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  1. #18136

    Independent v AMP

    Having an odd amount of free time recently I found myself in NVa and had a visit with KK and a visit a first time visit to Blue Ocean. Doing nearly back to back visits really brought of the differences in the experiences. Enough has been written KK but sufficient to say every muscle group is worked and stretched professionally. Ending is basic though. At BO I met Mimi. I'm guessing she is late 30's / early 40's. Small / medium build with lovely long black hair. She worked the muscles around the shoulders but overall it was much more on a rubbing than a stretching. Of course just for half way through the lights drop and an enhanced NVa ending with the suggestion that more might be available next time (but who hasn't heard that before? Both visits masks, temperatures checks and enhanced cleaning were present. It will be nice when COVID-19 is a memory. Until then, stay safe all.

  2. #18135

    KK and a great March massage visit

    I've seen KK for a number of years.

    For whatever reason, today's visit was particularly relaxing and enjoyable.
    Perhaps the early Spring weather had everyone in a best-mood.
    More conversation. More flirting. Great massage. Great massage experience.
    For those who only want spinners, KK is not going to float your boat.
    For those who want a great massage experience -- KK's massage is superb.
    Her ads include prices and what she does not do -- tips are welcome.

    Always be nice to the ladies.
    PA.

  3. #18134
    Quote Originally Posted by Life410  [View Original Post]
    I Don't understand what the $20 premium at BG is for since they no longer show faces. Never been to BG as it stands. But how are they getting away with a price premium considering Edens, ST, and DiscreetTempus exist? LOL.
    It's whatever the market will bear. Seems like national FS agencies have gone from $300 to $340-360 range sometime around FOSTA and it's stuck.

  4. #18133

    BG $20 Premium

    Quote Originally Posted by VistaPrivada  [View Original Post]
    Was curious about Kat from BG, and hadn't seen any reports on her, so decided to TOFTT. She's really pretty (really pretty face), and I'd say better looking than in her photos. She looks latin on the site, but is actually b / w mix. Tits are kind of small but a nice booty. She's very friendly, with a relaxed and chill vibe. Overall had a pretty good dream. She gave a nice NOVA, and was happy to let me explore. Probably wouldn't repeat, but that's just me. A good number of girls on the PV side at least give the illusion that they're into it, and that counts for a lot. Didn't get that impression with Kat, but we just might not have clicked. No complaints about the visit though, give her a try, YMMV.
    I Don't understand what the $20 premium at BG is for since they no longer show faces. Never been to BG as it stands. But how are they getting away with a price premium considering Edens, ST, and DiscreetTempus exist? LOL.

  5. #18132
    Quote Originally Posted by DoYouKnow  [View Original Post]
    https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/be...0/9733466.html

    Cherry. Great location, really clean and one of the best atmosphere outside of the a real Asian spa and / or AMP you can ask for. Candles, music and such a professional and strong massage bench I make it to her weekly. The massage and the eye candy is simply perfect. Great body, if she is wearing that Red body dress, you will be hooked. She always have me mesmerize. Great personality and fun to talk with. She is worth her wait in gold. Money well spent. There is no way you could not like her. She makes the competition hard. Great rate, don't haggle at all over money and take care of her and she will take care of you. Can't lose this one, so gents, treat here nice. Grown folks doing grown folks things. I say no more. I am not often impressed but she got me. Keep it safe.
    What services were provided and what was the damage?

  6. #18131
    Quote Originally Posted by FreddieVenus  [View Original Post]
    I had a dream with Jessie at ST some time ago based on what I saw as positive reviews here. For me, she is attractive but seemed totally bored. I didn't go for FS, and it wasn't offered. I even had to ask for top to come off during my handshake. Is this par for the course with her, and people just go because FS is on the table? Curious about others dreams with her.
    Your mileage will very. It's PV. Once girls have their regulars and favorites you will not easily make the cut for certain things in my experiences. Plus extras will very from guy to guy options wise and / or up sell wise.

    I didn't have a good time with Courtney many-many months ago and I saw her 7-8 times back in the day and services declined from standard to not worth the effort. I got the message that she didn't need me to see her as I was extra money. And I wasn't willing to build rapport in my case.

    No guarantees in PV world and that answers the question. End of story for the PV world in general.

  7. #18130

    Now she is a jewel

    https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/be...0/9733466.html

    Cherry. Great location, really clean and one of the best atmosphere outside of the a real Asian spa and / or AMP you can ask for. Candles, music and such a professional and strong massage bench I make it to her weekly. The massage and the eye candy is simply perfect. Great body, if she is wearing that Red body dress, you will be hooked. She always have me mesmerize. Great personality and fun to talk with. She is worth her wait in gold. Money well spent. There is no way you could not like her. She makes the competition hard. Great rate, don't haggle at all over money and take care of her and she will take care of you. Can't lose this one, so gents, treat here nice. Grown folks doing grown folks things. I say no more. I am not often impressed but she got me. Keep it safe.

  8. #18129

    ST Jessie

    I had a dream with Jessie at ST some time ago based on what I saw as positive reviews here. For me, she is attractive but seemed totally bored. I didn't go for FS, and it wasn't offered. I even had to ask for top to come off during my handshake. Is this par for the course with her, and people just go because FS is on the table? Curious about others dreams with her.

  9. #18128

    BG Kat

    Was curious about Kat from BG, and hadn't seen any reports on her, so decided to TOFTT. She's really pretty (really pretty face), and I'd say better looking than in her photos. She looks latin on the site, but is actually b / w mix. Tits are kind of small but a nice booty. She's very friendly, with a relaxed and chill vibe. Overall had a pretty good dream. She gave a nice NOVA, and was happy to let me explore. Probably wouldn't repeat, but that's just me. A good number of girls on the PV side at least give the illusion that they're into it, and that counts for a lot. Didn't get that impression with Kat, but we just might not have clicked. No complaints about the visit though, give her a try, YMMV.

  10. #18127
    Quote Originally Posted by GilBang  [View Original Post]
    Although I haven't seen KK or Tara, I agree on the indy tipping. I usually do not add on top of the set rate and as a regular you could be grandfathered on rates. As always, your treatment of the ladies will reward you in future visits.
    I think the issue is with KK, she never got nude for me and the $120 should suffice for the massage and HE. With Tara, if the clothes come off and there is additional play, than I definitely tip for that. Probably an extra $40.

  11. #18126
    Quote Originally Posted by TimoS80  [View Original Post]
    The famed Eva actually works (maybe runs) here. Last visit here was December. I usually get a CBJ and CFS for 160. Once, I didn't bring a rubber and she let me BBFS. Of course, I'm her regular and only see her at this place. So YMMV.
    I think I saw Nashi a couple of weeks ago. I thought she said Nancy? As you said a mediocre massage. I asked for a BJ, and she did the Saran Wrap thing. I thought kind of toothy, not good and wouldn't repeat.

  12. #18125
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    Without knowing specific names, I can't speak to any of the friends, but, IME, KK herself is still sticking to 120/ hr for massage and clothed HJ.

    Even for the masseuses she knows and schedules appointments for, KK leaves the pricing up to them. One of her friends, Lucy, started charging more than I thought was fair and I specifically mentioned it to KK. She said when she helps out with either a referral or providing a massage room, the other masseuses give KK a portion of the base fee. Other than that, the friends are free to charge what they want.

    Obviously some Thai masseuses get GPS, others may charge more tips than what's been charged in the past, and others are keeping to the same pricing they've had for years. I would put Tara and KK in that last group.
    I recently saw Cherry, and put her in that GPS category. I will write a more detailed review when I have more time. I'm actually wondering if I actually saw Cherry or a sub, but will discuss when I write the review.

  13. #18124
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    In one of your previous posts, you mentioned scheduling with one Thai provider but, because she was busy, she recommended her friend. You went through with the session, and got the extras, but then you said you didn't tip because of the switch. No matter what you might have thought, I'm sure she expected a tip.

    Then your first post about Tara mentioned a very low tip (20) for the services received. Your second post about Tara mentioned 30 for a haircut, 120 for the massage, and only 30 tip for extras that went quite a bit beyond just a HJ. Tara might have been too polite to ask for more, but every provider and experienced monger knows what amounts are fair.

    You can handle your business however you want, but most of the Thai masseuses know each other and word gets around as to which clients are decent tippers and which are not. Tara and KK talk often and refer clients to one another so it wouldn't surprise me if you were the topic of one of those discussions.

    I've known KK for almost 10 years, and she is not an upsell artist. Hell, I've received extra time on many occasions out of appreciation for being a good regular. I wasn't in the room, so I have no idea how things went down. Just throwing in my two-cents worth from my extensive experience with KK. And, since her ad still says 120/ hr, that's the price I certainly expect to pay for the basics. Appropriate tip extra, of course.
    I have known KK for probably at least 12 years and never had her ask for an up charge when I was seeing her going back to the basement in the house near Fairfax Hospital that she shared with Zaza. But too be honest, I have not seen her in several years, since I live too far from her now. I have also seen Tara and tipped her as she provides a bit more activity, but still limited. Both give great massages and are nice ladies.

  14. #18123

    Arlington -vs- Burke

    So, I tried Sun Day Massage in Arlington recently, especially since another site said to go there and see Wendy. I saw Wendy and she gave a somewhat decent (6 on a scale of 1-10) massage, but nothing more than a basic massage.

    Afterwards, I tried Asian Massage on Lee Hwy. Sofia no longer works there. The 1/2 hour massage I got was the worst expense of $40 ever. No oil, only pushing body parts for 30 minutes and then time was up and it was time to go. Wasn't even a quality nor therapeutic massage.

    Then went to Burke and there was a Garden there that looked beautiful, so I stopped in for 30 minutes and it was better than 30 or 60 min massages I've had anywhere else! This massage was a 9. 5 on a scale of 10! Great use of forearms and elbows to work knots out. Lots of great oil to make the massage rubbing work well. My therapist had a great attitude, never even discussed tips! She seriously gave one of the best massages ever and left me leaving with a big smile on my face! Highly recommend!

  15. #18122
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongeroose  [View Original Post]
    Interesting to read the range of tipping philosophies. I would never tell another person how to spend their money. In my case, I do not tip independents since they set their own rates. On the flip side, I also never try to negotiate them down. On the rare occasion that she wants to negotiate for extras, I consider the options and choose. Following this approach, I have never had trouble booking repeat visits with KK, Tara, and many others, nor trouble getting the same services I see reviewed here from the same providers. To each their own though.
    Although I haven't seen KK or Tara, I agree on the indy tipping. I usually do not add on top of the set rate and as a regular you could be grandfathered on rates. As always, your treatment of the ladies will reward you in future visits.

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