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  1. #5236

    Love it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zom289  [View Original Post]
    "I feel I have received better service by not always trying to save a nickel".

    You feel that way but the reality is, it doesn't matter if you spend more, more doesnt always mean better, its a hit or miss across all price point, it's all marketing, I've dabbled in high ends countless of times and took me a while to realize you can get the same at low end,such. Why throw extra Benjamin's in the toilet? But like you said to each their own.

    I lost count the amount of times I did 3 plus Benjamin's, 6 plus Benjamin's and instead catfished or rushed out or had really bad service, I was like you thinking , giving more will be better. I've had multiple for 100 coins the past week and these same girls will want 160 coins from other clueless guys. And they give me the same or very good experience as the 160, and not only that I get the same time as they got. Ive already walked out on plenty of fake pictures that wanted 180 200 etc. because Ive seen better looking for less that will give the same experience. it's equivalent to a flea market, and that's how everyone should treat it, spending more for an item at a flea market when later that day they will give the same product it to another guy for way less. At least 80% of them dont care about your experience even if you give them more, especially if you don't have the looks.
    Zom thank you for this experience and wisdom shared. Back in the day, having mongered between Indy agencies and independent providers, I experienced all you mentioned. Nothing better than OJT mongering! With agencies it was simple. You knew the rate, the level of service expected and to not get catfished. With independents it was a little different but with experience vetting these providers, you start to feel more confident and better about the value your getting. There is no shame or harm in haggling with a provider if its done professionally esp. If they don't advertise no haggling or firm on price. What is interesting and I've tried this, I started showing up to these providers incalls haggling a little. They wanted 200 hr and I would say I have 150 or 180. Just depends on the chemistry and vibe I was getting. I did this 1 month straight. I got push back, even asked to leave, flat nope. Now, patience and timing are everything to reference your flea market experience. You don't know where that provider's head space is at the present moment. They may have deadlines, priorities to meet etc. And will accept your offer. I walked away on a few kicking myself why I didn't just pay the 200 as I saw the provider worth the coin. But there were plenty of examples where it worked and we agreed on the 150 or 180. This also shows the provider you have self-worth, business minded and monger savviness.

  2. #5235

    Well thought out

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxManners  [View Original Post]
    There are many models who are with pimps in Miami Florida, (but there are many independent girls working in their much more private apartment and I think that is worth enjoying!) - In hotels there are many risks (police, pimps who rob you and Add to that people selling drugs! I always pay between a quick of 20 minutes 100 or Hahr 120 or hr. 150 depending on each model I also pay up to 200 per hr. I don't pay more than those amounts! And it always went well for me, I don't look for discounts either because Cheap is often expensive. But there are also women who believe that because they are very pretty, they want to charge you more and some of them don't even have any papers in this country! Come on, gentlemen, let's not let ourselves be scammed! Go for insurance, there are many girls who do. They are worth it (not everyone works the same, not everyone lives here! I hire services that are worth it, but first I speak very well, and I always reach a good agreement!
    I like your thought process here and the value has to be there. In the past with an established agency, it was an easy process of getting quality. You knew ahead what the rates were and that the girl wasn't a catfish. That was half the battle. Then you show up and if it doesn't feel right I. E they are pushy, rushing, not being friendly my guard goes up. Is there a lack of chemistry? I know this stuff seems straight forward but when I read about mongers negative experiences I doubt they are doing their due diligence in the vetting process. We work hard for our money! Its not that difficult to take the same approach e. G shopping around for a good deal on a car, house, suit etc. And apply it to our mongering strategy. Now the irony is we do this naturally when go on first, 2nd dates with a potential GF. Am I getting good vibes from this chick? Is she paying attention to me or her phone, looking away etc. ? Back to vetting your potential dates. In the end, you can always walk away and / or pay their stupid cancel fee if necessary. The process is not easy or simple until you have mongered enough and gotten your reps in applying this strategy. I say all this humbly speaking because its never always 100% perfect. You still have your dates that start off well but then something happens that makes the date go south or just not end the way you hoped but I can honestly say with this strategy that would be 1 or 2 bad dates out of 20. I like those odds.

  3. #5234
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveFun999  [View Original Post]
    Any girls in Miami offer CIP? DM me if you know anyone. Thanks.
    some do but you have to know them, they won't just tell you straight up. Or they have to think that you never or barely seen anyor that your only seeing her.. You have to establish your a safe guy to them in there head. Show them recent tests is another way while offering a little more, theres different stuff you can do... happen before, 120 coins 2nd visit. Many dudes will think they have to drop 400 or something. I don't reccomend doing it because you never know, and if they offer it to you very easy like 1st visit, that means they dont care about their health and you should avoid.. ask your doc for the meds too Incase you plan days before..

  4. #5233
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxManners  [View Original Post]
    There are many models who are with pimps in Miami Florida, (but there are many independent girls working in their much more private apartment and I think that is worth enjoying!) - In hotels there are many risks (police, pimps who rob you and Add to that people selling drugs! I always pay between a quick of 20 minutes 100 or Hahr 120 or hr. 150 depending on each model I also pay up to 200 per hr. I don't pay more than those amounts! And it always went well for me, I don't look for discounts either because Cheap is often expensive. But there are also women who believe that because they are very pretty, they want to charge you more and some of them don't even have any papers in this country! Come on, gentlemen, let's not let ourselves be scammed! Go for insurance, there are many girls who do. They are worth it (not everyone works the same, not everyone lives here! I hire services that are worth it, but first I speak very well, and I always reach a good agreement!
    Good comment, these guys is what ruined the market and caused so much GPS. Sometimes woman expect these crazy rates while the same day giving it to another guy for way less. I call these dudes that pay these crazy rates foot worshippers, woman know there's some wealthy loser foot worshipper that thinks more is better that will give in to their crazy rates couple times a day.. They think every girl is innocent and desrves everything, they want to be noticed so bad but they really have no clue…. when you wonder why woman have GPS, it's guys like that.

  5. #5232

    Here for work

    Here a lot often for work where can I get to enjoy myself with a saw AMP or even home provided close to Opa Locka feel free to dm me.

  6. #5231

    Loss cause

    Try set up date multiple times I even handed her on snap and we did the verification and all then she would tell me she is in Cutler bay then crickets. And looking at her Instagram post she used a lot of filter that's not how she really looks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billll  [View Original Post]
    I've been trying to find a review and so far no luck. I've searched the Miami, West Palm, and Phoenix boards but no luck.

  7. #5230
    Quote Originally Posted by JackStraw694U  [View Original Post]
    While I appreciate your comments, my point was more so that the agency had changed, not the typical price. I can negotiate pricing and get cheaper service, but the money is not my great motivator. I have enjoyed some incredible sessions with a few of the girls where anything I wanted was on the table, though I did not try to beat them up over $50. While nobody wants to be taken advantage of financially, I feel I have received better service by not always trying to save a nickel. To each their own.
    There are many models who are with pimps in Miami Florida, (but there are many independent girls working in their much more private apartment and I think that is worth enjoying!) - In hotels there are many risks (police, pimps who rob you and Add to that people selling drugs! I always pay between a quick of 20 minutes 100 or Hahr 120 or hr. 150 depending on each model I also pay up to 200 per hr. I don't pay more than those amounts! And it always went well for me, I don't look for discounts either because Cheap is often expensive. But there are also women who believe that because they are very pretty, they want to charge you more and some of them don't even have any papers in this country! Come on, gentlemen, let's not let ourselves be scammed! Go for insurance, there are many girls who do. They are worth it (not everyone works the same, not everyone lives here! I hire services that are worth it, but first I speak very well, and I always reach a good agreement!

  8. #5229

    Haven't found

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleak503  [View Original Post]
    I've been trying to find a review and so far no luck. I've searched the Miami, West Palm, and Phoenix boards but no luck.

  9. #5228
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveFun999  [View Original Post]
    Any girls in Miami offer CIP? DM me if you know anyone. Thanks.
    A suggestion. Post some experiences where you share some intel on the kitty. Then you may find someone who will DM you.

    LM.

  10. #5227
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyDirty1  [View Original Post]
    https://preferred411.com/P254328

    She was on Indie before it shut down and now doesn't advertise much. She is not newbie friendly, so come with 2 reputable references.

    She is a great date. Very pretty girl and her body is slim thick. Not skinny, not big, just right. Her performance is amazing and most importantly, she is a down to earth friendly woman.

    2 thumbs up.
    400. An hour, huh.

  11. #5226
    Any girls in Miami offer CIP? DM me if you know anyone. Thanks.

  12. #5225
    Quote Originally Posted by JackStraw694U  [View Original Post]
    While I appreciate your comments, my point was more so that the agency had changed, not the typical price. I can negotiate pricing and get cheaper service, but the money is not my great motivator. I have enjoyed some incredible sessions with a few of the girls where anything I wanted was on the table, though I did not try to beat them up over $50. While nobody wants to be taken advantage of financially, I feel I have received better service by not always trying to save a nickel. To each their own.
    "I feel I have received better service by not always trying to save a nickel".

    You feel that way but the reality is, it doesn't matter if you spend more, more doesnt always mean better, its a hit or miss across all price point, it's all marketing, I've dabbled in high ends countless of times and took me a while to realize you can get the same at low end,such. Why throw extra Benjamin's in the toilet? But like you said to each their own.

    I lost count the amount of times I did 3 plus Benjamin's, 6 plus Benjamin's and instead catfished or rushed out or had really bad service, I was like you thinking , giving more will be better. I've had multiple for 100 coins the past week and these same girls will want 160 coins from other clueless guys. And they give me the same or very good experience as the 160, and not only that I get the same time as they got. Ive already walked out on plenty of fake pictures that wanted 180 200 etc. because Ive seen better looking for less that will give the same experience. it's equivalent to a flea market, and that's how everyone should treat it, spending more for an item at a flea market when later that day they will give the same product it to another guy for way less. At least 80% of them dont care about your experience even if you give them more, especially if you dont have the looks.

  13. #5224

    Amanda Faye. Awesome

    https://preferred411.com/P254328

    She was on Indie before it shut down and now doesn't advertise much. She is not newbie friendly, so come with 2 reputable references.

    She is a great date. Very pretty girl and her body is slim thick. Not skinny, not big, just right. Her performance is amazing and most importantly, she is a down to earth friendly woman.

    2 thumbs up.

  14. #5223
    Quote Originally Posted by Zom289  [View Original Post]
    They are not 250 with some people. It's 200hh FS all the time. It's because they only get 120 and 70 goes to the top dogs, so they will hustle you if you don't negotiate so they can make themsleves some more. They can do 300 with one person and the next person that comes in 200. That's how the game is, it's a hustle,. Many other girls do the same thing. They will advertise on one website charging 600 or 300. But on LC they will do 160. That's why your suppose to always negotiate and don't present yourself like your some rich guy or pull-up on expensive cars. Take my advice and you'd save a lot 😉. Also some of them from that agency you will find them on other websites in the past doing way less at some motel.


    Also another tip for new people. QV and HH tend to be the same thing in most cases(not all). Majority of people always last 15 mins or less in HH sessions. Now when you do QV sessions it will be exactly the same as HH majority of the time. Theres lots of times where hh sessions are rushed, and QV would have been the exact same, im pretty sure the ones long enough in the game might know this .
    While I appreciate your comments, my point was more so that the agency had changed, not the typical price. I can negotiate pricing and get cheaper service, but the money is not my great motivator. I have enjoyed some incredible sessions with a few of the girls where anything I wanted was on the table, though I did not try to beat them up over $50. While nobody wants to be taken advantage of financially, I feel I have received better service by not always trying to save a nickel. To each their own.

  15. #5222
    Quote Originally Posted by Zom289  [View Original Post]
    They are not 250 with some people. It's 200hh FS all the time. It's because they only get 120 and 70 goes to the top dogs, so they will hustle you if you don't negotiate so they can make themsleves some more. They can do 300 with one person and the next person that comes in 200. That's how the game is, it's a hustle,. Many other girls do the same thing. They will advertise on one website charging 600 or 300. But on LC they will do 160. That's why your suppose to always negotiate and don't present yourself like your some rich guy or pull-up on expensive cars. Take my advice and you'd save a lot 😉. Also some of them from that agency you will find them on other websites in the past doing way less at some motel.


    Also another tip for new people. QV and HH tend to be the same thing in most cases(not all). Majority of people always last 15 mins or less in HH sessions. Now when you do QV sessions it will be exactly the same as HH majority of the time. Theres lots of times where hh sessions are rushed, and QV would have been the exact same, im pretty sure the ones long enough in the game might know this .
    I wouldn't even recommend 888, they have beautiful women but they try to always charge to much if you don't negotiate and they're a bit like starfish and depending who you get.

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