless you want to find your name on the news or in the paper. You're better off sticking with providers discussed here such as KK, Nalee or Tara if you want a good massage followed by a HE.

  4. #13731
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1832

    If you think about it, the question answers itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lioil  [View Original Post]
    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?
    What does it take for a massage therapist to, assuming they don't have a moral problem with doing so, offer extras? The major factor is how they view the rewards vs the potential risks.

    An independent masseuse has some external risk to worry about (LE) but, since she controls things as her own boss, she doesn't have any internal issues.

    A masseuse at a spa where extras are offered is an employee and not the boss. But the fact that management knows what's going on and encourages it means she also doesn't have any internal risks to worry about.

    But Massage Envy is a legit franchise-based business. So any employee-therapist would almost certainly lose their job if they were caught doing extras. And any owner could possibly have their franchise terminated. That's a dramatically different risk-reward calculation.

    Which doesn't mean it's not possible that some random ME therapist might be persuaded to give a HJ at some random point in time. But I wouldn't bank on it as the odds are stacked way against you.

  5. #13730
    Quote Originally Posted by Lioil  [View Original Post]
    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?
    Can confirm, depending on your approach and status in the facility, asking about it could get you 86'd and if you are exceptionally stupid or gross about it the manager will call the cops. Maybe after developing some relationship / rapport you could just end up dating them and go from there.

  6. #13729

    There was a Chinese Massage Envy knockoff in McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by Lioil  [View Original Post]
    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?
    Called Massage Enjoy, about ten years ago. It took a few visits, but I was able to get to BBFS with Wendy, the only therapist who ever worked there.

    I wouldn't try it at the real Massage Envy places, though.

  7. #13728
    Quote Originally Posted by Lioil  [View Original Post]
    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?
    I wouldn't try it, you might end up like the owner of the 9:30 club.

  8. #13727

    Sunstar Spa, Fairfax or Merrifield

    I last visited this place some years back. It was okay, but nothing to write home about. But I decided to check it out today. I was told there was a 10 minute wait, which was acceptable. After a few minutes the provider comes in and takes the fee for a 1 hour massage. She then leaves. When she returned a few minutes later I asked her if she's going to answer the door every time it rings. She said yes and gave me the story that it's this way in every spa. BS. It's only this way where there's no MMS.

    To the provider's credit, she offered to return my. 8. I accepted and left. In case anyone is interested she was attractive, but older. Somewhat north of 50.

    I'm glad I checked the place out, but won't return there.

  9. #13726
    Senior Member


    Posts: 180

    Any luck at massage envy places?

    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?

  10. #13725

    DMV Travel

    Quote Originally Posted by SSmith  [View Original Post]
    For those of us in the southern part of Northern Virginia or who don't mind a bit of a drive, Lily at Cicis Oriental massage in Fredericksburg has been worth a couple trips for me. She has a great set of natural D's, is younger (early 30's) and has a cute, bubbly personality to match. I start with a hour long appointment w / TS for. 7. Her massage is a very relaxing, rhythmic medium pressure style that almost puts me to sleep. Hard, Thai massage it is not but that's my preference. On the flip offered. 8 and pointed to my mouth, she agreed but that lasted all of 15 seconds before she finished with a great bouncy standard Nova. On my second trip tried again for a french lesson but she declined b / c of the oil, left. 5 after another nice jiggly Nova ending with lots of nursing. She's here until September.
    I thought I was the only one here with a car! You're right DD Lilly in Fredericksburg is excellent. True Story. My first visit, as I made my approach, "Mom" dropped off the kids to the comic book store next door. After a wonderful visit, on my way out, a Fireman in uniform stopped by to check the wiring.

    Also worth checking out down south is Michelle at Sakura. She provides a excellent "legit" massage as a bonus you're still at a AMP! Michelle splits her time between NY and Virginia.

  11. #13724

    Crystal Spa in Vienna

    Quote Originally Posted by Kijimuna  [View Original Post]
    Not Herndon. It's on Gallows.
    Should this become a FAQ? The last 10 pages have this question and answer repeat. I've even PM the exact address to someone. It's Crystal Spa in Vienna.

  12. #13723

    Eleven 11 Herndon

    Dream in Herndon.

    Good discrete parking. Nice clean place. Tall thin, a cup, mid-30's pretty provider with not much english. Very good table shower. An attempt at the soft tickle massage. I give it a 4 for what it is, but it is not my thing. Early move to the happiness massage that was provided nicely with a very good prostate internal elevator. However, the remaining 30 minutes were the worst massage I have ever had. Pinching, poor hand placement. I mean it was bad.

    Tipped $. 5 due to the internal elevator which was good and should be compensated, but I would never return.

    Last look. On the way out of this dream world, a very pretty, tiny well stacked alternative popped out of the office by the door to say hello. Dam! Where were you 50 minutes ago?

    Ahh now a I am awake.

  13. #13722
    Quote Originally Posted by Sswede  [View Original Post]
    Is this the Crystal in Herndon? Thanks for clarifying!
    Not Herndon. It's on Gallows.

  14. #13721

    Which Crystal is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krakatoa  [View Original Post]
    I went by Crystal early today, hoping for more pleasant surprises. Turns out all their providers are on the rag. LOL!

    Kiki met me at the door. She hadn't even gotten into her outfit yet and excused herself to change. I didn't see the point until she came back in in the black outfit that a previous poster mentioned. Wow! What a beauty!

    I administered a little massage. Negotiations for the few remaining options were getting tedious--she's not one to be reasoned with--so I settled for a HJ. Unfortunately she doesn't like those awesome titties sucked on. So, not the session I was hoping for, but by the end her pro personality was coming out. She was getting flirtatious and urging me to come back next week for the full treatment, which I undoubtedly will. I'm a sucker for beautiful Chinese girls.

    (Re "girls": legal age, of course. No worries, Unc.).

    K.
    Is this the Crystal in Herndon? Thanks for clarifying!

  15. #13720

    Come back next week

    I went by Crystal early today, hoping for more pleasant surprises. Turns out all their providers are on the rag. LOL!

    Kiki met me at the door. She hadn't even gotten into her outfit yet and excused herself to change. I didn't see the point until she came back in in the black outfit that a previous poster mentioned. Wow! What a beauty!

    I administered a little massage. Negotiations for the few remaining options were getting tedious--she's not one to be reasoned with--so I settled for a HJ. Unfortunately she doesn't like those awesome titties sucked on. So, not the session I was hoping for, but by the end her pro personality was coming out. She was getting flirtatious and urging me to come back next week for the full treatment, which I undoubtedly will. I'm a sucker for beautiful Chinese girls.

    (Re "girls": legal age, of course. No worries, Unc.).

    K.

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