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  1. #13732

    Not worth the risk

    Quote Originally Posted by Lioil  [View Original Post]
    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?
    Massage Envy is legit. Don't bother trying to obtain HE services there unless you want to find your name on the news or in the paper. You're better off sticking with providers discussed here such as KK, Nalee or Tara if you want a good massage followed by a HE.

  2. #13731
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1833

    If you think about it, the question answers itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lioil  [View Original Post]
    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?
    What does it take for a massage therapist to, assuming they don't have a moral problem with doing so, offer extras? The major factor is how they view the rewards vs the potential risks.

    An independent masseuse has some external risk to worry about (LE) but, since she controls things as her own boss, she doesn't have any internal issues.

    A masseuse at a spa where extras are offered is an employee and not the boss. But the fact that management knows what's going on and encourages it means she also doesn't have any internal risks to worry about.

    But Massage Envy is a legit franchise-based business. So any employee-therapist would almost certainly lose their job if they were caught doing extras. And any owner could possibly have their franchise terminated. That's a dramatically different risk-reward calculation.

    Which doesn't mean it's not possible that some random ME therapist might be persuaded to give a HJ at some random point in time. But I wouldn't bank on it as the odds are stacked way against you.

  3. #13730
    Quote Originally Posted by Lioil  [View Original Post]
    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?
    Can confirm, depending on your approach and status in the facility, asking about it could get you 86'd and if you are exceptionally stupid or gross about it the manager will call the cops. Maybe after developing some relationship / rapport you could just end up dating them and go from there.

  4. #13729

    There was a Chinese Massage Envy knockoff in McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by Lioil  [View Original Post]
    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?
    Called Massage Enjoy, about ten years ago. It took a few visits, but I was able to get to BBFS with Wendy, the only therapist who ever worked there.

    I wouldn't try it at the real Massage Envy places, though.

  5. #13728
    Quote Originally Posted by Lioil  [View Original Post]
    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?
    I wouldn't try it, you might end up like the owner of the 9:30 club.

  6. #13727

    Sunstar Spa, Fairfax or Merrifield

    I last visited this place some years back. It was okay, but nothing to write home about. But I decided to check it out today. I was told there was a 10 minute wait, which was acceptable. After a few minutes the provider comes in and takes the fee for a 1 hour massage. She then leaves. When she returned a few minutes later I asked her if she's going to answer the door every time it rings. She said yes and gave me the story that it's this way in every spa. BS. It's only this way where there's no MMS.

    To the provider's credit, she offered to return my. 8. I accepted and left. In case anyone is interested she was attractive, but older. Somewhat north of 50.

    I'm glad I checked the place out, but won't return there.

  7. #13726
    Senior Member


    Posts: 181

    Any luck at massage envy places?

    Any luck at massage envy places? Just kind of curious or one can get into big trouble?

  8. #13725

    DMV Travel

    Quote Originally Posted by SSmith  [View Original Post]
    For those of us in the southern part of Northern Virginia or who don't mind a bit of a drive, Lily at Cicis Oriental massage in Fredericksburg has been worth a couple trips for me. She has a great set of natural D's, is younger (early 30's) and has a cute, bubbly personality to match. I start with a hour long appointment w / TS for. 7. Her massage is a very relaxing, rhythmic medium pressure style that almost puts me to sleep. Hard, Thai massage it is not but that's my preference. On the flip offered. 8 and pointed to my mouth, she agreed but that lasted all of 15 seconds before she finished with a great bouncy standard Nova. On my second trip tried again for a french lesson but she declined b / c of the oil, left. 5 after another nice jiggly Nova ending with lots of nursing. She's here until September.
    I thought I was the only one here with a car! You're right DD Lilly in Fredericksburg is excellent. True Story. My first visit, as I made my approach, "Mom" dropped off the kids to the comic book store next door. After a wonderful visit, on my way out, a Fireman in uniform stopped by to check the wiring.

    Also worth checking out down south is Michelle at Sakura. She provides a excellent "legit" massage as a bonus you're still at a AMP! Michelle splits her time between NY and Virginia.

  9. #13724

    Crystal Spa in Vienna

    Quote Originally Posted by Kijimuna  [View Original Post]
    Not Herndon. It's on Gallows.
    Should this become a FAQ? The last 10 pages have this question and answer repeat. I've even PM the exact address to someone. It's Crystal Spa in Vienna.

  10. #13723

    Eleven 11 Herndon

    Dream in Herndon.

    Good discrete parking. Nice clean place. Tall thin, a cup, mid-30's pretty provider with not much english. Very good table shower. An attempt at the soft tickle massage. I give it a 4 for what it is, but it is not my thing. Early move to the happiness massage that was provided nicely with a very good prostate internal elevator. However, the remaining 30 minutes were the worst massage I have ever had. Pinching, poor hand placement. I mean it was bad.

    Tipped $. 5 due to the internal elevator which was good and should be compensated, but I would never return.

    Last look. On the way out of this dream world, a very pretty, tiny well stacked alternative popped out of the office by the door to say hello. Dam! Where were you 50 minutes ago?

    Ahh now a I am awake.

  11. #13722
    Quote Originally Posted by Sswede  [View Original Post]
    Is this the Crystal in Herndon? Thanks for clarifying!
    Not Herndon. It's on Gallows.

  12. #13721

    Which Crystal is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krakatoa  [View Original Post]
    I went by Crystal early today, hoping for more pleasant surprises. Turns out all their providers are on the rag. LOL!

    Kiki met me at the door. She hadn't even gotten into her outfit yet and excused herself to change. I didn't see the point until she came back in in the black outfit that a previous poster mentioned. Wow! What a beauty!

    I administered a little massage. Negotiations for the few remaining options were getting tedious--she's not one to be reasoned with--so I settled for a HJ. Unfortunately she doesn't like those awesome titties sucked on. So, not the session I was hoping for, but by the end her pro personality was coming out. She was getting flirtatious and urging me to come back next week for the full treatment, which I undoubtedly will. I'm a sucker for beautiful Chinese girls.

    (Re "girls": legal age, of course. No worries, Unc.).

    K.
    Is this the Crystal in Herndon? Thanks for clarifying!

  13. #13720

    Come back next week

    I went by Crystal early today, hoping for more pleasant surprises. Turns out all their providers are on the rag. LOL!

    Kiki met me at the door. She hadn't even gotten into her outfit yet and excused herself to change. I didn't see the point until she came back in in the black outfit that a previous poster mentioned. Wow! What a beauty!

    I administered a little massage. Negotiations for the few remaining options were getting tedious--she's not one to be reasoned with--so I settled for a HJ. Unfortunately she doesn't like those awesome titties sucked on. So, not the session I was hoping for, but by the end her pro personality was coming out. She was getting flirtatious and urging me to come back next week for the full treatment, which I undoubtedly will. I'm a sucker for beautiful Chinese girls.

    (Re "girls": legal age, of course. No worries, Unc.).

    K.

  14. #13719

    Visiting NOVA

    Can you guys suggest a good place near Dulles Airport? Have one hour to burn before I pick up a friend from the airport. Is YAMS a good choice in Chantily?

  15. #13718
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1833

    A different (better) experience with Minnie

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankDigitola  [View Original Post]
    Yeah. So wild. I had 0 intentions of banging. But the ridiculous up charge forced me to ask out of curiosity. I honestly thought she was going to say 300-350, but then she said 500 and that was seriously LOL inducing. I'm not a FS brah. Getting a relaxing massage and then being rushed through a <10 minute pounding isn't my idea of relaxation. But if I was a FS brah, I can't imagine a scenario where I'd pay something like that to smash. GPS is right. If one of the Thai legends was doing a pre retirement, FS, farewell tour, okay. I can understand a higher asking price (but not 500). If the girl was a 20 something glow princess with a crazy body and a good attitude, then sure. But a 40 something glowless unknown? That's not it chief.

    Frankie.
    So, I was trying to schedule with another masseuse (who turned out to be unavailable) and was offered a session with Minnie. For me one of the primary requirements is getting a good massage and, when I asked about that, I was assured that Minnie was good in that department.

    I was aware of Frankie's post but the provider who connected me to Minnie is a trusted friend so I decided to go with the flow and schedule an appt. I figured that if I got a decent massage, and a little extra, I would be a happy enough camper. And I also resolved to think with the big head and not overpay.

    When I met Minnie I was pleasantly surprised by her appearance. She has a curvy-athletic body and an attractive face that has an exotic look as though she might be Thai mixed with something else. She had a good attitude with me so I just got on the table and let her go to work. I'd rate her massage in the upper half of the Thai masseuses I've seen. By way of reference, not as good as KK or Nalee but better than Nikki.

    We chatted away (her English is above average) and I learned that she's new to this, is only in VA for a short visit (but might return), and her family in Thailand has some pressing needs that she's trying to help with. I have no way of verifying any of this but I generally have a pretty good BS-o-meter and the way the conversation went it had a genuine vibe.

    When the flip time came I was expecting a hard upsell but surprisingly it didn't happen. Things moved along smoothly and I simply assured her that I would tip her well because I enjoyed her massage and would certainly schedule repeat visits. Not sure why my session was so different from Frankie's. Maybe it's a case of extreme YMMV, or maybe she's so new to this that she's evolving as she learns, or maybe her experience with Frankie taught her a lesson? Whatever the case, I was thoroughly satisfied. I'm reluctant to give more details because I don't want to mislead or raise expectations that might not be fulfilled. The best I can do is say I paid a bit more than I've paid for other Thai providers, but not excessively so. And I can further attest that Minnie has a wonderful set of full C / D teddies and an exotic tattoo covering her entire back.

    There are certainly some Thai providers who have full-on GPS, such as Nadia and Alice (aka Rose, aka Vivian) and are only about the $, but I would not put Minnie in that category. As always, YMMV, and all I can do is post about my personal experience, which was a good one, and about which I'm still smiling as I think about it.

    Crazy hobby this, eh?

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