Massage Parlor Reports

[Zappa3]

That's strange. For a ver brief time Phoenix was just to the East of of JHH. Before that they were on West Road in Towson, close to Kenilworth. At least they don't advertise that they employ Miss Singapore. I don't think this was a coincidence. I wonder if she must be reading reviews? I know some of them do and others are just clueless. After my first visit to Beauty Island which was just North of Seminary on York Road. The MT there emplored me not review her. She said, No internet, no talk while she was typing an imaginary keyboard. She didn't stay there too long, less than a year. That was a shame because she gave the best, most theraputic, and thorough massage that I've ever had. If your out there, I miss you Amy aka Li Li.

I swung by JHH this morning at 5am for my usual service. I talked to mamasan and she told me that they have no other locations and the other location is FAKE and PRETENDING to be associated with them. After further investigation on my part this morning, I also noticed that the number posted for JHH x2 is the same number as Phoenix as you noted. I called the number and the person that answered said Phoenix Spa. LOL. I'll swing by later today to see to make sure by making an appointment.

On another note, I swung by Pine Tree yesterday to see how much (if any, it has changed since I haven't been there since last summer). It has gone down hill! I had a Chinese girl named MeMe service me. I had the massage and TS. The rate was still the same. 7. When the BBJS came up, she tried to offer me this for. 4,1. 0 if she will be naked, and 2. 0 for FS. This was a rip off! I kindly declined this. Her looks was a 4. Her massage needs alot of work. I would not recommend anyone going back to Pine Tree.

[The NewGuy]

Recon update. I just got back from JHHx2 on Belair Road.

It is still the same Phoenix Spa. I went there and they had a girl that was about mid to late 30s working. I would probably rate her a 3. I asked if other girls were working and she said just her. I called their number again and asked if Cindy was working (I have had her in the past). They told me to wait for her for 5 mins. Turns out the girl answering the calls is also Cindy. She is now taking over the business on her own. Cindy is a 5. Her massage was a 10 which made up for it. She charged me the usual. 5 for the massage. Since I have had a history with her, she knew I like to have a shower which she gave me one. They do not have a TS but a standing tub. She gave me one and joined me. We then went to the room where I received FS for 1. 0 and then the massage with a HJ afterwards. She gave me extra attention and was very playful. It was good price since for 1. 75hrs (rather than 1hr. Checked my watch before starting everything). I gave her 1. 5 (included tip since she never asked for anything more ever with me for this type of service). In the past for this service, it would only be an hour long not 1. 75 hrs. All in all, I would come back again just for her.

While getting dressed, I had talked to her about the sign in the window. She asked me if I liked the name that she came up with. I pointed out to her that there was another establishment in the area with the same name. She tried to play dumb and tried to ask more details about it. I told her that the other place has been there for quite sometime and that they would probably not appreciate her advertising that she was them. She thank me for the advice and asked if I knew of any other good names. I told her not off the top of my head. She helped me get dressed and then even started giving me a BJ (was very suprised since she gave this freely and without even using plastic / protection like she aways did in the past) and said thank you again for letting her know that there was another place with that name. She said she would tell the owners (even though I knew she was the one handling everything now since while I had the massage a call came and she stood outside the door to take it about another person coming).

I guess we'll see if the sign comes down or what. So I made out nicely today for 1. 75 hrs at the rate of 1. 5.

[The NewGuy]

I swung by JHH this morning at 5am for my usual service. I talked to mamasan and she told me that they have no other locations and the other location is FAKE and PRETENDING to be associated with them. After further investigation on my part this morning, I also noticed that the number posted for JHH x2 is the same number as Phoenix as you noted. I called the number and the person that answered said Phoenix Spa. LOL. I'll swing by later today to see to make sure by making an appointment.

On another note, I swung by Pine Tree yesterday to see how much (if any, it has changed since I haven't been there since last summer). It has gone down hill! I had a Chinese girl named MeMe service me. I had the massage and TS. The rate was still the same. 7. When the BBJS came up, she tried to offer me this for. 4,1. 0 if she will be naked, and 2. 0 for FS. This was a rip off! I kindly declined this. Her looks was a 4. Her massage needs alot of work. I would not recommend anyone going back to Pine Tree.

Fair point. But I was suggesting that someone may want to pass this along to the mamasan. IMHO, more than one or two of the mongers on this board know mamasan fairly well. Good enough to have a conversation.

By the way, I was out doing errands and swung by for a little outside recon. The sign also posted digits. They were the same as Phoenix. If this turns out to be JHH East, great! As long as the talent is on par. But I have a feeling that something is not right here.

Funds are a little tight, but I might try and TOFTT next weekend to get indoor intel. Not sure if I really want to waste the $ when I can just go to JHH North.

Butter Dog

[Butter Dog]

Most of the MTs there have really poor english skills and probably would not understand the question.

Fair point. But I was suggesting that someone may want to pass this along to the mamasan. IMHO, more than one or two of the mongers on this board know mamasan fairly well. Good enough to have a conversation.

By the way, I was out doing errands and swung by for a little outside recon. The sign also posted digits. They were the same as Phoenix. If this turns out to be JHH East, great! As long as the talent is on par. But I have a feeling that something is not right here.

Funds are a little tight, but I might try and TOFTT next weekend to get indoor intel. Not sure if I really want to waste the $ when I can just go to JHH North.

Butter Dog

[Zappa3]

Possibly mamasan may be able to understand this question. Most of the MTs there have really poor english skills and probably would not understand the question. A while back there was another AMP that opened up just a couple houses to the east. I don't like to park in their lot so on my walk to jhh I passed by the new place and noticed a used raincoat right outside on the sidewalk. Because I know how jhh operates, I knew it wasn't from them. I wanted to let them know about their new neighbor and see what they thought about a competitor opening up so close by. She had no idea what I was trying to say. I gave it up after it appeared futile.

I was driving home tonight along Belair Road in Overlea and had to do a double take, because up in the second floor window was a blue sign that read 'Jade Heart Health' (at least I thought that it did, but further research on EMP confirms it). My first thought was, did they move, again? Or did they open a second location on the East Side?

The location is 6401, which appears to be used for Pamper and Phoenix (?). Tough to tell what's going on here. Franchise? False advertising and taking advantage of a well established establishment?

Anyone else out there see this or hear about it? Someone may want to mention this to the home base on E. Joppa.

Butter Dog

[Blkninj01]

I just found my old pen camera so I may actually post some of my AMP experiences. I have to find a way to do it with out causing problems for the places or the girls so I am going to work on it and probably give vague info on the spot the footage is from. Just some food for thought. Today is a good day for a massage so I think I may take a visit to the grand reopening of one of my spots. Will give a report on it later.

[Butter Dog]

I was driving home tonight along Belair Road in Overlea and had to do a double take, because up in the second floor window was a blue sign that read 'Jade Heart Health' (at least I thought that it did, but further research on EMP confirms it). My first thought was, did they move, again? Or did they open a second location on the East Side?

The location is 6401, which appears to be used for Pamper and Phoenix (?). Tough to tell what's going on here. Franchise? False advertising and taking advantage of a well established establishment?

Anyone else out there see this or hear about it? Someone may want to mention this to the home base on E. Joppa.

Butter Dog

[AznFasinazn]

There is no reason to throw the "BS Flag".

Every word was accurate.

I'm glad others have had better experiences there, but that was mine, and it was horrible.

I really did not know do that much wrong.

Both Mamasans and Kim had bad attitudes from the start!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Lily's (location, staff, or mamasan) , it is a good location for people who can treat people like human beings.

Not sure where OP is from, but things obviously work differently here.

[Foxfax]

Was in town again, and asked to meet with Lucy. I got caught in traffic, and had to delay half an hour, but they were fine with the delay. Once I was inside we took care of business and then we went to massage room. She does a better job of massage then some of the other girls there. When it was time for the real fun to begin, there were no disappointments for either of us. She said she was heading back to NY next week, and when I visited she'd take me out for Chinese food. I think she says that to all her clients to create personal rapport, but it's still nice to hear. I hope they are able to stay in business for awhile. In support of that I'm not going to be detailed with these reports, but if you go you will not be disappointed.

[Ginger Man]

"Anyways, Drofnalb is dead and being reborn in a new format. It appears that the sex industry (even in this backwards country) is evolving by the minute and I am finding newer tools that are more effective and more ethical at my disposal. It has been fun, but the time has come to retire my AMP keys for greener pastures.

Thanks for hearing me out."

James Dean, James Dean

I know just what you mean

James Dean, James Dean.

You said it all so clean

You were too fast to live, too young to die, bye-bye

[Gregster]

Have not had the opportunity to participate in this hobby over the past year or so, but this past Tuesday afforded me the opportunity to stop by Moonlight for a visit.

Mamasan was on the phone when I arrived in the little vestibule you first enter. Another monger was approaching, so I stood in clear view of the door in hopes that he would wait outside for a minute until I was escorted back to a room. He came in and waited with me for about a minute. Not cool.

Mamasan came out and started to take me into the hallway, but then my fellow monger decided he wanted to come back at the same time and then start a conversation with Mamasan. Seriously not cool, dude.

Met Jenny for the shower and massage. All items on the menu and a nice time, but it wasn't like the glory days of a few years ago. Nice to see that they got rid of those horrible ceiling tiles in the shower area, as well.

[Nah He]

Mr Drofnalb, Lets see either you are getting married or you have regained the use of your right hand. If you don't mind sharing with the group I promise not to tell anyone. If you don't trust the group you can PM me and your secret will be safe with me.

Nah He.

Anyways, Drofnalb is dead and being reborn in a new format. It appears that the sex industry (even in this backwards country) is evolving by the minute and I am finding newer tools that are more effective and more ethical at my disposal. It has been fun, but the time has come to retire my AMP keys for greener pastures.

Thanks for hearing me out.

[Deldog]

Afternoon lads.

I hit TBC Tuesday afternoon for a bit of fun. Only two Russian girls available. The one who greeted me I had seen before and I asked if anyone else was available. She asked if I knew the name of the girl I wanted to see. I tried to be polite in telling her,"not you". She caved and introduced me to a new girl I have never seen before. Very pretty, petite and from what I could see, a great toned body. Needless to say, a great session and I hope to see her again. Enthuisiastic and fun. Pm for details.

[Zappa3]

I have a little different perspective. Most of the arguments you make are exactly the reasons I would not see an American provider. Besides, asian women just really do it for me, on a physical and mental level. I have the pleasure of working with lots of asian women. They drive me nuts. I should have married one. You are forgetting a couple of things. One, the house fee. Add that to your $. Personally for me, $ is the average tip for average service. If the provider gives above average service, I will gladly give more. Also, these women have very little expenses other than things they want to buy. They aren't staying at a 150. 00 / night hotel or flying about the country. The travel expenses that they have is pretty cheap. Take the Chinese bus back and forth between here and NYC. Don't believe the BS about them practically being slaves. Most do pretty well and can save quite a bit. Believe me, they are using you just as much as you are them. Our puritanical society just wants you to feel guilty about it. Don't.

We drink from the fountain with no concern for people's livelihoods. Everything could improve if we were a little more thoughtful.

The facts:

• We enjoy women who are at a higher quality level than ourselves (looks wise).
  
• These women risk criminal punishment for serving us.
  
• They make themselves available to us day and night.
  
• They often make every effort to be kind and engaging.
  
• They have costs (that are increasing) , from transportation to paperwork to debt.
  
• And the killer is, they work for lower payment than their American counterparts.
  

If you don't feel guilty then you simply have no feelings.

Understand how the economics work:

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1. Once you enter the establishment the clock starts ticking, she has one hour to work for the tip.
   
2. If you do not get services, she has lost opportunity because the time she spent with you could have been spent with another customer.
   
3. And this one kills me, when a customer negociates tip < $100, she hesitantly accepts because of the time factor and doesn't want to have nothing to show for the effort she has invested. But make no mistake, this is an insult.
   

If we had a legal industry this would not be a factor. They could simply put a menu on the wall and there would be no negotiation, if you walked in the door requesting FS, they could say up front $100; if you didn't have the right amount they could say no and nobody would have to waste their time.

Our current system is black market, and we are at an unfair advantage which too many of us abuse.

Ironic how things work, the feminists could not stop me from hobbying, the police could not stop me from hobbying, my family could not stop me from hobbying. In the end it was the injustice of my fellow hobbyist that did it.

Regardless, I hope some of you think about this next time.

Anyways, Drofnalb is dead and being reborn in a new format. It appears that the sex industry (even in this backwards country) is evolving by the minute and I am finding newer tools that are more effective and more ethical at my disposal. It has been fun, but the time has come to retire my AMP keys for greener pastures.

Thanks for hearing me out.

[Butter Dog]

Many of us feel it is our right to get excellent service from Asian women for $100, but are willing to pay $200+ for a much lower quality American woman.

And if you read some of the other boards, many of us are willing to pay $20 for a provider off the w / w loop or some other street action. Some like AMPs, some like CL or BP (and what each offers). Sometimes it just comes down to a matter of taste, and what you are willing to pay, and what the market bears.

Sorry, need a few beers if you need a more philosophical view point.

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