Escort Reports

[FarRockQueens]

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...oklyn/89394204

Went to see her for a hh. Donation was 150. She was hosting at a hotel near Broadway Junction. I got to the spot and she gave me the floor to go to but she tells me to wait a minute. She is finishing eating. And while I am waiting on her floor I see 5 women exit a room. She then tells me room number and it turns out the room where the women exited was her room. Once I get into room I say I am going to use the bathroom. She tells me don't but I open the door before she can finish and see two women inside the bathroom. They were the two other providers from ad. Alexa tells me they are her friends and offers a doubles with either no extra charge but I pass. The women leave bathroom so I can use it. And when I exit bathroom they both went back into it. Usually I would have left once I see someone hiding in a bathroom but Alexa explained that they are all using the same room to save money. I gave it a shot. And went straight into session. It was a great experience. She had no issue doing BJ or switching positions. She didn't rush. I busted and as I was leaving she said I can come back and see her or her friends any time. While it was a great experience I wouldn't repeat. Their group of 3 seems like a double booking risk. If they are all sharing same room.

This is bonus info that I realized post session but it is very likely those 5 women that left the room were also providers. I recognized two of them from the ads below. Which would make it even wilder if they all were sharing the same room that night I saw them.

I've seen Rebecca one time and she stinks bad bad her vagina smelt like shit and she wanted me to hit that raw smh I declined and I wouldn't repeat with her.

[AbuSaho]

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...oklyn/89394204

Went to see her for a hh. Donation was 150. She was hosting at a hotel near Broadway Junction. I got to the spot and she gave me the floor to go to but she tells me to wait a minute. She is finishing eating. And while I am waiting on her floor I see 5 women exit a room. She then tells me room number and it turns out the room where the women exited was her room. Once I get into room I say I am going to use the bathroom. She tells me don't but I open the door before she can finish and see two women inside the bathroom. They were the two other providers from ad. Alexa tells me they are her friends and offers a doubles with either no extra charge but I pass. The women leave bathroom so I can use it. And when I exit bathroom they both went back into it. Usually I would have left once I see someone hiding in a bathroom but Alexa explained that they are all using the same room to save money. I gave it a shot. And went straight into session. It was a great experience. She had no issue doing BJ or switching positions. She didn't rush. I busted and as I was leaving she said I can come back and see her or her friends any time. While it was a great experience I wouldn't repeat. Their group of 3 seems like a double booking risk. If they are all sharing same room.

This is bonus info that I realized post session but it is very likely those 5 women that left the room were also providers. I recognized two of them from the ads below. Which would make it even wilder if they all were sharing the same room that night I saw them. It is kinda funny in a way they are complete opposites. The first of the two providers I recognized ad says BJ is 40 extra so if it isn't the same provider that other poster referenced I guess that could be a trend to look out for. The second openly mentions she offers BBFS in her ads.

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[AbuSaho]

Getting my money back after paying for a service and being denied it after payment is not robbery. You sound like captain save a hoe like these broads don't do us 10 x worse. She had a horrible attitude and acknowledged that her ad was misleading. If you paid a retailer for a pair of shoes and a hat and only got the shoes and they refused to give your money back you would chargeback with your bank as well. But sure go ahead and make me seem like some scumbag and the only reason for hoes charging upfront. Get a grip.

I'm not being a captain save a hoe. I'm trying to be neutral and unbiased. That there are situations where a monger might do a messed up thing to a provider. Maybe that isnt supposed to be done on this forum. To look at both sides. I was just thinking Imagine you did this with cash. You gave the donation you busted and at the end went and got the donation and left. Because it is cashapp she doesn't see you face to face when you get your money back but you don't see anything wrong with that? Or the risks you put yourself in? I dont think you can compare this hobby to buying a pair of shoes. The retailer isnt asking if you are a cop when you enter the store. You cant get arrested for buying shoes at a retailer either. Maybe I shouldn't have put the robbery label on it and just said it was messed up. That I wouldnt do that to a provider. And just take the L of the 100-200 since I know I can make the money back. It isnt life altering money what I spend on these women to want to fight for it back.

I'm not expecting anyone else to chime in and say anything negative about what you did. Since maybe we arent supposed to do that. No one did that with the AMP situation either. He got cheered for pushing the mama-san. She hit her head on a table and was bleeding. But there are situations where one bad experience can screw over the people that come after. And what you did was one of those situations.

[TrueSilentStar]

So you robbed the chick by doing a charge back on your donation? WTF. This is why it is the standard for mongers have to pay the cash upfront before anything starts due to stuff like that.

There was a poster in another section that went to an AMP got the service and paid at the end. Their rate was $300 but he gave $80 and walked out pushing the mama-san to the floor as she argued with him on the way out. These bad experiences the providers deal with probably leads to the poor service or no lists that mongers that come after have to face.

Getting my money back after paying for a service and being denied it after payment is not robbery. You sound like captain save a hoe like these broads don't do us 10 x worse. She had a horrible attitude and acknowledged that her ad was misleading. If you paid a retailer for a pair of shoes and a hat and only got the shoes and they refused to give your money back you would chargeback with your bank as well. But sure go ahead and make me seem like some scumbag and the only reason for hoes charging upfront. Get a grip.

[AbuSaho]

Its probably more complicated than that.

Theres some providers that have a no tolerance policy for a reason, whether theyve had a bad experience with people who ask for those extras due to 'don't take no for an answer' attitudes, to bad experiences with poor hygene on the monger's part. If theyve caught something before than theyre probably not going to trust people who want that type or service since theyre asking for risky behavior right off the bat.

Bottom line tho, if its the first time contacting them they don't kknow you, so just come correct. Also, if you're asking for explicit services through txt that's also kind of a red flag because that's what cops be doing as a form of entrapment. Theres really no risk for them in blocking a number because theres always going to be another customer. Mongers are everywhere and its really their call who they want to see or not. Do t act like your 60 or 100 bucks are hard to come by.

Yea. Mongers are everywhere and depending on their rates they only need like 3-15 regulars and they are set for their bills / expenses. There are providers that just openly cut out age groups and races from the pool they will see. I have seen no one under 30 from older providers. And no one over 35 from younger providers as a couple of age group restrictions.

What has worked for me is seeing a provider 1-2 times and then asking for extras. They are often more willing to negotiate lower rates as well in my experiences. I think it is due to after I see them they have a better idea what to expect and feel more comfortable with a regular that is repeating than a new client who they have no idea what to expect. So they often drop many from their no list just to see me again.

[AbuSaho]

This has also been one of my last straws. I had a chick not even mention it in the ad and showed up for an outcall at a hotel I was staying at for business. Then after I paid her and put the rubber on she tells me she doesn't suck dick and if I wanted that I had to pay an extra 50. It pissed me off but I already had a resolution in mind. Since I paid her already I pounded the fuck out of her and got my nut then the next morning I disputed the whole payment with my bank (used cashapp) and got the money back LOL. Didn't care if my Cashapp got suspended either but they didn't. The chick was blowing my burner up threatening me LOL.

She took her ad down immediately after and I deleted that burner so I can't track down an ad to post and let everyone know to stay clear but yes that is a new thing they are doing. I'm so fed up with the way these broads are slaughtering the hobby.

So you robbed the chick by doing a charge back on your donation? WTF. This is why it is the standard for mongers have to pay the cash upfront before anything starts due to stuff like that.

There was a poster in another section that went to an AMP got the service and paid at the end. Their rate was $300 but he gave $80 and walked out pushing the mama-san to the floor as she argued with him on the way out. These bad experiences the providers deal with probably leads to the poor service or no lists that mongers that come after have to face.

[TrueSilentStar]

I've noticed that a few providers have started to not include a basic BJ with service apparently that's extra now too.

This has also been one of my last straws. I had a chick not even mention it in the ad and showed up for an outcall at a hotel I was staying at for business. Then after I paid her and put the rubber on she tells me she doesn't suck dick and if I wanted that I had to pay an extra 50. It pissed me off but I already had a resolution in mind. Since I paid her already I pounded the fuck out of her and got my nut then the next morning I disputed the whole payment with my bank (used cashapp) and got the money back LOL. Didn't care if my Cashapp got suspended either but they didn't. The chick was blowing my burner up threatening me LOL.

She took her ad down immediately after and I deleted that burner so I can't track down an ad to post and let everyone know to stay clear but yes that is a new thing they are doing. I'm so fed up with the way these broads are slaughtering the hobby.

[Member #6508]

Mongers are everywhere and its really their call who they want to see or not. Do t act like your 60 or 100 bucks are hard to come by.

The economy ain't that good right now, plus a common complaint with these chicks is that they have to go through a long list of time wasters, no shows, and "window shoppers" in the business. So yeah, sometimes that money is hard to come by. But I get your point.

[Hedon39]

The ones that are blocking people just for asking extras, raw, GFE. It makes no sense from a business standpoint. If you in this to make money, blocking someone is stupid. A simple no will be just fine. A lot of guys will just say, ok cool let me pay for a regular session, in which case you're still making money, as apposed to blocking someone like an idiot where you just lost a client. The ones that block guys for asking are serious, but from years of experience. Most of them that say no to these extras don't really mean no, what they're really saying is "I don't think you can afford my price". If you can prove them wrong, they will do these extras.

Its probably more complicated than that.

Theres some providers that have a no tolerance policy for a reason, whether theyve had a bad experience with people who ask for those extras due to 'don't take no for an answer' attitudes, to bad experiences with poor hygene on the monger's part. If theyve caught something before than theyre probably not going to trust people who want that type or service since theyre asking for risky behavior right off the bat.

Bottom line tho, if its the first time contacting them they don't kknow you, so just come correct. Also, if you're asking for explicit services through txt that's also kind of a red flag because that's what cops be doing as a form of entrapment. Theres really no risk for them in blocking a number because theres always going to be another customer. Mongers are everywhere and its really their call who they want to see or not. Do t act like your 60 or 100 bucks are hard to come by.

[DoitLive990]

I've noticed that a few providers have started to not include a basic BJ with service apparently that's extra now too.

[Member #6508]

Its to the point where these hoes are blocking and taking offense for even asking if they provide extras. Theyre out of their damn minds. And what's up with some of them having standard incall rates and tripling those same rates for outcalls? And STILL demanding ubers be paid for. Seems like they are trying to lure mongers to go to their locations. I always stay clear of those kind of providers.

The ones that are blocking people just for asking extras, raw, GFE. It makes no sense from a business standpoint. If you in this to make money, blocking someone is stupid. A simple no will be just fine. A lot of guys will just say, ok cool let me pay for a regular session, in which case you're still making money, as apposed to blocking someone like an idiot where you just lost a client. The ones that block guys for asking are serious, but from years of experience. Most of them that say no to these extras don't really mean no, what they're really saying is "I don't think you can afford my price". If you can prove them wrong, they will do these extras.

[AbuSaho]

Would I would say is wait until someone TOFTT and see if he writes a review, if its good and than you good, if you see no reviews, don't take that chance, if she is top provider, she will have a social media, website and link to her review page as she knows she is a business and a business will have reviews so she can still get more business herself.

The issue with that is less people are posting on these forums let alone TOFTT and putting their money on the line these days. It is a bit of a site wide issue for this forum not picking on Brooklyn section. So lets say an area such as Brooklyn has 400 providers making ads across the various escort sites and social media on a given day. Maybe about 50 have reviews. The reviews on this site are helpful but they often only scratch the surface.

There are times I see providers come out of retirement or just looking for second opinions to stuff and when I search this forum I see the only mention of a providers existence was a review I made a couple years ago.

Another issue we dont discuss is how many old reviews are useless either because the site the ad was on got shutdown (Cityxguide, backpage, craigslist personals, Switter, etc). Or the provider themselves deleted the ad for various reasons. Two of them being they retired from this career or they have bad reviews so they deleted ad and just use a different number.

[StevenMike]

Would I would say is wait until someone TOFTT and see if he writes a review, if its good and than you good, if you see no reviews, don't take that chance, if she is top provider, she will have a social media, website and link to her review page as she knows she is a business and a business will have reviews so she can still get more business herself.

Yeah it's like if you say one thing they'll block you yo these new women got to get off this earth or in a coma fuck these new dumb hoes.

[FarRockQueens]

Its to the point where these hoes are blocking and taking offense for even asking if they provide extras. Theyre out of their damn minds. And what's up with some of them having standard incall rates and tripling those same rates for outcalls? And STILL demanding ubers be paid for. Seems like they are trying to lure mongers to go to their locations. I always stay clear of those kind of providers.

Yeah it's like if you say one thing they'll block you yo these new women got to get off this earth or in a coma fuck these new dumb hoes.

[AbuSaho]

I think the root of the problem right now is that anyone who's attractive and will give you a good session is on Tryst or Private Delights with rates of $500/ hour and up (and mostly up). But check reviews before pulling the trigger because there are some bad ones there too. STG and Listcrawler has a mix of fake / scam ads, ugly women and junkies who I don't want to see. And the few that are decent everything is extra to the point that you're paying for the high end Tryst girl by the time you get what you want in a less attractive package. Bedpage and the like are 90% AMPs and not much else. At this point I'm taking a break. I'm bored with the AMPs and unwilling to pay the rates that the women I'm interested in are charging. I'll just spend more time picking up women in bars or something.

Yea you pretty much summed up my experiences with the sites. I just don't know what happened other than COVID to kill off the supply of providers that charged between $70-200 on STG / listcrawler. It used to be like every week there were dozens of new women. Now when I lurk STG, Listcrawler, and Bedpage it be the same like 25 women over and over in each borough section.

Its to the point where these hoes are blocking and taking offense for even asking if they provide extras. Theyre out of their damn minds. And what's up with some of them having standard incall rates and tripling those same rates for outcalls? And STILL demanding ubers be paid for. Seems like they are trying to lure mongers to go to their locations. I always stay clear of those kind of providers.

My favorite is how many providers don't offer MSOG in the hour. Where they basically tell on themselves if you do a ss/hh they will rush.

Yea it is a different era these days with outcall. The escorts have to choose either the flat rate for outcall is lets say 50-100 higher than their incall. Or the outcall rate is same as incall but the compromise is client pays for their transportation only to them but not back home. I dont know how the escorts of this era got both the higher flat rate for outcall and clients having to pay transportation both ways. It makes no sense to make any form of contact once they leave your apt. Once they have the donation that excuse they have no money to pay for train/cab is gone. If it was the reverse and we are leaving their incall they dont care how we get home.