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  1. #9436

    Kieko 10 tenclub

    Best Japanese girl in Manhattan overall for best sensual and high quality passionate GFE / PSE.

    I will probably see her a few times.

    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    PPS recommended this lovely lady to me as I was walking out after my most recent visit. Boy am I glad I came back to see her! Saturday mornings have become my favorite time week LOL. They put up some new pics of Kieko a few days ago and she looks way hotter in them, but these new pics are not accurate. For anyone who saw the original pics, those are much closer to what she actually looks like. One of the old pics is still up on the website (the bottom middle pic) and it depicts her pretty accurately, albeit with some face filter.

    She's a hot skinny J-girl, early 20's with a pretty face. Nice natural Bs with nice nipples and a tight ass. Pussy was shaved with a very small patch of hair above the clit. Website says her height is 5'1 but I think she's probably a few inches taller than that. Not quite a spinner but pretty damn close. Outstanding GFE, just top tier service for a J-girl. It was like I couldn't get away from her for even a moment, she was clinging to me for the whole 45 minutes. Tons of DFK and LFK before, during and after the sex. Very cute, bubbly and friendly personality as well. She has some English and we didn't need to use a translator.

    She greeted me with LFK at the door and helped me undress. We skipped the shower (always my preference when I'm buying less than an hour) and we made out for a good 5 minutes before we moved over to the bed. Laid down on the bed where she climbed on top of me and grinded on my dick while we made out some more. From there she P2P'd the ever living shit out of my dick in CG and RCG. I almost busted my nut right there and had to ask her to slow down. Suffice to say her P2P game was very good, and at one point I thought she might just slip me in raw, but it didn't go quite that far haha.

    Went to 69 next and we stayed there for a while. She gives very good head and her pussy got pretty wet in 69. Gave me a quick BBBJ after 69 before she put the 001 on me and sat on my cock without any lube. Fucked her in CG before we moved into mish where I finished in the bag. Pussy was tight, she was wrapped around me and wouldn't stop kissing me while we were fucking. She let me stay inside her for a few minutes after I busted and we made out some more.

    She cleaned me up very thoroughly afterwards and even somewhat sensually haha. Gently wipped the sweat off my face with a tissue while I laid there totally spent and she cleaned my dick as well. We hit the shower then came back to the room and said an affectionate goodbye. If what Kieko told me is accurate, she will be in NYC until March 21st. I let her know that she hasn't seen the last of me. I would repeat. Damage was $280 for 45 minutes. A good price for a quality J-girl with excellent service.

  2. #9435

    Come and go

    Quote Originally Posted by NightHawk1967  [View Original Post]
    When I really think about it, I don't know if any little fuck hole I've had is really worth more than 3 Bens / hr. That's psychiatrist rates. Maybe I need to talk with one to figure out why I'm dropping so much money on these little fucktoys that be demanding more!
    These girls make more than the average population salary; some of them are buying crazy amounts of properties overseas using this kind of money. And there will always be some peep out there paying these crazy rates. We got no security LOL.

  3. #9434
    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    The more fake pics they post, the riskier our wallet can be on chancing these imposters. Selina NYC only offers 1 pop per 5 ben max which is a flat downer for majority of us MSOG fans. Don't think she chops dynamite for that 5 ben hour man. Even 3 ben hhr prob is too much esp for those that can't pop within hhr without decent GFE vibes.
    When I really think about it, I don't know if any little fuck hole I've had is really worth more than 3 Bens / hr. That's psychiatrist rates. Maybe I need to talk with one to figure out why I'm dropping so much money on these little fucktoys that be demanding more!

  4. #9433

    Economics of Mongering

    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    This is also what it says about her "Selina can only have sex once an hour. " So no MSOG.

    As far as girls in the $500 range and plus it is dependent on salary. I can sit here and honestly say the most expensive girl I've had that I really wanted to repeat were between 320 and 400. All the girls I've seen 3 x in one week fall in this range. I see the hot Euro girls at $600/800 and etc and I don't give and F. I see some Asians at that price and I don't give an F.

    To some degree, I just don't think anyone is worth more than $500 an hour to fuck and the ones that are I do the 45 minutes like I said. But my definition of beauty is not these high priced euro hoes. I'd take the average hot young Korean woman in K-town over them.

    But then again there are people plenty happy with the 80 + 160 walk in places.

    Even if Hitomi came here offering it for 800 hr I wouldn't bother going. Price wise that is 2 sessions and I go 3 or 4 times a week. It is not that much to my wallet. It is just I don't think any pussy is worth that much. I am barely going to remember it a week later.
    I agree that it never really makes sense to spend more than $500 H. Once you go above that you're basically paying for celebrity rather than youth, beauty and service. I've found the sweet spot between price and quality to be about $450 H and that's the price point at which I had my all time favorite girls that I wanted to repeat with.

    Asian women (Japanese especially) are the hottest women on the planet IMO, so I would never bother with these $800 H White hoes when I can fuck young Japanese babes for half the price.

    Personally I wouldn't pay $800 H for Hitomi, but there are other JAV stars I would potentially splurge on if they ever worked in NYC, which they won't.

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    I did not find Ding Ding and now NYCSE Emily attractive at all. Pics and Tiktok were all fake beyond recognition vs real life. It was like seeing an ugly fatter cousin in person.

    $400 is ridiculous.
    Lately I'm seeing a lot of girls priced at $400 H when they shouldn't be. I'm always extra skeptical of the $400 H C-girls in particular. Thanks for the heads up regarding this one. This is why it's essential to read reviews and always be willing to walk.

    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    In terms of market economy, IMHO any price tag over 3 ben should include msog cas VIP standards in reg shops offers 2-2. 2 ben for whole package with msog inclusive although not much GFE or not much kissing. Price for quality but most don't screen the standards LOL.
    I agree that it should be this way, but it's just not, and it is only going to get worse IMO. I think we are already seeing it happen, especially with the J-girls. They are starting to better understand their market here and exercise more control / power within it. We are seeing more $400 h girls and more 1 pop ladies at $380 H and up. More filtering for big dicks and non-gentle fuckers going on at Japanese shops. Now we even have a J-girl at NYCSE who will only see Asians. And of course we pay them GFE rates but rarely ever get GFE service.

    I think there is an obvious explanation for this. In the past they had no choice but to come here for work because all the soaplands in Japan were closed. Now Japan is open again, and they are coming here simply because they can make more $ working in the US than they would working in Japan. They're not desperate for the business like they were before when this was the only market. They have the option to work in Japan again, and so they are putting the squeeze on the foreign customers, being even more selective, making up their own rules and trying to get the most of their market in the US for the least amount of work.

    I anticipate that they will continue push the boundaries as far as possible and if it does reach a point where they can't get what they want from the NYC market, they will simply stop coming here for work.

  5. #9432

    Kieko at 10 TC. Hot young J-girl with C-girl service

    PPS recommended this lovely lady to me as I was walking out after my most recent visit. Boy am I glad I came back to see her! Saturday mornings have become my favorite time week LOL. They put up some new pics of Kieko a few days ago and she looks way hotter in them, but these new pics are not accurate. For anyone who saw the original pics, those are much closer to what she actually looks like. One of the old pics is still up on the website (the bottom middle pic) and it depicts her pretty accurately, albeit with some face filter.

    She's a hot skinny J-girl, early 20's with a pretty face. Nice natural Bs with nice nipples and a tight ass. Pussy was shaved with a very small patch of hair above the clit. Website says her height is 5'1 but I think she's probably a few inches taller than that. Not quite a spinner but pretty damn close. Outstanding GFE, just top tier service for a J-girl. It was like I couldn't get away from her for even a moment, she was clinging to me for the whole 45 minutes. Tons of DFK and LFK before, during and after the sex. Very cute, bubbly and friendly personality as well. She has some English and we didn't need to use a translator.

    She greeted me with LFK at the door and helped me undress. We skipped the shower (always my preference when I'm buying less than an hour) and we made out for a good 5 minutes before we moved over to the bed. Laid down on the bed where she climbed on top of me and grinded on my dick while we made out some more. From there she P2P'd the ever living shit out of my dick in CG and RCG. I almost busted my nut right there and had to ask her to slow down. Suffice to say her P2P game was very good, and at one point I thought she might just slip me in raw, but it didn't go quite that far haha.

    Went to 69 next and we stayed there for a while. She gives very good head and her pussy got pretty wet in 69. Gave me a quick BBBJ after 69 before she put the 001 on me and sat on my cock without any lube. Fucked her in CG before we moved into mish where I finished in the bag. Pussy was tight, she was wrapped around me and wouldn't stop kissing me while we were fucking. She let me stay inside her for a few minutes after I busted and we made out some more.

    She cleaned me up very thoroughly afterwards and even somewhat sensually haha. Gently wipped the sweat off my face with a tissue while I laid there totally spent and she cleaned my dick as well. We hit the shower then came back to the room and said an affectionate goodbye. If what Kieko told me is accurate, she will be in NYC until March 21st. I let her know that she hasn't seen the last of me. I would repeat. Damage was $280 for 45 minutes. A good price for a quality J-girl with excellent service.

  6. #9431

    Kelly at City Place Spa

    I figured that I would probably miss Arie this go around, since she's only working part time. And so it was, but she will be back next week, per MMS. Instead, I spent an hour with Kelly, their newest lineup addition.

    The usual MMS met me as I got off the elevator and showed me in. After she gave me the lineup of the day, I told her I'd try the new girl (Kelly) and so told me Kelly would be right in.

    Kelly is a late 20's K-girl, about 5-2 or 5-3, slender and petite, B cups, cute girl. Pictures of her on their twitter obviously hide her face but otherwise are accurate. English was moderate, she was really sweet and a little demure at first (not surprising since she's new and fairly young). She got more comfortable and animated as the session went along.

    After the shower, I let her give me the massage first, and it was pretty good. Nothing too fancy, hit the right spots with as much pressure as she could reasonably muster. I enjoyed it anyway, as well as the chance to relax for a bit. This was followed by CBJ and CFS, her on top briefly, but with her tightness we were both more comfortable in missionary. I started slow and worked deeper and more intense as we went along and I think she liked that, as she got more hot and heavy the longer we went on. Some LFK – I didn't push for more. Clean up after was standard alcohol and hot towels. House pay is 80 here, and the tip was 160. GFE is available here for an extra 40 with some girls (Lexi and Luna among others). I didn't ask about it this time, as I was more interested in the intense CFS, and I got what I wanted.

  7. #9430
    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    Or fakes. JP diff story; they are more accurate.
    In general, but at least 4 jp girls at wsd and 10 ten were girls I seen at other places that were kind of meh that I saw already and I had no idea it was them by the pics.

    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    Based on the description, Selina NYC can only take poundings for one shot; imagine 5 ben one hit KO LOL. They think we are checking fast foods.
    LOL, this is the only thing that makes me want to see her. I want to tear that pussy up for a good 30 minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    I did not find Ding Ding and now NYCSE Emily attractive at all. Pics and Tiktok were all fake beyond recognition vs real life. It was like seeing an ugly fatter cousin in person.

    $400 is ridiculous.
    I do think the tik tok is her. She looks cuter on tik tok but that face with the bitchy princess look is her. What you don't get from the tik toks is that her body is not good. I thought the same thing with Yuriko although Yuriko has a much better face.

    I wanted to do her just because I saw her on tik tok but even that she would be that great.

    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    Thats more justified cas 45 minutes can also push out MSOG if the girl is hot and knows her game well. Besides, most of the pics these agencies use nowadays on Chinese is almost 90% P.S. Or fakes. JP diff story; they are more accurate. And raws for 45 mins at 400 and extra ben is worthy, but if they are greedy af and charges 2-3 bens, deal is off LOL.
    If a Japanese girl ever says 200 for BBFS counter with 100. If she says no just say ok, condom them. They almost always come back with 150 or sometimes take 100.

  8. #9429
    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    The more fake pics they post, the riskier our wallet can be on chancing these imposters. Selina NYC only offers 1 pop per 5 ben max which is a flat downer for majority of us MSOG fans. Don't think she chops dynamite for that 5 ben hour man. Even 3 ben hhr prob is too much esp for those that can't pop within hhr without decent GFE vibes.
    This is agreed with, which is why I couldn't risk the hhr with her. I almost can never pop within 30 minutes, I've done a couple of hhr sessions and it always went into OT by about 15 minutes. I'm a 45 min minimum with really good GFE, my sessions typically run 50 minutes up to the bell. Even with Harper with how excited I was it took me 50 minutes to pop and that's even with me Jack rabbiting.

    I'm still waiting for any reviews of her to pop up but I've seen nothing yet. Thank god I'm using my big brain instead of little brain LOL.

  9. #9428

    Food chain

    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    This is also what it says about her "Selina can only have sex once an hour. " So no MSOG.

    As far as girls in the $500 range and plus it is dependent on salary. I can sit here and honestly say the most expensive girl I've had that I really wanted to repeat were between 320 and 400. All the girls I've seen 3 x in one week fall in this range. I see the hot Euro girls at $600/800 and etc and I don't give and F. I see some Asians at that price and I don't give an F.

    To some degree, I just don't think anyone is worth more than $500 an hour to fuck and the ones that are I do the 45 minutes like I said. But my definition of beauty is not these high priced euro hoes. I'd take the average hot young Korean woman in K-town over them.

    But then again there are people plenty happy with the 80 + 160 walk in places.

    Even if Hitomi came here offering it for 800 hr I wouldn't bother going. Price wise that is 2 sessions and I go 3 or 4 times a week. It is not that much to my wallet. It is just I don't think any pussy is worth that much. I am barely going to remember it a week later.
    In terms of market economy, IMHO any price tag over 3 ben should include msog cas VIP standards in reg shops offers 2-2. 2 ben for whole package with msog inclusive although not much GFE or not much kissing. Price for quality but most don't screen the standards LOL.

  10. #9427

    Supply

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    I did not find Ding Ding and now NYCSE Emily attractive at all. Pics and Tiktok were all fake beyond recognition vs real life. It was like seeing an ugly fatter cousin in person.

    $400 is ridiculous.
    The more fake pics they post, the riskier our wallet can be on chancing these imposters. Selina NYC only offers 1 pop per 5 ben max which is a flat downer for majority of us MSOG fans. Don't think she chops dynamite for that 5 ben hour man. Even 3 ben hhr prob is too much esp for those that can't pop within hhr without decent GFE vibes.

  11. #9426

    Details

    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    I usually find that 45 minutes at 400 is always best for the 500 an hours.

    P.S. Emily there is WSD Ding Ding.
    Based on the description, Selina NYC can only take poundings for one shot; imagine 5 ben one hit KO LOL. They think we are checking fast foods.

  12. #9425

    Pass on this girl.

    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    Thats more justified cas 45 minutes can also push out MSOG if the girl is hot and knows her game well. Besides, most of the pics these agencies use nowadays on Chinese is almost 90% P.S. Or fakes. JP diff story; they are more accurate. And raws for 45 mins at 400 and extra ben is worthy, but if they are greedy af and charges 2-3 bens, deal is off LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    I usually find that 45 minutes at 400 is always best for the 500 an hours.

    P.S. Emily there is WSD Ding Ding.
    I did not find Ding Ding and now NYCSE Emily attractive at all. Pics and Tiktok were all fake beyond recognition vs real life. It was like seeing an ugly fatter cousin in person.

    $400 is ridiculous.

  13. #9424

    Miu at PP

    I saw Miu on her first day. I don't think the face pics are her. She doesn't appear as cute. Looks to be late 20's. She's not bad looking but very average looking japense girl. Nice nipples.

    She appears a bit cold upon first meeting but she does warm up. . She does do DFK tho and its $100 for cip. She does cowgirl but doesn't do it for too long.

  14. #9423
    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    Thats more justified cas 45 minutes can also push out MSOG if the girl is hot and knows her game well. Besides, most of the pics these agencies use nowadays on Chinese is almost 90% P.S. Or fakes. JP diff story; they are more accurate. And raws for 45 mins at 400 and extra ben is worthy, but if they are greedy af and charges 2-3 bens, deal is off LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    This is also what it says about her "Selina can only have sex once an hour. " So no MSOG.

    As far as girls in the $500 range and plus it is dependent on salary. I can sit here and honestly say the most expensive girl I've had that I really wanted to repeat were between 320 and 400. All the girls I've seen 3 x in one week fall in this range. I see the hot Euro girls at $600/800 and etc and I don't give and F. I see some Asians at that price and I don't give an F.

    To some degree, I just don't think anyone is worth more than $500 an hour to fuck and the ones that are I do the 45 minutes like I said. But my definition of beauty is not these high priced euro hoes. I'd take the average hot young Korean woman in K-town over them.

    But then again there are people plenty happy with the 80 + 160 walk in places.

    Even if Hitomi came here offering it for 800 hr I wouldn't bother going. Price wise that is 2 sessions and I go 3 or 4 times a week. It is not that much to my wallet. It is just I don't think any pussy is worth that much. I am barely going to remember it a week later.
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    Agreed. 45 for $400 is the move, especially if you're only getting one pop. I miss when the rates for JAVs were $280 hh, $400 for 45 and $450 H. It made sense to just pay an extra $50 for the full hour then. Not at $500 H though. At that point just buy the 45 minutes and save $100. Plus if the girl likes you, sometimes you can snag a few extra minutes. I've had a couple 45 minute sessions that ran closer to an hour but I still only paid the 45 minute rate.

    This is exactly why the expensive girls (the legit ones who aren't just overcharging) are so dangerous LOL. Pussy so good you'll get addicted to it. And once you've had a couple high dollar girls, the regular lineup girls just don't hit the same.

    LOL for $500 H she better be hot! I won't be the one to test that theory though. Let us know how she is!
    That was my biggest worry, on paper Selina looked very enticing but not having any information on her made it very unattractive. I almost went to try her but I couldn't justify it. At least with Harper there was information already, and I've been waiting to see her. I'd definitely pay Harpers price tag to see again as she fits my bill. Or any other Korean / Asian provider. I'm into the tall 5'6"-6' tall girls as I'm 6'1, 185 so I still tower over them. So if you guys have any recs shoot 'them my way! I'm just not much into the Jgirls yet. My type of Jgirls is more on the import model like girls.

  15. #9422

    Happy medium

    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    I usually find that 45 minutes at 400 is always best for the 500 an hours.

    P.S. Emily there is WSD Ding Ding.
    Thats more justified cas 45 minutes can also push out MSOG if the girl is hot and knows her game well. Besides, most of the pics these agencies use nowadays on Chinese is almost 90% P.S. Or fakes. JP diff story; they are more accurate. And raws for 45 mins at 400 and extra ben is worthy, but if they are greedy af and charges 2-3 bens, deal is off LOL.

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