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[Its Secret]

A few days ago having a quick stop in Target near AC I saw a beautiful blonde MILF wearing white short shorts and a red crop top, I smiled and she smiled back. After a few passes in the aisles, I started a conversation with her, after about 15 minutes we started walking together picking up a few more items, we both exited the store and exchange numbers. After a few days she made contact and we had lunch, after lunch we had some fun. The cold weather is coming and we will have to wait until next year to see those bodies without so many clothes on.

Nice one bud, great cans.

[Gentleman007]

A few days ago having a quick stop in Target near AC I saw a beautiful blonde MILF wearing white short shorts and a red crop top, I smiled and she smiled back. After a few passes in the aisles, I started a conversation with her, after about 15 minutes we started walking together picking up a few more items, we both exited the store and exchange numbers. After a few days she made contact and we had lunch, after lunch we had some fun. The cold weather is coming and we will have to wait until next year to see those bodies without so many clothes on.

[Its Secret]

FYI.

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[SwaggyBruuuh]

Big Facts 100%.

Many of these have been mentioned before by myself and / or others. Way too many mongers have delusions about these girls. I don't know if that's due to ignorance or just wishing things were the way they wish they were to enhance their own experience. Anyway, I will list some truths that some will not like. That doesn't matter. This is what it is.

1) These girls Do NOT care about you.

They care about your money and what you can do for them. They do not give a shit about you. Let me repeat that. They do NOT give a shit about you. If you are under any impression that they actually care about you I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. You may have a good working relationship with a provider. She has a comfort level with you because you are a regular and you are not a nutcase. You may have worked out a nice low rate for yourself. She may act cool with you. But that isn't because she cares about you. It is because she is comfortable with you as you are an easy stress free call. Do not confuse her being comfortable with you to her caring about you. She does not care about you. She will never lend you money. She will not give you a freebie. She will not go to your funeral when you die. She sees you as a source of money and whatever else she can get from you. Make sure it's only money and at the lowest rate possible.

2) These girls are all addicts.

Some mongers like to think the girls they see are not addicts. You see a lot of "no signs of use" in reviews. That is a helpful point in a review. But it only means they are smart about hiding it and / or aren't totally ruled by it yet. These girls are having sex with you for money to support their habit. They are not doing it for extra money to pay bills or pay off student loans. They pull in more money a week than you do and you see they live like shit. They aren't banking that money away for retirement. It is being spent that same day on drugs.

3) She only does BBFS with me.

No, she does BBFS with many guys. She may tell you it's only you or you and one other guy. She is lying. It's with many guys. It may not be with every guy but it is with quite a bit. So don't think you are that special. Somebody probably hit her raw right before and after you that same day.

4) She is trying to get her life together.

No. She is very happy the way she is. She just wants you to think that so you feel bad for her and give her extra money and do things for her. She does not want the life you have. She would hate that. She wants the one she has. She may leave the state but she is picking up her same life elsewhere. She may "retire". That just means she either has a large group of favorite regulars to see or she hooked up with a dumb lonely rich guy. Nothing else about her has changed. When she says she is trying to get her life together she only means she wishes she wouldn't have to see so many different guys fucking her in the ass every day.

5) She is Independent.

There are some girls who are totally independent but it is much lower than you think. Most girls have a pimp, a handler or a boyfriend who is very aware of what they are doing and are involved in some way. It is not likely that your favorite you just saw goes back to her apartment where she lives by herself and has no man involved or living off of what she does. While we seem to feel better thinking the girl we just saw is a true independent the reality just doesn't back that up.

[Vaneser]

I agree it's 100% true

Many of these have been mentioned before by myself and / or others. Way too many mongers have delusions about these girls. I don't know if that's due to ignorance or just wishing things were the way they wish they were to enhance their own experience. Anyway, I will list some truths that some will not like. That doesn't matter. This is what it is.

1) These girls Do NOT care about you.

They care about your money and what you can do for them. They do not give a shit about you. Let me repeat that. They do NOT give a shit about you. If you are under any impression that they actually care about you I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. You may have a good working relationship with a provider. She has a comfort level with you because you are a regular and you are not a nutcase. You may have worked out a nice low rate for yourself. She may act cool with you. But that isn't because she cares about you. It is because she is comfortable with you as you are an easy stress free call. Do not confuse her being comfortable with you to her caring about you. She does not care about you. She will never lend you money. She will not give you a freebie. She will not go to your funeral when you die. She sees you as a source of money and whatever else she can get from you. Make sure it's only money and at the lowest rate possible.

2) These girls are all addicts.

Some mongers like to think the girls they see are not addicts. You see a lot of "no signs of use" in reviews. That is a helpful point in a review. But it only means they are smart about hiding it and / or aren't totally ruled by it yet. These girls are having sex with you for money to support their habit. They are not doing it for extra money to pay bills or pay off student loans. They pull in more money a week than you do and you see they live like shit. They aren't banking that money away for retirement. It is being spent that same day on drugs.

3) She only does BBFS with me.

No, she does BBFS with many guys. She may tell you it's only you or you and one other guy. She is lying. It's with many guys. It may not be with every guy but it is with quite a bit. So don't think you are that special. Somebody probably hit her raw right before and after you that same day.

4) She is trying to get her life together.

No. She is very happy the way she is. She just wants you to think that so you feel bad for her and give her extra money and do things for her. She does not want the life you have. She would hate that. She wants the one she has. She may leave the state but she is picking up her same life elsewhere. She may "retire". That just means she either has a large group of favorite regulars to see or she hooked up with a dumb lonely rich guy. Nothing else about her has changed. When she says she is trying to get her life together she only means she wishes she wouldn't have to see so many different guys fucking her in the ass every day.

5) She is Independent.

There are some girls who are totally independent but it is much lower than you think. Most girls have a pimp, a handler or a boyfriend who is very aware of what they are doing and are involved in some way. It is not likely that your favorite you just saw goes back to her apartment where she lives by herself and has no man involved or living off of what she does. While we seem to feel better thinking the girl we just saw is a true independent the reality just doesn't back that up.

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[TailGunner1]

Many of these have been mentioned before by myself and / or others. Way too many mongers have delusions about these girls. I don't know if that's due to ignorance or just wishing things were the way they wish they were to enhance their own experience. Anyway, I will list some truths that some will not like. That doesn't matter. This is what it is.

1) These girls Do NOT care about you.

They care about your money and what you can do for them. They do not give a shit about you. Let me repeat that. They do NOT give a shit about you. If you are under any impression that they actually care about you I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. You may have a good working relationship with a provider. She has a comfort level with you because you are a regular and you are not a nutcase. You may have worked out a nice low rate for yourself. She may act cool with you. But that isn't because she cares about you. It is because she is comfortable with you as you are an easy stress free call. Do not confuse her being comfortable with you to her caring about you. She does not care about you. She will never lend you money. She will not give you a freebie. She will not go to your funeral when you die. She sees you as a source of money and whatever else she can get from you. Make sure it's only money and at the lowest rate possible.

2) These girls are all addicts.

Some mongers like to think the girls they see are not addicts. You see a lot of "no signs of use" in reviews. That is a helpful point in a review. But it only means they are smart about hiding it and / or aren't totally ruled by it yet. These girls are having sex with you for money to support their habit. They are not doing it for extra money to pay bills or pay off student loans. They pull in more money a week than you do and you see they live like shit. They aren't banking that money away for retirement. It is being spent that same day on drugs.

3) She only does BBFS with me.

No, she does BBFS with many guys. She may tell you it's only you or you and one other guy. She is lying. It's with many guys. It may not be with every guy but it is with quite a bit. So don't think you are that special. Somebody probably hit her raw right before and after you that same day.

4) She is trying to get her life together.

No. She is very happy the way she is. She just wants you to think that so you feel bad for her and give her extra money and do things for her. She does not want the life you have. She would hate that. She wants the one she has. She may leave the state but she is picking up her same life elsewhere. She may "retire". That just means she either has a large group of favorite regulars to see or she hooked up with a dumb lonely rich guy. Nothing else about her has changed. When she says she is trying to get her life together she only means she wishes she wouldn't have to see so many different guys fucking her in the ass every day.

5) She is Independent.

There are some girls who are totally independent but it is much lower than you think. Most girls have a pimp, a handler or a boyfriend who is very aware of what they are doing and are involved in some way. It is not likely that your favorite you just saw goes back to her apartment where she lives by herself and has no man involved or living off of what she does. While we seem to feel better thinking the girl we just saw is a true independent the reality just doesn't back that up.

[LukeWarmWater3]

I hope you got a freebie or a deep discount for helping her pack. Did you at least kick her in the ass as she went out the door when you said goodbye?

You know the deal. No matter how tight you get with a provider where you are paying almost nothing to see them you know they could care less about you and are always trying to get something off you.

I didn't really care by then. The big thing to be learned from this is always remember to keep hands on the wheel and always stay firmly in your lane. The 3 FS apply find them fuck 'them forget them.

[TailGunner1]

I got wise to her games. For a while it was good. Then like I said it started to get boring. Like my ex wife! She decided to move out of state I helped her pack!

I hope you got a freebie or a deep discount for helping her pack. Did you at least kick her in the ass as she went out the door when you said goodbye?

You know the deal. No matter how tight you get with a provider where you are paying almost nothing to see them you know they could care less about you and are always trying to get something off you.

[LukeWarmWater3]

They try to pull that crap sometimes after you have them down to a low regular rate. When they pull the I am in a bind act I will pay the 200 if the call will be much longer. Look by now, as you said, the pussy is mostly boring at this point. The low rate is all that keeps us there. Sorry hon but you no longer get new pussy rates.

I got wise to her games. For a while it was good. Then like I said it started to get boring. Like my ex wife! She decided to move out of state I helped her pack!

[TailGunner1]

I had one a was seeing few years ago. Saw her quite a lot for her regular price which was quite reasonable at the time. 2 hours for 3 Bennies. Went in for a while. Then my money train rain down. Told her I couldn't see her as we were going. Her rpsonse was just to make it the room cost. Like $100 same time frame now. Saw her a number of times at that rate. Honestly in due time I was actually getting bored of her pussy! Then one time out the blue I get the "I'm in a bind can you help me out with lime $200" So I'm already ahead of the game with her. So I split the difference with her. Now I'm still seeing her for the same rates. Once a week or so. Then the numbers started going higher. By the time it was all done. By my figures I was still ahead by a ways. But whatever she left the state and I don't miss her one bit.

They try to pull that crap sometimes after you have them down to a low regular rate. When they pull the I am in a bind act I will pay the 200 if the call will be much longer. Look by now, as you said, the pussy is mostly boring at this point. The low rate is all that keeps us there. Sorry hon but you no longer get new pussy rates.

[LukeWarmWater3]

With this particular girl, she didn't have an expectation, like she had some super pussy. I would be offered a free session, which I would always accept to make sure it wasn't just BS lip service.

This person valued the client, a real natural.

I had one a was seeing few years ago. Saw her quite a lot for her regular price which was quite reasonable at the time. 2 hours for 3 Bennies. Went in for a while. Then my money train rain down. Told her I couldn't see her as we were going. Her rpsonse was just to make it the room cost. Like $100 same time frame now. Saw her a number of times at that rate. Honestly in due time I was actually getting bored of her pussy! Then one time out the blue I get the "I'm in a bind can you help me out with lime $200" So I'm already ahead of the game with her. So I split the difference with her. Now I'm still seeing her for the same rates. Once a week or so. Then the numbers started going higher. By the time it was all done. By my figures I was still ahead by a ways. But whatever she left the state and I don't miss her one bit.

[HoodedMark]

Why would you do any of that? My time is not free to them. They do not do anything free for us.

With this particular girl, she didn't have an expectation, like she had some super pussy. I would be offered a free session, which I would always accept to make sure it wasn't just BS lip service.

This person valued the client, a real natural.

[Its Secret]

I agree with mostly everything above. In all the years doing this shit, I can only think of one provider who I could trust enough that I was willing and comfortable enough to do extra things for: drive her somewhere, offer an advance if I knew she was in a spot. Ect. But this person was truly unique. Never once did this person ever ask for anything. Every other experience I had with getting involved with a girl turned out bad in the end. I learned my lesson years ago.

To be fair, she didn't have to ask because you were offering it. Advance a no-go in any circumstance.

I had one hit me up for buying pics this morning, saying she needs money to keep her room. I don't even reply.

[PhillyDiscreet]

I agree with mostly everything above. In all the years doing this shit, I can only think of one provider who I could trust enough that I was willing and comfortable enough to do extra things for: drive her somewhere, offer an advance if I knew she was in a spot. Ect. But this person was truly unique. Never once did this person ever ask for anything. Every other experience I had with getting involved with a girl turned out bad in the end. I learned my lesson years ago.

Why would you do any of that? My time is not free to them. They do not do anything free for us.

[HoodedMark]

Myself and others have probably posted these before but you can never hear good advice enough. These are things you should not do with these girls. You may think it's going to get you better mileage. It is not. It will get you shittier service. It will have the opposite effect of what you think. Remember, you think logically. These girls act on instinct and their only goal is to get money out of you, nothing more. Your goal should always be to get the best service at the lowest price.

1) Deposits. Never pre pay these girls. I don't care if they say they have to ask for one because of stuff guys do. WTF do you care what some other guys did to them? Who cares if guys flaked on them? They flake on guys all the time. You should not care about that. I don't care if you have sent deposits before and didn't have an issue. You just got lucky. You will be robbed soon enough. You see that all the time on here. Deposits may be the single most stupid and avoidable scam you can fall for in this hobby.

2) Do not pay more than they ask. Frankly you shouldn't be paying what they ask to begin with let alone pay more. To pay more than they ask is stupid. You will not get better service. If anything you will get worse service because they now see you as an easy mark. Why should they work hard to make sure you have fun and come back when you are just handing them money up front for nothing? They know your deal already and will take full advantage of you by doing as little as possible for the highest price they can get from you. Way too many guys are easy marks for them.

I had a new monger message me recently asking about some girl. I told him she is a good call but has a history of robbing guys who are stupid. His response was he was going to offer her more so she doesn't rob him. You can guess what my response was to him. I went a little easier since he hadn't seen a girl yet and just doesn't know. You just are not going to get better service or not get robbed or whatever by handing them more than they ask. If anything it has the opposite effect. I don't even give them tips. I don't give them extra if I go well over the time. My attitude is that I am a clean, safe and reliable call that is no stress for them. Do not have the I am a good guy attitude in this hobby. Do not fall for I will do a BBBJ for extra. No you will do it for the price we originally agreed on or you will never see me again. If you showed up right and she wants your business again she will do it when you say you don't do upsells. I usually get whatever I want from these girls and at a deep discount if I am a repeat customer. But I do NOTHING for them except be a clean, safe and reliable call. There is value in that for them. Realize that and stop acting like they are doing you a favor.

I don't care if you are 70 yrs old, 5 ft tall and weigh 400 lbs and have zero chance with women in regular life. These are not regular women. They have slept with many guys worse than you. Don't think you have to pay them more or do favors for them to get decent service. Just act normal and present yourself as best you can. That means groom downstairs, be freshly showered, well dressed and give the impression you will be back again if she treats you right. Remember, this hobby is the great equalizer. You get to sleep with women you can't always get in regular life.

Don't do these girls favors or run them on errands. Guys do this for three reasons.

One, they think it gets them better mileage. No it doesn't. I am the one seeing her for $80 for a full hour after you just drove her all around town to do her shopping and probably paid for her room. In that hr with her I got better mileage than you ever have. Let that sink it. You did all that for nothing. Again, she sees you do all this and knows she can drop down her game with you. I know this happens because girls tell me they have guys like that. Guys post here how they drive these girls all over.

Two, guys do this because they feel sorry for these girls. Do not listen to their stories. They do this so you feel bad for them and give them extra money or do stuff for them. They are happy with their lives and have everything they need. These girls are professional hustlers. Don't be stupid.

Third, some guys do stuff for these girls because they are lonely. I can't answer you on that but these really are not the types of girls you should consider for companionship outside of the call. Get a puppy or a kitten if you are lonely. You are just being used and having your bank account emptied for the pleasure of hanging around a drug addicted professional hustler who could care less about you. She has her man waiting for her at home or back in the room.

3) Oh an emergency came up I have to leave now but will make it up to you with a free call next time. So she does this to you 5 minutes into your hr call. Understand you are not getting a free call next time. Again, You are not getting a free call next time. In case you didn't hear me, you are not getting a free call next time. That is not how these girls operate. So if you can't manage to grab your money back and high tail it out of there you will be ghosted when you reach out to her again for that free makeup call.

But here is how I handle this situation. I don't expect to get that free call. I could post a negative review but usually all that does is get more guys to see her because most of your fellow mongers are idiots. Here is how I handle it. I reach out to her saying I want to see you again and I know a free makeup call is like an alien concept to you. But we got to make this right. I use two options here depending on my mood and both have worked every time. I know these girls always want money. So I may say to make this right how about an hr call for half the rate. They agree. Do it once more after that and you are squared away. However I usually make that new temporary rate the new norm for every hr call going forward. My other option I do is say we got to make this right. I will give you our usual rate but you got to dig up another girl for a double. They usually will find some non working friend of theirs who agrees and she probably throws the girl 20 or 40 bucks because she doesn't know better. So again, things are equal now. Of course see if you can grab that non working girls number and see her on the side at a deep discount.

There is nothing special about me. I am moderately good looking. I am not in great shape. I am not rich. But yet I get great calls almost all the time and rarely pay full rates, especially when repeating. Why? Because I know how to act around these girls. Showing up clean and trimmed and acting normal gets you in the door. After that, realizing your value in being that way leads to getting what you want, how you want it and when you want it going forward. It's really all about being firm, steady, normal and acting like a man. The point I am making is that me, and guys like me, are getting better service at a lower rate than these guys who treat these girls like they are royalty. They are not. When you treat them like they are you have already lost. They are drug addicts who need money to feed their habit. Nothing more, nothing less.

I agree with mostly everything above. In all the years doing this shit, I can only think of one provider who I could trust enough that I was willing and comfortable enough to do extra things for: drive her somewhere, offer an advance if I knew she was in a spot. Ect. But this person was truly unique. Never once did this person ever ask for anything. Every other experience I had with getting involved with a girl turned out bad in the end. I learned my lesson years ago.